2012 PITL Autocross @ Bramalea GO Station

[zzz3]

PITL – Push it to the Limit

This series is put on by the Mazda Sports Car Club. Events take place at the Bramalea Go Station in Brampton. It’s a small lot, and a ton of fun. Expect a very tight and technical course.
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/2012-autoslalom-auto-x-schedule-1150731/

anyone interested in running this year? its relatively cheap ($40~) and close by, compared to cayuga, and should be especially fun for regular mazda3s. i plan on doing a few events...

http://www.wiredmotorsports.com/pitl/index.html

http://i.imgur.com/BqCwu.jpg

[Default User]

Did you go to the Whitby Mazda Motorsports night?

If you didnt - You should have gone

[zzz3]

Did you go to the Whitby Mazda Motorsports night?

If you didnt - You should have gone

way too far, what did i miss? don't tell me it was a discount for registration :(

[Default User]

It was more of a Q&A session
They went over all the requirements for autoX and time attack, etc. The differences and blah blah blah. I zoned out after 20 mins LOL

It looked informative though

[09ms3]

i have gone out for an hour or so a couple times in past just to watch, looked like a blast

may give it a try this year though.

[Default User]

It's the simplest form of racing.

Basically you just gotta beat the time that the judges think you should be getting. Whoever wins with the faster time overall.

[yearoftherat]

Looking over the classifications, most of us would be in the B - Stock Class

"All normally-aspirated Front Wheel Drive cars and 4-cylinder All Wheel Drive cars. Only allowable modifications are listed below."

"Larger sway-bars permitted provided they were available as an option through the OEM manufacturer for that car (must be Dealer option)."

If I understand this, those members running eibachs will not be allowed to compete since they are not a dealer option.

[prime]

^ i'm guessing you'll probably be classified as B or C modified class if you don't have dealer provided swaybars.

Helmets
M2000 helmet minimum. No DOT helmets allowed.

I guess my helmet can't be used. That sucks. I was interested in trying since it's affordable and local.

[zzz3]

Looking over the classifications, most of us would be in the B - Stock Class

"All normally-aspirated Front Wheel Drive cars and 4-cylinder All Wheel Drive cars. Only allowable modifications are listed below."

"Larger sway-bars permitted provided they were available as an option through the OEM manufacturer for that car (must be Dealer option)."

If I understand this, those members running eibachs will not be allowed to compete since they are not a dealer option.

im hoping there is some discretion exercised when classifying us. i would hate to run in B modified (no induction allowed) against some stripped out b16.


^ i'm guessing you'll probably be classified as B or C modified class if you don't have dealer provided swaybars.

Helmets
M2000 helmet minimum. No DOT helmets allowed.

I guess my helmet can't be used. That sucks. I was interested in trying since it's affordable and local.

Minimum is a M2000 helmet for cars NOT equipped with a roll cage. For a car equipped with a cage the minimum is a SA2000. No DOT helmets allowed. (Shared loaner helmets are available).
http://www.wiredmotorsports.com/pitl/rules.html

[prime]

^ah true!

I might try this out after all.

[thanu31]

hmm interested

[mvr]

PITL was my main autocross series last year and I ended up taking class championship in B-stock.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxRY6yMhY7w


It's the simplest form of racing.

Basically you just gotta beat the time that the judges think you should be getting. Whoever wins with the faster time overall.

Well, you compete for the fastest time in your class. Fastest time overall is just to see how you did compared to all other competitors.


Looking over the classifications, most of us would be in the B - Stock Class

"All normally-aspirated Front Wheel Drive cars and 4-cylinder All Wheel Drive cars. Only allowable modifications are listed below."

"Larger sway-bars permitted provided they were available as an option through the OEM manufacturer for that car (must be Dealer option)."

If I understand this, those members running eibachs will not be allowed to compete since they are not a dealer option.

Eibachs will put you in B-mod. I'm usually around 2 seconds slower than the fastest time in B-mod but in the final event last year, I got within 0.1 seconds of the fastest guy in B-mod....and I was in B-stock. With a well tuned suspension, the mazda 3 can be competitive.


^ i'm guessing you'll probably be classified as B or C modified class if you don't have dealer provided swaybars.

Helmets
M2000 helmet minimum. No DOT helmets allowed.

I guess my helmet can't be used. That sucks. I was interested in trying since it's affordable and local.

There are loaner helmets available.

[zzz3]

any other advice/tips (i.e. fees, prep etc.)

thanks.

[mvr]

any other advice/tips (i.e. fees, prep etc.)

thanks.

Get there 20-30 mins before the registration ends so that you can have a chance to walk the course.

If you've never done autocross before, speak to the organizer before registration ends and they'll find an experienced member to pair you up with. Almost everyone will be willing to help so really you can ask anyone about any questions you have. Also you'll probably be confused about the course layout, take as many ride-alongs as you can...again most people will not mind especially if its the 1st or 2nd run since they're not going to put down good times anyways. When you take your first run, go slow....like half throttle slow to learn the course and to learn how to "read" the pylons, some pylons represent direction...they'll explain this to you in the drivers meeting. It also helps to get an experienced person in your car to tell you where to go since it will just look like a sea of pylons. The most challenging aspect of autocross for a beginner is learning how to "read" the pylons, once you learn how to do that you can showcase your skill. But if you dont take the time to learn the fundamentals, you'll end up missing gates/going offcourse and look like a n00b.

Last year, the entry fee included lunch, I'm not sure if they're doing that this year.

For prep, you just need a street worthy car. No leaks, enough brake pad material, no cords showing on the tires. I set my tire pressures at 40 front, 50 rear (Max PSI) to induce oversteer.

You are required to do marshall duty (picking up pylons, calling in knocked over pylons/offcourse cars) on average 2 times per event. They will schedule you and give you instruction on how to do it. If you've never done it before they'll pair you up with an experienced member.

If you need someone to show you around, just look for me in the white mazda 3.

[prime]

@mvr thanks for the tips/advice. Appreciate it.
@thanu let me know if you go and I'll try to attend the same event :P

[zzz3]

Schedules up!

All dates are currently OFFICIAL as of March 16

Bramalea GO Station in Brampton

Changed to Saturday April 14th (Open House at Formula Kartways, 1:00-3:00pm)


Saturday May 5
Saturday May 26
Saturday June 16
Saturday July 14
Saturday Aug 11
Saturday Sept 8
Saturday Sept 22
Saturday Oct 13


Series scored best 6 of 8 events

http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=24554

[zzz3]

PITL 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgD7ZufWOrU

[mvr]

So who's going to the 1st event on May 5th?

I'll be there with my white mazda 3

[thanu31]

@thanu let me know if you go and I'll try to attend the same event :P


hey, i will be going May5th if Zzz3 is going too..il keep you posted

[zzz3]

I will be there. Just trying to get my 48k service and tranny/power steering flush done before then.

[thanu31]

Cool, i got my car all ready for the track 2 days ago :)

[sjd]

I'll be there.

[zzz3]

Saturday, May 5th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 8am
-$40 is total cost (for 5~ runs if i am not mistaken)

1. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
2. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan
3. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
4. sjd - NC yellow miata

[thanu31]

8am ??? :(

@prime, you coming out?


(would be great if tagging existed here too)

[zzz3]

8am ??? :(

@prime, you coming out?


(would be great if tagging existed here too)

well if we get there early i figure we can take a walk around course and ask sjd/mvr for a ride along (since its my first time). it's like the first day of high school lol!

[zzz3]

8am ??? :(

@prime, you coming out?


(would be great if tagging existed here too)

well if we get there early i figure we can take a walk around course and ask sjd/mvr for a ride along (since its my first time). it's like the first day of high school lol!

[Fack_Dude]

well if we get there early i figure we can take a walk around course and ask sjd/mvr for a ride along (since its my first time). it's like the first day of high school lol!

Dont worry bro. You will hit every cone on the course and get frustrated and call it the day.

[mvr]

-$40 is total cost (for 5~ runs if i am not mistaken)



Usually we get 6. And if we have time then we have fun runs at the end of the day.

[mounir]

Dont worry bro. You will hit every cone on the course and get frustrated and call it the day.


:chuckle

maybe i'll come out and watch zzz3 fail epically.

[zzz3]

Dont worry bro. You will hit every cone on the course and get frustrated and call it the day.

Lol why don't you come then? You'll probably be too busy making moar power (or masterbating on the dyno) and promising young boys ride alongs (where is mine??).

No point in making all that power if you can't use it beyond the occasional stretch of empty road.

[mvr]

Looks like we have a couple of call outs here. We'll see who can put their money where their mouth is ;)

You better not get a worse time than me though, I have a broken right foot. If you get beat, you got beat by a left foot driver.

[sjd]

well if we get there early i figure we can take a walk around course and ask sjd/mvr for a ride along (since its my first time). it's like the first day of high school lol!

Absolutely. Just keep in mind my car is a little different than a 3. :D I can ride along with you as well, I started in autocrossing almost 10 years ago with a stock Protege5 so I can offer some pointers.


Looks like we have a couple of call outs here. We'll see who can put their money where their mouth is ;)

Agreed. Autocross is one of the hardest motorsports to do well at so it's tougher than it looks.

[zzz3]

:chuckle

maybe i'll come out and watch zzz3 fail epically.

You drive pretty fast in parking lots (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?61445-MASIV-Monday-2012-Opener-Monday-April-2nd&p=918892&viewfull=1#post918892) ;), why don't you come? Just be sure to avoid the speed bumps.

[Kiyomi]

Lol why don't you come then? You'll probably be too busy making moar power (or masterbating on the dyno) and promising young boys ride alongs (where is mine??).

No point in making all that power if you can't use it beyond the occasional stretch of empty road.

lmfao!!!! if only i could make it this weekend... nxt time. :D

[BMWWW]

well if we get there early i figure we can take a walk around course and ask sjd/mvr for a ride along (since its my first time). it's like the first day of high school lol!

Don't worry about 'scheduling' ride alongs.

Just pick up a helmet and go to the front of the line and ask. Easy peasy.

[sjd]

Don't worry about 'scheduling' ride alongs.

Just pick up a helmet and go to the front of the line and ask. Easy peasy.

Agreed. You'll find everybody is very friendly and helpful. So ride along as much as you can with different people since I can probably only offer 1 ride along as my 11 year old comes with me and being a passenger is his favourite part. :)

[zzz3]

Don't worry about 'scheduling' ride alongs.

Just pick up a helmet and go to the front of the line and ask. Easy peasy.


Agreed. You'll find everybody is very friendly and helpful. So ride along as much as you can with different people since I can probably only offer 1 ride along as my 11 year old comes with me and being a passenger is his favourite part. :)

awesome. hope to see you guys there saturday morning.

[09ms3]

looks like I will be able to make it out there as well

this will be my first time as well, so zzz3 you wont be the only rookie

[MarkWB]

I might show up to one of these...never done autocross before but I've always wanted to try and 40 bucks is hardly an expense.

Maybe I can convince my friend who drives a Volvo S80 to come...lmao...my guess is if he shows his car will look like a bulldozer sliding down a hill of pylons.

[zzz3]

Saturday, May 5th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 8am
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs

1. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
2. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan
3. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
4. sjd - NC yellow miata
5. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3


looks like I will be able to make it out there as well

this will be my first time as well, so zzz3 you wont be the only rookie

awesome! surprised more of your speedbros dont want to come...

[mvr]

I might show up to one of these...never done autocross before but I've always wanted to try and 40 bucks is hardly an expense.

Maybe I can convince my friend who drives a Volvo S80 to come...lmao...my guess is if he shows his car will look like a bulldozer sliding down a hill of pylons.

Ive seen a couple of people in pickup trucks run, volvo isnt that big ;)

[09ms3]

yeah I am really looking forward to this

since I cannot make it to most meets due to lwork looking forward to meeting some of you guys

[mvr]

Cant wait for the first event! Coming with my brother. I'll be the crippled kid....you'll know when you see me :chuckle

[thanu31]

Sorry guys I have to bail :(

Family things ugh -_-

[Fack_Dude]

Lol why don't you come then? You'll probably be too busy making moar power (or masterbating on the dyno) and promising young boys ride alongs (where is mine??).

No point in making all that power if you can't use it beyond the occasional stretch of empty road.

Ive auto crossed before and Im one of those guys who hits pylons all over the track...lol I would go but going big turbo makes the car slow in the low rpm range... :(

[Kiyomi]

Ive auto crossed before and Im one of those guys who hits pylons all over the track...lol I would go but going big turbo makes the car slow in the low rpm range... :(

would be jokes to c it. you hit boost in and out on corners, ur car is just gonna start eating those pylons for lunch every time it lurches from hitting the power band. :D

joking aside, i doubt it would be that bad?

[zzz3]

Ive auto crossed before and Im one of those guys who hits pylons all over the track...lol I would go but going big turbo makes the car slow in the low rpm range... :(

Bring loki's or Phil's car then lol.

[zzz3]

im off to bed, see you guys tomorrow!


Sorry guys I have to bail :(

Family things ugh -_-

Saturday, May 5th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 8am
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs

1. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
2.
3. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
4. sjd - NC yellow miata
5. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3

[09ms3]

well this was my first attempt at autocross. it was an absolute blast (other then the sunburn I got)... overall I would say I did decent for my first time out. great to meet some fellow TM3'ers... even took zzz3 out in one of my runs.

to anybody that is considering this... do it... does not matter what you bring for a car... there was such a diversity of cars.

[zzz3]

well this was my first attempt at autocross. it was an absolute blast (other then the sunburn I got)... overall I would say I did decent for my first time out. great to meet some fellow TM3'ers... even took zzz3 out in one of my runs.

to anybody that is considering this... do it... does not matter what you bring for a car... there was such a diversity of cars.

+1

And mvr really opened my eyes (broken foot and all) as to how capable the mazda3 is with a nice set of tires and brakes. now i want to sell my intake/exhaust/swaybar for some pads and star specs lol...


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9zfp-xVCZpM/T6WiSox87gI/AAAAAAAABws/fhdbbA2VuGE/s800/IMG_0176.JPG

OM NOM NOM PYLONZ!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4-EBlKubEm0/T6WjJrvReFI/AAAAAAAABxM/6ixsHW6PpyI/s800/IMG_0182.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uStE8JEwqfE/T6Wi5ktbExI/AAAAAAAABxE/q-hLkjBb5ZA/s800/IMG_0183.JPG

Ran into a fellow RFD'r
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zx2DEDMcT3o/T6WjnX06R4I/AAAAAAAAByk/sF64IMwRyyg/s800/IMG_0187.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TmhgkJ2NeXk/T6WkGZ9BerI/AAAAAAAAByc/uR1KdmCqNqc/s800/IMG_0191.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MaKycIFRCNU/T6WiUiJ1VxI/AAAAAAAABw0/MfSBpwkE5M8/s800/IMG_0175.JPG

[mvr]

Had loads of fun! Rode along with zzz3 a couple of times and you could see improvements after every run. Towards the end, zzz3 got to open up that car and have some fun after figuring out the course.

Despite having a broken right ankle and a broken toe on my left foot, I managed to take home 1st for the TM3 team ;)

I took some footage for you guys to show how much fun it can be. I was running a stock mazda 3 (besides having a MS3 rear sway bar) and Dunlop StarSpec tires.

Next event is May 26. All competitors get to test drive the new Scion FRS on the autocross course and beat the hell out of it!


http://youtu.be/ng89olybD5E

[zzz3]

09ms3 took second place in b stock plus!
;)

[mvr]

Some more pics...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/534793_935156347920_89905068_42683581_583407647_n. jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/548423_935156392830_89905068_42683583_931835471_n. jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/399128_935156422770_89905068_42683585_2061077058_n .jpg

[MarkWB]

I'm so coming to either the next one or the one to follow...this is awesome.

[sjd]

Great event and great weather. Sorry I, didn't get a chance to meet some of you guys plus I had to duck out early so I only did 4 runs.

[thanu31]

whens the next one you guys are going to?
really sad i missed out this one:(

[Soyabean]

I'll be in the next one too. This is for stock cars only no?

[zzz3]

whens the next one you guys are going to?
really sad i missed out this one:(


I'll be in the next one too. This is for stock cars only no?

May 26th is the next event. Try to come at 7am if possible since more people will be expected to attend this event with scion canada giving each participant a chance to test drive the fr-s. Heck even my brother and his friends will be there participating in nazi barges just so they can test drive the fr-s lol, aong with journalists/VIPs (that scion has invited).

As for classifications, you guys would be put into B modified due to springs and sway bars. Trust me it comes down to driver skill as mvr demonstrated (he is as
fast as a cayman, if not faster).

http://www.wiredmotorsports.com/pitl/classifications.html

[Kiyomi]

shall we start a list for the 26th?

[thanu31]

ahh was planning for track on 26th....hmmm

[Impressive]

Damn! I really want to hit up the 26th but the Bubba-Q is the next day so I'll be running all of my errands saturday most likely.

Do post pictures of the FR-S when you drive it...I'll be sure to post pics when I take one out for a spin myself soon :)

[zzz3]

shall we start a list for the 26th?

Saturday, May 26th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 7am~ (due to increase in participants)
-all participants will get an opportunity to test drive the scion fr-s through the course
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs and lunch (licks burger and drink)

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3.
4.
5.

[zzz3]

ahh was planning for track on 26th....hmmm


Damn! I really want to hit up the 26th but the Bubba-Q is the next day so I'll be running all of my errands saturday most likely.

Do post pictures of the FR-S when you drive it...I'll be sure to post pics when I take one out for a spin myself soon :)

Come on the 26th if you can. You wot get another opportunity to test drive the fr-s like this again.

[MarkWB]

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4.
5.

[Impressive]

Come on the 26th if you can. You wot get another opportunity to test drive the fr-s like this again.

I'll do my best pending work - do we get to drive it through the AutoX course?!? that'd be sweeeeet!!

I'm actually privileged enough to know that I'll be able to get my hands on one for a test drive (maybe even for a weekend) once they hit, but I'm unfortunately not going to know whether it's a automatic or manual vehicle, or even what colour it is until I get it. Either way, I'd love to do at least a couple of laps even in my own car (in the stock category of course :chuckle)

[Impressive]

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5.

[zzz3]

I'll do my best pending work - do we get to drive it through the AutoX course?!? that'd be sweeeeet!!

I'm actually privileged enough to know that I'll be able to get my hands on one for a test drive (maybe even for a weekend) once they hit, but I'm unfortunately not going to know whether it's a automatic or manual vehicle, or even what colour it is until I get it. Either way, I'd love to do at least a couple of laps even in my own car (in the stock category of course :chuckle)

Yes around the course.

You are lucky to get the car for a weekend, but for the rest of us, the on and off ramp will likely be the threshold limit as to how much we are allowed to push the fr-s in a normal test drive, not withstanding taking time off to go to a dealership, dealing with salesperson and lastly the availability of cars for test drives (I imagine it will be difficult and scarce).

[Impressive]

Yes around the course. You are lucky to get the car for a weekend, but for the rest of us, the on and off ramp maybe the threshold limit as to much we can push the fr-s in a normal test drive.

The weekend thing is a big IF, but regardless of how long I get the car for, I'll definitely be pushing it hard without a doubt. I'll post some videos and picture when the time comes :)

[MarkWB]

I like this FRS idea a lot...it's like getting a free test run in a different car on the course before you do your actual runs...such a great idea.

[mvr]

May 26th is not a day to be missed! I'm definitely going since I'm going to be in the market for one in 2-3 years (hopefully they finish their Turbo/SC version by then). I've never really driving a RWD car ...(except the 458 Italia ;))... so it should be interesting.

Just got another video from last Saturday here:


http://youtu.be/IG0H0Vk8Zuc

[zzz3]

May 26th is not a day to be missed! I'm definitely going since I'm going to be in the market for one in 2-3 years (hopefully they finish their Turbo/SC version by then). I've never really driving a RWD car ...(except the 458 Italia ;))... so it should be interesting.

Just got another video from last Saturday here:


http://youtu.be/IG0H0Vk8Zuc

haha louis sent me mine too; difference between L33t and n00b :D

http://youtu.be/A2iOVPmotkU?hd=1

[Impressive]

^Judging by your video, your car is automatic and you weren't using tiptronic to hold gears during your run

Video looks like a ton of fun! I have a hard time keeping track of the course you're running, but maybe that's just due to the side camera angle.

[zzz3]

^Judging by your video, your car is automatic and you weren't using tiptronic to hold gears during your run

Video looks like a ton of fun! I have a hard time keeping track of the course you're running, but maybe that's just due to the side camera angle.

i bet you didnt know mvr is automatic too (a lot of the guys there were automatic, including the fastest ones time wise). and yes i was in triptronic, but the layout of the course makes it impossible to hit anything beyond 2nd lol. i myself was too busy with both hands on the wheel trying to navigate the sea of pylons, while trying to look ahead, to keep shifting down to 1st.

also i don't have a transmission cooler like the 1st gens and the 2010 MK1's; wanted to keep shifting to a minimum not to mention that my atf fluid is over due for flush. just waiting on alphamotorsport to deliver my B&M cooler to jimmy this week, hopefully...

[Impressive]

i bet you didnt know mvr is automatic too (a lot of the guys there were automatic, including the fast ones). and yes i was in triptronic, but the layout of the course makes it impossible to hit anything beyond 2nd lol. i myself was too busy with both hands on the wheel trying to navigate the sea of pylons, while trying to look ahead, to keep shifting down to 1st.

I guess on such a tight course, especially when you're inexperienced at AutoX it may even be advantageous to drive automatic since I guarantee you my first few runs would be a disaster going full out without a couple practice runs (I've never done AutoX myself btw). Judging by the sounds mvr's tires were making, it looks like I'll be needing both hands in order to avoid trashing the course :chuckle

[zzz3]

I guess on such a tight course, especially when you're inexperienced at AutoX it may even be advantageous to drive automatic since I guarantee you my first few runs would be a disaster going full out without a couple practice runs (I've never done AutoX myself btw). Judging by the sounds mvr's tires were making, it looks like I'll be needing both hands in order to avoid trashing the course :chuckle

he's on star specs, that noise is a sign of more tire grip than chassis lol!

[mvr]

I wasnt exactly smooth either since I was still getting used to driving with 2 feet. That and I have some camber issues on the right side making the tires roll over and screech more than they should.

[Peter]

as 5min before posting this my car is going into paint the next day so hopefully all my parts also come in on time and i may just make it :)

also hows the track im watcin ang getting lost lol

[rzapata]

haha louis sent me mine too; difference between L33t and n00b :D

Pretty good driving there man! :thumbsup

[Peter]

provideing car is ready

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter -Gen 2 speed 3 - 50/50

[Soyabean]

Sigh cant make it on the 26th as Im going to a wedding that day. When does this event run until?

[mvr]

Sigh cant make it on the 26th as Im going to a wedding that day. When does this event run until?

Runs until fall.

But theres pretty much an autoX event any given weekday during the summer in the GTA. http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21

[mvr]

Runs until fall.

But theres pretty much an autoX event any given weekday during the summer in the GTA. http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21

I mean weekend...

[Soyabean]

I meant to say from 7am to what time in the afternoon?

[mvr]

I meant to say from 7am to what time in the afternoon?

Last year usually we finished around 3:30pm. I would predict that it would finish around 4:30 on the 26th due to the large number of people expected to be there.

[zzz3]

I meant to say from 7am to what time in the afternoon?

If you register after 9, you have to pay a late fee. If you come early and register, then you can finish earlier and head home in time for wedding (4pm~).

[Soyabean]

haha I cant make it then. I was hoping it wouldnt take that long but my gf is a bridesmaid so I have been voluntold to help out.

I join next next event lol

[MajesticBlueNTO]

zzz3 on the left - mvr on the right (http://youtubedoubler.com/42zc)

[breakfasteatre]

zzz3 on the left - mvr on the right (http://youtubedoubler.com/42zc)

that is awesome!

[BMWWW]

Going early and walking the course is always key to success that day. The course changes every time, and the PITL lot is small, so you'll rarely grab 3rd.

Courses are always a sea of cones, which makes the course-walk pretty vital.

[09ms3]

I will be there again

[zzz3]

I will be there again

Saturday, May 26th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 7am~ (due to increase in participants)
-all participants will get an opportunity to test drive the scion fr-s through the course
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs and lunch (licks burger and drink)

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3

[Kiyomi]

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan - 50/50 (work maybe...)

[thanu31]

fine... i guess flop tracking that day

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan - 50/50 (work maybe...)
8. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan

[zzz3]

Saturday, May 26th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 7am~ (due to increase in participants)
-all participants will get an opportunity to test drive the scion fr-s through the course
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs and lunch (licks burger and drink)

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan - 50/50 (work maybe...)
8. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan

[silverstarmazda]

awsome, ill be keeping an eye on this.

[zzz3]

awsome, ill be keeping an eye on this.

$40 is all you need. skip the next couple of ertefa meets and the gas money saved will cover this! trust me you'll enjoy this more, instead of just parking the car for an hour or two and walking around and looking at other cars, you get to drive it against others competitively and watch them do the same!

why do you think i stopped coming to ertefa ;)?

[thanu31]

lol.

[silverstarmazda]

lol ill start saving up lol, man...if only i had enough to buy loki's MS3 sway bar.... that would be awsome.... do we need helmets or anything like that? hopefully my tires can handle the turns lol.

[zzz3]

They have loaner helmets available at no charge.

[silverstarmazda]

awsome, i think ill make it. its gonna be a busy ass week for me then too....theres this, bubbuh-q, and my drive test....lets hiope my car doesnt brake down.. probably change the oil twice.... will there be a premeet?

[thanu31]

awsome, i think ill make it. its gonna be a busy ass week for me then too....theres this, bubbuh-q, and my drive test....lets hiope my car doesnt brake down.. probably change the oil twice.... will there be a premeet?

might be a better idea to do your drive test before you come ;)

[Booter22]

Saturday, May 26th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 7am~ (due to increase in participants)
-all participants will get an opportunity to test drive the scion fr-s through the course
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs and lunch (licks burger and drink)

too bad i work this weekend, even if i didnt do any runs, it would be cool to watch a bit and $40 with a licks lunch is awesome ( thats some good eats!)

[BMWWW]

$40 is all you need. skip the next couple of ertefa meets and the gas money saved will cover this! trust me you'll enjoy this more, instead of just parking the car for an hour or two and walking around and looking at other cars, you get to drive it against others competitively and watch them do the same!

why do you think i stopped coming to ertefa ;)?

+1
Here's a bonus: you will actually save THOUSANDS of dollars when you ride-along in a proper handling, STOCK car driven by someone experience and realize that money poured into the wrong platform can easily be beaten by starting with something smarter.

That, or at least learn to be intelligent in putting money where it matters most.

[Fack_Dude]

lol ill start saving up lol, man...if only i had enough to buy loki's MS3 sway bar.... that would be awsome.... do we need helmets or anything like that? hopefully my tires can handle the turns lol.

Hey bro.
i got a deal of a life time for you on a rear sway bar ms3. pm me if interested.

[zzz3]

+1
Here's a bonus: you will actually save THOUSANDS of dollars when you ride-along in a proper handling, STOCK car driven by someone experience and realize that money poured into the wrong platform can easily be beaten by starting with something smarter.

That, or at least learn to be intelligent in putting money where it matters most.

Funny you say that. After a few rides in mvr's relatively stock 3 and a stock is300 i pretty much made up mind on the spot to sell my coolstorybro-air-intake to complete my suspension and hopefully get some rs-2s. I'll sell the advans come fall for oem bbk and fsb lol.

[silverstarmazda]

is there anywhere we can put our stuff at? like...heavy crap in the trunk? or extra wheels? cuz im sure ill have to switch back to my stock wheel set up cuz the after market set up i have on now is all cut up from the fenders...

[zzz3]

is there anywhere we can put our stuff at? like...heavy crap in the trunk? or extra wheels? cuz im sure ill have to switch back to my stock wheel set up cuz the after market set up i have on now is all cut up from the fenders...

yes behind the area you park. you'll see people storing street tires, donuts, tools, chairs etc. there.

[silverstarmazda]

yes behind the area you park. you'll see people storing street tires, donuts, tools, chairs etc. there.

awsome, thats perfect then, ill be switching wheels probably. the good - kuhmo esta asx the bad - theyre cut up by the fenders on the outer edge... is this still okay to run on? cuz if not ill be switching over to my old setup michelin pilot exalto, theyre a bit small though....205/50/17

something like this...but some area's are worse... ill c if i can take my own pictures
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8655/5840940206b4b7cd6993b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/5840940206b4b7cd6993b.jpg/)

[zzz3]

You'll be fine.

[Fack_Dude]

awsome, thats perfect then, ill be switching wheels probably. the good - kuhmo esta asx the bad - theyre cut up by the fenders on the outer edge... is this still okay to run on? cuz if not ill be switching over to my old setup michelin pilot exalto, theyre a bit small though....205/50/17

something like this...but some area's are worse... ill c if i can take my own pictures
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8655/584094
0206b4b7cd6993b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/5840940
206b4b7cd6993b.jpg/)

Dude. I go through tires like crazy driving my shit box.

[silverstarmazda]

i also have a deep gash in one of them...ill c if i can take a picture tonite

[zzz3]

i also have a deep gash in one of them...ill c if i can take a picture tonite

Lol dont waste time taking that picture...seriously just stop worrying and come out.

[Fack_Dude]

Lol dont waste time taking that picture...seriously just stop worrying and come out.

Don't be scared. You can do it.....lol :bana2

[BMWWW]

Funny you say that. After a few rides in mvr's relatively stock 3 and a stock is300 i pretty much made up mind on the spot to sell my coolstorybro-air-intake to complete my suspension and hopefully get some rs-2s. I'll sell the advans come fall for oem bbk and fsb lol.

Ont thing to keep in mind, stock class only allows for shock changes iirc. Anything else bumps you up into another class, so to be competitive, one should really study the rule book before buying mods.

PS: RS3's/Star Specs or bust. (My vote is for Star Specs because of the ability to run confidently in the rain, at the risk of a bit of dry performance)

[Kiyomi]

really interested in going to this, im hoping i have a free schedule. :D

[silverstarmazda]

so heres a bad spot
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8224/img1462f.jpg

and heres the worse spot....

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2210/img1467q.jpg

[prime]

Re: 2012 PITL Autocross @ Bramlea GO Station
Saturday, May 26th @ Bramlea GO
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 7am~ (due to increase in participants)
-all participants will get an opportunity to test drive the scion fr-s through the course
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs and lunch (licks burger and drink)

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan - 50/50 (work maybe...)
8. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan
9. prime - gen1 black hatch

Edit: is there a premeet or are we all just meeting up there looking for a flock of 3's?

[zzz3]

Ont thing to keep in mind, stock class only allows for shock changes iirc. Anything else bumps you up into another class, so to be competitive, one should really study the rule book before buying mods.

PS: RS3's/Star Specs or bust. (My vote is for Star Specs because of the ability to run confidently in the rain, at the risk of a bit of dry performance)

to go back to b stock i would need to get rid of my racing beat lowering springs and rear sway bar. since im already in b mod, i figure i might as well as make modifications to the rest of my suspension (dampers, stiffer springs, camber arms, fsb); in for a penny in for a pound lol.

the rs-2 was just speculation, i will just stick to my old potenza s02's this year and get star spec z1s next year for cheap when the z2's come out.

[silverstarmazda]

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan - 50/50 (work maybe...)
8. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan
9. prime - gen1 black hatch
10.silverstarmazda - gen1 BALLER ASS silver hatch

[zzz3]

Edit: is there a premeet or are we all just meeting up there looking for a flock of 3's?

There is a Timmies off the 410 right on 1150 steeles ave and 3mins from the go station. We can meet there if you want. How does 7am~ sound?

[silverstarmazda]

is there anywhere else that may be closer to the east end? and anyone have theyre opinions on my tires....?

[zzz3]

is there anywhere else that may be closer to the east end? and anyone have theyre opinions on my tires....?

your tire is fine man...that's nothing. you guys can setup a east end meet if you want.

[silverstarmazda]

your tire is fine man...that's nothing. you guys can setup a east end meet if you want.

even the deep gash in the second picture? makes me feel a lot better that u said that lol thx

[zzz3]

even the deep gash in the second picture? makes me feel a lot better that u said that lol thx

i have a similar gash (from a staple) in the middle of my tire (potenza s02). since it doesn't have tread blocks, basically slicks with just a few sipes now that its worn down, it picks up everything when it heats up and gets sticky.

[SKYMP3]

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan - 50/50 (work maybe...)
8. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan
9. prime - gen1 black hatch
10.silverstarmazda - gen1 BALLER ASS silver hatch
11. SKYMP3 - Gen 1 Mazdaspeed3


Doesn't have to pre-register now, right? Just go early morning and do it on spot?

[zzz3]

Yeah come before 9am with $40 and that's it. Although this event will be super busy with a much higher turn out due to the opportunity being given for all participants to test drive the scion fr-s through the course. Try to come at 7am~.

[SKYMP3]

$40 is all you need. skip the next couple of ertefa meets and the gas money saved will cover this! trust me you'll enjoy this more, instead of just parking the car for an hour or two and walking around and looking at other cars, you get to drive it against others competitively and watch them do the same!

why do you think i stopped coming to ertefa ;)?

HAHA,

+ 100

People wonder why they don't see me at the meet, I smile and say you'll will see more more at the track instead or at Jimmy's.

[SKYMP3]

Yall participants to test drive the scion fr-s through the course. Try to come at 7am~.

LOL...poor FR-S gonna get a huge gang bang that day. haha

[zzz3]

LOL...poor FR-S gonna get a huge gang bang that day. haha

My friend learned how to drive stick yesterday just so he can hoon, and presumably beat the shit out of t fr-s through the course LOL :s.

Come early and get registered since the test drive order will follow order of registration and number assigned.

[SKYMP3]

My friend learned how to drive stick yesterday just so he can hoon, and presumably beat the shit out of t fr-s through the course LOL :s.

Come early and get registered since the test drive order will follow order of registration and number assigned.


It will be only 1st and 2nd gear at the course anyway. Unless he can't even start the car, then pls get out of of the car. lol

[MarkWB]

I might be bailing due to this new tire/rim/wheel issue. I gotta' figure out if I need to have my alignment done, if I do, then I likely won't be able to come, if not, I'm still on. For now it's 50/50.

[Fack_Dude]

I might be bailing due to this new tire/rim/wheel issue. I gotta' figure out if I need to have my alignment done, if I do, then I likely won't be able to come, if not, I'm still on. For now it's 50/50.

Learn how to drive and stop clipping curbs.

[MarkWB]

Learn how to drive and stop clipping curbs.

LOL, S#!& happens man.

[Fack_Dude]

Yeah come before 9am with $40 and that's it. Although this event will be super busy with a much higher turn out due to the opportunity being given for all participants to test drive the scion fr-s through the course. Try to come at 7am~.

Holy shit. You better off to pitch a tent in the parking lot and stay over night. lol

[mvr]

and anyone have theyre opinions on my tires....?

As long as you dont see the cords they're fine.

[mvr]

to go back to b stock i would need to get rid of my racing beat lowering springs and rear sway bar. since im already in b mod, i figure i might as well as make modifications to the rest of my suspension (dampers, stiffer springs, camber arms, fsb); in for a penny in for a pound lol.

the rs-2 was just speculation, i will just stick to my old potenza s02's this year and get star spec z1s next year for cheap when the z2's come out.

I would just hone your skills at autocross before pouring money into the car or detuning it. It took me 1 year before I got "good" at autocross, the hardest part is to learn how to read the cones and look a few gates ahead. I learned on crap tires too, and when I switched over to the starspecs in my 2nd year, I got about 2-3 seconds faster and was finally able to take 1st in my class.

Keep in mind that almost everyone placing 1st/2nd in their class have at least 2 years under their belt.

[silverstarmazda]

lol my car needs an alignment before it got lowered... now that its lowered im pretty sure i need it...but cant afford it lol. im still good to go though since the car doesnt veer off anywhere. wanna buy a new helmet though...

[mvr]

There is a Timmies off the 410 right on 1150 steeles ave and 3mins from the go station. We can meet there if you want. How does 7am~ sound?

I'll try to come early but not THAT early. I'm hoping to walk the course at LEAST once since it will probably take me forever to walk the course with crutches. I dont think the PITL guys get there until 730-8ish but you can always go early to secure your spot.

[Kiyomi]

I'll try to come early but not THAT early. I'm hoping to walk the course at LEAST once since it will probably take me forever to walk the course with crutches. I dont think the PITL guys get there until 730-8ish but you can always go early to secure your spot.

u remind me of valentino rossi. freaking needed help to get on his bike after his crash, and still placed high.

[mvr]

u remind me of valentino rossi. freaking needed help to get on his bike after his crash, and still placed high.

lol well I did crash my bike... http://youtu.be/oVGHBDbI3iw?t=6m6s

[silverstarmazda]

wait, do we have to wear helmets?

[mvr]

wait, do we have to wear helmets?

Yes but there are loaner helmets available.

[silverstarmazda]

loaner as in like one passes it down once theyre done theyre run or loan as in one per person for the entire day? would a motorcycle helmet work...?

[09ms3]

There is about 8 loaner helmets, they are for everybody to use. they also provide "shower caps" for people to wear under the helmets

and the helmet must be snell 2000 or newer, so most motorcycle helmets dont meet that

[silverstarmazda]

There is about 8 loaner helmets, they are for everybody to use. they also provide "shower caps" for people to wear under the helmets

and the helmet must be snell 2000 or newer, so most motorcycle helmets dont meet that

ah jeez.... thats kinda wat i was afraid of...

[zzz3]

I'll try to come early but not THAT early. I'm hoping to walk the course at LEAST once since it will probably take me forever to walk the course with crutches. I dont think the PITL guys get there until 730-8ish but you can always go early to secure your spot.

Damn are you still on crutches? And that video was way too suspenseful; was wondering the entire time when the accident was going to occur. Glad it wasn't anything too serious...

[prime]

I'll try to come early but not THAT early. I'm hoping to walk the course at LEAST once since it will probably take me forever to walk the course with crutches. I dont think the PITL guys get there until 730-8ish but you can always go early to secure your spot.

I can meet up at ~7am. Anyone else?

[silverstarmazda]

I can meet up at ~7am. Anyone else?

is anyone going from the east? if so, wanna meet up? dont kno how to get there other than the gps.. o.o

[zzz3]

I can meet up at ~7am. Anyone else?

east end or near bramalea go?

[silverstarmazda]

east end, like near scarborough, markham, etc

[zzz3]

if a mod could add this to the op. also noticed that i spelt 'bramlea' wrong in the title, should be bramalea lol.

south train platform lot. not the main bus terminal.
http://i.imgur.com/BqCwu.jpg

[mvr]

Damn are you still on crutches? And that video was way too suspenseful; was wondering the entire time when the accident was going to occur. Glad it wasn't anything too serious...

Yup still on crutches but i can kind of walk without them now... Just really slow. Was lucky i didnt hit the tree or crash on the other side of the road where there is a cliff.

[Kiyomi]

east end, like near scarborough, markham, etc

ill meet up, as long as u promise not to run into my bumper on the way there. :D

[thanu31]

ill meet up, as long as u promise not to run into my bumper on the way there. :D

LOL

[silverstarmazda]

ill meet up, as long as u promise not to run into my bumper on the way there. :D


sigh*i guess thats sticking isnt it LOL yeaa sure, pm me where u wanna meet up. and thanu are you going? since you live like 2 mins away from me we can meet up too. as long as both of u dont stop suddenly at a green light, we'll all be fine lol

[prime]

east end or near bramalea go?

I meant near bramalea GO. I'm picking up the car in Brampton.

[silverstarmazda]

to be honest, im kinda scared for some reason lol this will be my first time doing anything track oriented lol

[09ms3]

nothing to be scared of, last time was my first time as well as zzz3's

everybody there is great to talk to, walk the track and listen to some advice of some of the drivers and you will be fine... if possible get out in somebody elses car first to get a feel for it before you run... everybody runs their first few laps slow the first time out...

[silverstarmazda]

lol is there one free fun run?

[prime]

Learn gradually. Take it easy the first few runs. That's what I plan to do. It'll be my first autox event as well.
I'm expecting it to be confusing so first few runs would be trying to learn the course and get comfortable driving the car.

[silverstarmazda]

lol i hope i dont kill any cones...

[Fack_Dude]

to be honest, im kinda scared for some reason lol this will be my first time doing anything track oriented lol

If you blow the engine. You builds a race engine. lol

[breakfasteatre]

regular 3s blow engines on the regular at autocross. Ive seen like 9 or 10 blown 3 engines, maybe even 30

[Fack_Dude]

regular 3s blow engines on the regular at autocross. Ive seen like 9 or 10 blown 3 engines, maybe even 30

Oh faccccckkkkkk.

[zzz3]

regular 3s blow engines on the regular at autocross. Ive seen like 9 or 10 blown 3 engines, maybe even 30

Bro stop exaggerating. It's more like 4, maybe 9 tops. And besides its only the silver ones because the paint melts off and starts dripping over the exhaust manifold. Just keep an eye out for danger to manifold warning and you'll be fine.

[breakfasteatre]

Bro stop exaggerating. It's more like 4, maybe 9 tops. And besides its only the silver ones because the paint melts off and starts dripping over the exhaust manifold. Just keep an eye out for danger to manifold warning and you'll be fine.

dUDE! i saw with my own eyes, rivets ****ing popped out, smashed all the side glass, and the guy lost all of his floor boards. This happened to 7 regular mazda 3s with the 1.8 or the 2.3 l naturally aspirated engine. Port injection

[zzz3]

dUDE! i saw with my own eyes, rivets ****ing popped out, smashed all the side glass, and the guy lost all of his floor boards. This happened to 7 regular mazda 3s with the 1.8 or the 2.3 l naturally aspirated engine. Port injection

Well those pussies must of have been running nitro meth and pump gas. Serves them right.

I only use vp fuels.

[silverstarmazda]

Bro stop exaggerating. It's more like 4, maybe 9 tops. And besides its only the silver ones because the paint melts off and starts dripping over the exhaust manifold. Just keep an eye out for danger to manifold warning and you'll be fine.


lmao couldnt help but laugh at that lol.

[SKYMP3]

Watching some AutoX video, how the heck can we memorize the map of the course, by the time we get close to the cone, it's probably too late to turn...

[mvr]

Watching some AutoX video, how the heck can we memorize the map of the course, by the time we get close to the cone, it's probably too late to turn...

Walking the course in the beginning of the day and getting rides from other people help a lot. The rest comes from experience, mainly looking ahead, reading the cones, and "looking" a few gates ahead. Things go by much faster in video than in person, since the lens is wideangle, you cant see as far ahead in the videos.

Also PITL courses are much more technical than some other autocross courses. If you master PITL, anything else is a piece of cake.

[thanu31]

this event is going to be packed, so many people are going...+ 2 more cars joining me

[SKYMP3]

so who else in TM3 gonna be there this Sat?

[standsideways]

Watching some AutoX video, how the heck can we memorize the map of the course, by the time we get close to the cone, it's probably too late to turn...

Its ALOT easier once youre on the course.

Looks like a shti show on vid always lol

[SKYMP3]

What time does the event ends approx?

If you see me with the white MS3, come say hi. :P

[thanu31]

i heard around 4pm

[09ms3]

last time 4 was correct, however with the expected turn out this time... I am thinking much later

[SKYMP3]

From 8am registration to 4pm? That's my full shift of work. lol

[BMWWW]

Walking the course in the beginning of the day and getting rides from other people help a lot. The rest comes from experience, mainly looking ahead, reading the cones, and "looking" a few gates ahead. Things go by much faster in video than in person, since the lens is wideangle, you cant see as far ahead in the videos.

Also PITL courses are much more technical than some other autocross courses. If you master PITL, anything else is a piece of cake.

Yup, PITL has to work a lot of track into a smaller lot. Lower speed, quite a few levels harder than say TLMC/HADA with their larger lots.


Its ALOT easier once youre on the course.

Looks like a shti show on vid always lol

Still hard sometimes. It's never a piece of cake, so that's part of the challenge.


From 8am registration to 4pm? That's my full shift of work. lol
COUGH**stomachevirus**COUGH:cool

[SKYMP3]

COUGH**stomachevirus**COUGH:cool


I just mean 8-4, that's like if I was to work the full day in office, lol.
See you all tomorrow. Come say hi, but don't laugh if I knock off the cones, ;)

[zzz3]

I just mean 8-4, that's like if I was to work the full day in office, lol.
See you all tomorrow. Come say hi, but don't laugh if I knock off the cones, ;)

me, you (and thanu, aka stcman of rfd, if he wants too) have to troll qaz! i have an idea (with painters tape).

EDIT: got your pm, ill be the guy in the 2nd gen graphite hatch.

[zzz3]

2012 PITL Autocross
Saturday, May 26th @ Bramalea GO (South Lot - off Alfred Kuehne Blvd)
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 7:30am (due to increase in participants)
-all participants will get an opportunity to test drive the scion fr-s through the course
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs, loaner helmet and lunch (licks burger and drink)

registration form (you can fill it out and bring it to save time):
http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6095&d=1337007724

http://i.imgur.com/BqCwu.jpg

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan
8. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan
9. prime - gen1 black hatch
10. silverstarmazda - gen1 BALLER ASS silver hatch
11. SKYMP3 - gen 1 white speed3

[SKYMP3]

Cool, sounds like a plan.

I will bring my DSLR to catch some actions as well.

[zzz3]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aoQtTrima9E/T8AxFUtp7qI/AAAAAAAAB2A/tBPGXigypmo/s1000/pitl-2012-series-flyer-page-001.jpg

[silverstarmazda]

ill be heading there earrly to c how they set up the track. might as well learn it while theyre making it.

[zzz3]

i'll be at the timmies off 410/steeles (1150 steeles east) getting breakfast around 730 if anyone (<cough> prime <cough>) wants to meat up.

[silverstarmazda]

i want to be there by 7, is that a bit too early??

[zzz3]

7~ is pretty early, but make sure to ask for as low of a registration (car) number as possible.

[silverstarmazda]

7~ is pretty early, but make sure to ask for as low of a registration (car) number as possible.

so i can go first?? lol

[zzz3]

so i can go first?? lol

a lot of people are series registered (for the whole season), so they already have preassigned numbers. aim for the 20-30's.

[Azi]

dont forget to bring oil! or make sure your oil is full.

[thanu31]

ugh, going to bed now...hope i dont sleep in

[zzz3]

ugh, going to bed now...hope i dont sleep in

Morning bump. See you guys there (also don't forget its the SOUTH LOT; see map).


2012 PITL Autocross
Saturday, May 26th @ Bramalea GO (South Lot - off Alfred Kuehne Blvd)
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am, try to be there by 7:30am (due to increase in participants)
-all participants will get an opportunity to test drive the scion fr-s through the course
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs, loaner helmet and lunch (licks burger and drink)

registration form (you can fill it out and bring it to save time):
http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6095&d=1337007724

http://i.imgur.com/BqCwu.jpg

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. MarkWB - gen2 silver sedan
4. Impressive - gen1 black sedan - 50/50
5. Peter - gen2 blue speed3 - 50/50
6. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
7. Kiyomi - gen2 black sedan
8. thanu - gen1 cwp sedan
9. prime - gen1 black hatch
10. silverstarmazda - gen1 BALLER ASS silver hatch
11. SKYMP3 - gen 1 white speed3

[Booter22]

Take tons of pictures.. if you can :)

[09ms3]

Just got back... had a blast again.

good meeting some more TM3'ers even worked a marshal station with a few.

That Scion is a pretty fun little car too... only problem was they made us keep the traction control on.

[thanu31]

That Scion is a pretty fun little car too... only problem was they made us keep the traction control on.

lol yea, i had fun but it was tough.

and i couldnt take the 1hr gaps between laps.. :sad

[zzz3]

anyone have a bigger pic of my tape work...i know ss smoked took pics, wer dey at B?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lL8-yd3DymA/T8FaOcIZucI/AAAAAAAAB3E/d_RDSZNFHLQ/s800/IMG_0268.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-swRNJB53uUQ/T8FahEZJvlI/AAAAAAAAB3U/u8O-luXDHCg/s800/IMG_0270.JPG

[zzz3]

had a great time. beat all the speed3's except 09ms3 :P

of course, no one could touch mvr.

[Booostin]

Lmao @ the tape job. Hahahaha

[silverstarmazda]

lol came back home and took a shower IMMEDIATELY!! omg so nasty wen i got home...but the real problem was the sunburn.... omg....literally cooked red... curently slathered in aloe lool

so where do i go to look at the lap times?? so happy finally broke my 50 sec barrier... slower then everyone else, but didnt come last!

[09ms3]

go to their website for the times

wiredmotorsports.com/pitl

last time took a few days to post

[silverstarmazda]

heres some pictures i got:
justin taping up
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1051/img1505wr.jpg
im prepping
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/461/img1510m.jpg
OMG that y im not getting any faster...
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1815/img1509zx.jpg
swapping out to r-comp
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6281/img1512y.jpg
the hatch was open for downforce! lol
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2263/img1514x.jpg
keeping track
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9389/img1531sb.jpg
BBQ before bubba-q
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/5885/img1533ga.jpg

[zzz3]

Nice pics.

Thanks for sticking around to help me out. Hope to see you next time :)

[Azi]

nice to see so many 3's out.

[mvr]

Here is a vid of my personal FTD on the last run (42.337s).... Car was a little bit tail happy today, was trying to break into the 41's but it didnt happen. Had lots of fun though, great to see so many people out. Got some more but I'll upload them later, bed time!


http://youtu.be/WRTJ0LK1bfE

[thanu31]

today was my first time, gonna take a lot of practise to get used to it, but dont think im going to be seeing more autox in the future anyways.
To used to the fun on the track

here was my somewhat okay run
(47.1 sec)

http://youtu.be/Y82Tb9VqUXE

[sjd]

I wish I'd made it out but I had to work. Although knowing that you were forced to keep the DSC makes me feel better about not being able to make it out.


today was my first time, gonna take a lot of practise to get used to it, but dont think im going to be seeing more autox in the future anyways.
To used to the fun on the track


Everything on the track happens soooooo slowly. lol. I'm glad I had years of autox experience before going to the track since it really sharpens your reaction time and teaches you to be smooth with your inputs. You should try it on a larger lot before you give up on it.

[Fobio]

zuhair...you're jokes!

thanu: ditto what sjd says...autox is good homework for car control before going faster.

[1337trix]

good to see all the 3's out, its been quiet in the b classes the last couple years

[silverstarmazda]

good to see all the 3's out, its been quiet in the b classes the last couple years

matrix! were you the one behind me?? the silver mazda

[1337trix]

i think so, you might wanna watch when you close your trunk next time... i think a dude is stuck in there

[Azi]

today was my first time, gonna take a lot of practise to get used to it, but dont think im going to be seeing more autox in the future anyways.
To used to the fun on the track

here was my somewhat okay run
(47.1 sec)

http://youtu.be/Y82Tb9VqUXE

I hope you wernt expecting to be fast on your first time out. Autox is a great way to learn to be precise. You cant learn that stuff on the track.

[1337trix]

also running a 47 means you're a danger our there, heh :)

[thanu31]

I hope you wernt expecting to be fast on your first time out. Autox is a great way to learn to be precise. You cant learn that stuff on the track.

no no, lol i just got very frustrated, missing gates, and the long wait times...but i guess it was expected with Scion coming out

but I do agree you learn more from this

[silverstarmazda]

no no, lol i just got very frustrated, missing gates, and the long wait times...but i guess it was expected with Scion coming out

but I do agree you learn more from this

oh man yea the scions and that freaking lotus..... its bad enough that the gap was huge. but there was nowhere to stand or sit in the shade, expect alll the way back to the tent... the helmets were an issue too... i hope the next turn out wont be as hectic

[mvr]

oh man yea the scions and that freaking lotus..... its bad enough that the gap was huge. but there was nowhere to stand or sit in the shade, expect alll the way back to the tent... the helmets were an issue too... i hope the next turn out wont be as hectic

Usually there are 50-60 competitors, this time we had 100+. It helps to pass the time by getting rides in other peoples cars. Also a great way to learn what youre doing right and wrong.

[1337trix]

thats the first time i've ever been told to fix my parking - usually we take up 6-8 spots and have a tent and chairs out

you guys had to change tires in the paddock lane, that was ridiculous... i dont expect to ever see that many people out again... and if it becomes more common they might have to move to online registering



usually what happens is 80-100 cars show up to event 1, and then it slows down until the end of the year... in August its not crazy to get only 30 cars and be done 6 runs at noon, in the past they've actually done 2 events in 1 day

[loki]

nice taping work zzz3

:chuckle

[SKYMP3]

no no, lol i just got very frustrated, missing gates, and the long wait times...but i guess it was expected with Scion coming out


+ 1

Being the first time in AutoX, waited over 1 hr to every run won't help me to remember how the course goes, hence I missed the course so many time and even got demotivated at the end.

Imagine driving for less than 60 sec on the course, but have to wait over 60 minutes for every run is not fun.

Maybe the Host should limit the number of participants?


It was a good experience but also a fraustated day with the long wait time.


*Helmet is an issue, because both drivers and passengers needed the helmet. Good that I brought my own, so at least I don't have to wait on the line before my run. Anyone serious about motosports should invest a $130-$150 to buy a good SA2010 or + helmet.

[silverstarmazda]

im buying a helmet since i PASSED my G license test!! im getting one as a gift lol. im excited for the next autox meet. passengers were comming out one car and hopping the next one that was going...wtf, other people need the helmets, stop hogging them. slows everyone down wen we cant run cuz



i think so, you might wanna watch when you close your trunk next time... i think a dude is stuck in there

LOL yeaa about that, i like to be funny from time to time ahaha.u should c my co-driver, hes a chicken lol.

[Azi]

Here are my runs for the weekend.

PITL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jMTNmgYG-A

Picton:
For those of you who dont know, the regional series (CASC) had an event at Picton on their airfeild. 3 runways of awesome. It is the largest auto-x in ontario. This is an event you should plan on coming to if you like auto-x.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAVwJAn94_4

[1337trix]

^no video of your fastest run? i was gonna double it and see where you got me

[Azi]

I have that video, but the camera was inside pointed at me so I can see what I was doing with my hands.

[BMWWW]

+ 1

Being the first time in AutoX, waited over 1 hr to every run won't help me to remember how the course goes, hence I missed the course so many time and even got demotivated at the end.

Imagine driving for less than 60 sec on the course, but have to wait over 60 minutes for every run is not fun.

Maybe the Host should limit the number of participants?


It was a good experience but also a fraustated day with the long wait time.


*Helmet is an issue, because both drivers and passengers needed the helmet. Good that I brought my own, so at least I don't have to wait on the line before my run. Anyone serious about motosports should invest a $130-$150 to buy a good SA2010 or + helmet.

It is what it is. Beginners should always be lining up to get ride-alongs in other people's cars to help with memorizing the course, and seeing how much further you can push it, and where the many seconds can be found. I can relate to being overwhelmed and getting frustrated when first starting out, but look at it this way: the course changes every time, and everyone else has to relearn it every time. You'll find out why the veterans understand the course the more you go.

Tips:
- get there early, walk the course more than once--you'll eventually know what to look for and start making mental notes of when to brake/turn-in/be easy on gas
- have a friend sit shotgun and have them help with pointing the direction of the next gates
- some of the 'pros' can be damn-good navigators. What may take you a full day to improve a second or two can be accomplished in a single run with an experienced person riding shotgun. I know that from experience.

[SKYMP3]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/411117_10151781304595164_647388454_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/470549_10151781305420164_512755163_24498054_885777 090_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/477805_10151781306160164_512755163_24498057_682177 164_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/463156_10151781305740164_512755163_24498055_403895 81_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/470406_10151781307210164_512755163_24498064_208320 24_o.jpg

[Ziploc]

Nice to see other car communities come out! Was nice to meet you all. :)

Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5C1314934740BBD6

Mazda Miata #102 - PITL #2 2012 - Super Onboard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSwN7zrvzTg)

Honda Civic #8 - PITL #2 2012 - Dual Angle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEaBGghLciQ)

Scion FR-S #102 - PITL #2 2012 - Dual Angle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Sjrgsfpmc)

Acura Integra #1 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hui282mU5DI)

Mazda3 #26 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVyA2eb2k9A)

Hyundai Genesis #9 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRimH7jmGtE)

Porsche Cayman S #6 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to5MkuCB_-o)

Honda Civic #79 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKH5pm7Z8o)

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 #60 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfjnZvZAHyo)

Scion FR-S VIP Class - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcgUiTnF6ps) - Jim Kenzie

Mazdaspeed Miata #64 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lql7PrFaSW0)

Chevrolet Cobalt #30 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsfeCZaBKo)

Mazda Miata #29 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94FKH906bVY)

Mazda Miata #5 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LS1dahcPVY)

Subaru Impreza 2.5rs #190 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdxFHvwsqsU)

Subaru Impreza 2.5rs #98 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlnDMbF01pY)

Mazda Miata #10 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNeG4X1N4Vw)

Mazda Miata #5 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ66SXeRRYM)

Mazda Miata #77 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTXdTvk7IQ4)

Mazda Miata #66 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC_C0qkubxI)

Mazda3 #58 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2AvOXjwFlM)

Mazda3 #48 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT0JP8-mE-A)

Mazda Protege #37 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj6tqv2lsVg)

Lotus Evora #20 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBbw6TSZbA)

Mazdaspeed3 #24 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mp0XV4Alq8)

Audi S4 Avant #7 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abtsDMme-ss)

Honda Civic #8 - PITL #2 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udg1NhiSc20)

Mazda Miata #138 - PITL #2 2012 (http://youtu.be/Xsdee8CCdzU)

Mazda Miata #38 - PITL #2 2012 (http://youtu.be/OiYBCdz4qCE)

VW Jetta TDI #35 - PITL #2 2012 (http://youtu.be/bFJM82Ihwag)

[09ms3]

cool, thanks for all those links... now I know which gate I missed... was thinking it was that one.

[zzz3]

thanks for the links.

me vs mvr (below). 2.3 is noticeably faster than 2.0 as you can see him pulling away on the straights, not to mention he is a better driver :D.

http://youtubedoubler.com/4eoi

[mvr]

thanks for the links.

me vs mvr (below). 2.3 is noticeably faster than 2.0 as you can see him pulling away on the straights, not to mention he is a better driver :D.

http://youtubedoubler.com/4eoi

LOL @ the excessive AT downshifts.

Are you in B-stock now? We can switch cars for a run if you want to see how fast the 2.0 goes :P

[zzz3]

LOL @ the excessive AT downshifts.

Are you in B-stock now? We can switch cars for a run if you want to see how fast the 2.0 goes :P

b-mod, on koni/road magnet now. i thought you had a 2.3 hatch :S?

i wouldn't mind switching for a run (or two) to see how close you can get to azi or the top of b-mod. curious to see if my car is capable or not lol.

[mvr]

b-mod, on koni/road magnet now. i thought you had a 2.3 hatch :S?

i wouldn't mind switching for a run (or two) to see how close you can get to azi or the top of b-mod. curious to see if my car is capable or not lol.

If im far ahead enough of my competition, ill give up my last run to run in your car. I dont think they can score me if im in b stock using a b mod car. But you will probably be able to use my car to be scored in b mod.

[mvr]

b-mod, on koni/road magnet now. i thought you had a 2.3 hatch :S?

i wouldn't mind switching for a run (or two) to see how close you can get to azi or the top of b-mod. curious to see if my car is capable or not lol.

Oh and i do have a 2.3L. But on such a tight course it shoudlnt make that much of a difference.

[Azi]

there's nothing wrong with a 2.0L :P

[1337trix]

you guys all have me outgunned in my lowly 1.8

[zzz3]

you guys all have me outgunned in my lowly 1.8

2ZZ>MZR

[SKYMP3]

http://youtu.be/_pmwc3_ctDk

^ FR-S Run.....just uploaded.

[x tuh board]

wish i saw this when the event was on...lol..

[silverstarmazda]

10 more daays!!

[mvr]

Still need to get a helmet that fits my head, I was using a Small size helmet last time.... Dammit, why out of the 7 helmets I have, the only one that is Snell is too small for my head?? :(

[SKYMP3]

Still need to get a helmet that fits my head, I was using a Small size helmet last time.... Dammit, why out of the 7 helmets I have, the only one that is Snell is too small for my head?? :(

It sounds like you enjoy AutoX which is good, but why don't you get own own helmet?

[silverstarmazda]

i just got my own helmet and even had time to customize it lol. the charts online said i was a medium. WRONG! i ended up having to buy a XXL for my fat head lol.

[mvr]

Still need to get a helmet that fits my head, I was using a Small size helmet last time.... Dammit, why out of the 7 helmets I have, the only one that is Snell is too small for my head??


It sounds like you enjoy AutoX which is good, but why don't you get own own helmet?

I do have my own helmet... ;)

[SKYMP3]

I do have my own helmet... ;)

Oh..lol. I tho out the 7 loaners helmets there. Sorry...

[1337trix]

that was the first time since i started that they ever checked my helmet

i've done roughly 45 events altogether and its been checked 3 maybe 4 times

[SKYMP3]

that was the first time since i started that they ever checked my helmet

i've done roughly 45 events altogether and its been checked 3 maybe 4 times

They check your helmet before and put a sticker on my right side of the helmet, but do they really care if someone wear a not SA approved helmet at the gate just before the run? (they can't see the sticker! it's on my right side). Just a thought...

[silverstarmazda]

doesnt matter if its SA or MA. as long as its snell 2000+

[zzz3]

2012 PITL Autocross
Saturday, June 16th @ Bramalea GO (South Lot - off Alfred Kuehne Blvd, see green circle on map below)
-registration is from 7:30am to 9am
-$40 is total cost for 5+ runs, loaner helmet and lunch (licks burger and drink)

registration form (you can fill it out at home and bring it to save time):
http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6095&d=1337007724

http://i.imgur.com/BqCwu.jpg

1. mvr - gen1 cwp hatch
2. zzz3 - gen2 graphite hatch
3. 09ms3 - gen1 black speed3
4. silverstarmazda - gen1 silver hatch
5.

[silverstarmazda]

is the scion gonna be there again? here are pictures of my helmet

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8201/img1578zp.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6576/img1579uh.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9739/img1581z.jpg

[zzz3]

LOL, awesome sticker.

the scion wont be there, it was just a one time event. did you take it for a spin last time?

[silverstarmazda]

lol nope, im not too familiar with stick on a tight track course... oh well

[x tuh board]

is there a charger to watch?