Budds' Subaru & Budds' Mazda - Battle of the Clubs! - July 22nd [Archive]

Booter22

03-29-2012, 07:04 PM

this is the information posted on TSC - http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/forums/general-subaru-discussion/160863-budds-subaru-budds-mazda-battle-clubs-july.html

Hey everyone,

If you're from Oakville you may have noticed that the Budds' Family has recently acquired Budds' Mazda (formerly QEW Mazda). Andrew and I thought it would be a great idea to host a "Battle of the Clubs" to see the different types of cars and people from different communities.

This will be hosted by Budds' Subaru and Budds' Mazda with the help from our sponsors.. and YOU! Please come out and represent your club, I think the TSC community can provide a much larger turn out!

Updated:
-There will be an entry fee of $5.00 / car (this may change)
- Whichever club has the BIGGEST turn out we will donate all proceeds to a charity of the Club's choice on their behalf.
- Grand prize goes to the club with the most amount of vehicles.

This will be taking place at the Mazda store. I need to see how many people will be interested in showing up.

We will have prize draws, and BBQ with some giveaways.

TENTATIVE DATE IS JULY 22ND

THIS SHOW IS REPLACING THE CURRENT SHOW & SHINE HELD AT BUDDS' SUBARU

Thanks,
Robbie

But as andrew said please be patient as everything is resolved.

genericmoniker

03-30-2012, 01:06 AM

In for interest. Think that's the day before I go to Vegas. ;)

FoXy

03-30-2012, 09:20 AM

i'd be down with this

mounir

03-30-2012, 09:29 AM

Down.

thanu31

03-30-2012, 10:07 AM

So down. I think we can out number easily

FoXy

03-30-2012, 10:25 AM

So down. I think we can out number easily

I dont knowwww... tsc is pretty big... but it will be a good competition!

bryansbestwax

03-30-2012, 10:30 AM

Damn, just so happens I sponsor both, yea for me. I will be there to support the boys.
I was at the hyper meet last year, there was about 4000 vehicles i think, It was an endless sea of Subarus
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk246/bryansbestwax/hypermeet%202011/hypermeet2011062.jpg

That was before they even started

Booter22

03-30-2012, 10:37 AM

S.F.W.

03-30-2012, 11:41 AM

we have 64 + members going to the masiv meet, how many to be singed up for the AA meet, id be hard pressed to think we couldnt at least show up with 75 members between now and july ( date pending) shall we get a list going?

wow 400 eh... calling all TM3ER'S!

As I stated earlier, myself and the TM3 organization will not endorse this event, until we resolve the relationship between Budds Mazda and TM3. Why would TM3 members attend an event at a dealership, when upper management at that organization does not see value in TM3 ?

Zoom Zoom Boy

03-30-2012, 12:05 PM

As I stated earlier, myself and the TM3 organization will not endorse this event, until we resolve the relationship between Budds Mazda and TM3. Why would TM3 members attend an event at a dealership, when upper management at that organization does not see value in TM3 ?

Huge +1.

midnightfxgt

03-30-2012, 12:21 PM

Agreed!

Booter22

03-30-2012, 12:55 PM

Ogata

03-30-2012, 07:37 PM

Hard to say....since it says Toronto Subaru Club...its ALL Subarus no? Since we are only 3's, they might out number us.

aris

03-30-2012, 07:55 PM

-RJ3-

03-30-2012, 09:00 PM

It's a charity, I'm down!

Astig02

03-30-2012, 09:04 PM

It's a charity, I'm down!
+1

Default User

03-30-2012, 09:04 PM

MOM2012 should be on the same day and held at Budds (pendin resolution that is. Otherwise congrats to TSC LOL)

-RJ3-

03-30-2012, 09:06 PM

MOM2012 should be on the same day and held at Budds (pendin resolution that is. Otherwise congrats to TSC LOL)

It shouldn't be mom then lol moms

Darkice

03-30-2012, 10:01 PM

im so down for this ! should be good

SKYMP3

03-31-2012, 01:51 AM

I see the ads in TSC first then come here and see this. If Budds is not advertising here for themselves, there is no point to support their events.

Kiyomi

03-31-2012, 02:30 AM

I see the ads in TSC first then come here and see this. If Budds is not advertising here for themselves, there is no point to support their events.

+1

Razlin

03-31-2012, 02:55 AM

Hey guys! The Budd's group is one of the solid Dealership groups in the GTA. They throw a great event that is well organized and entertaining.

Myself and the Toronto Subaru Club have been attending an annual summer event put on by Budd's Subaru for the past 5 years IIRC.

Ah one of my old car in 2008
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x144/DarkRazlin/PHOTO%20SHOOTS/2008%20Budds%20TSC%20Meet/CopyofIMG_9623.jpg

We even had Mazdas come out for the Other best in show winner Mel's ride!
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x144/DarkRazlin/PHOTO%20SHOOTS/2008%20Budds%20TSC%20Meet/CopyofIMG_9773.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x144/DarkRazlin/PHOTO%20SHOOTS/2010%208%208%20Budds%20Subaru%20RMDH%20Charity/4875267151_e23353f7d3_b.jpg

Great trophies
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x144/DarkRazlin/PHOTO%20SHOOTS/2008%20Budds%20TSC%20Meet/CopyofIMG_9779.jpg

Other Tuner shops come out Advanced Power House, Next Mod, NV Auto etc
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x144/DarkRazlin/PHOTO%20SHOOTS/2010%208%208%20Budds%20Subaru%20RMDH%20Charity/dsc0384o.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x144/DarkRazlin/PHOTO%20SHOOTS/2008%20Budds%20TSC%20Meet/CopyofIMG_9608.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x144/DarkRazlin/PHOTO%20SHOOTS/2010%208%208%20Budds%20Subaru%20RMDH%20Charity/RazlinsprojectAurorabySpyder4.jpg

Razlin

03-31-2012, 03:08 AM

? odd i typed a post and its gone. Maybe moderated before posting i put some pics in it.

hamza7

03-31-2012, 07:12 AM

If we do end up going, I am definitely down but as someone mentioned they get to have a whole range of cars while we are limited a specific model. Subbed to see what we make out of this.

bryansbestwax

03-31-2012, 07:37 AM

we have 64 + members going to the masiv meet, how many to be singed up for the AA meet, id be hard pressed to think we couldnt at least show up with 75 members between now and july ( date pending) shall we get a list going?

wow 400 eh... calling all TM3ER'S!

Um, thousand, not hundred. They filled 2 massive parking lots plus overflowed all over the streets by subaru headquarters.

boyracer

03-31-2012, 07:56 AM

John & Andrew have both been great to deal with & have shown that they care about the TM3 community. It's upper management that is out of touch, looking at the numbers and for a quick fix instead of the big picture, which in the long run may bring in more revenue. I may still go there for service at this point I do not know. That being said, I'd have to stand behind Ami & TM3 and will not attend or support any of the Budds events until this issue gets resolved. I will say that I do feel more comfortable with an affiliate of TM3 where my complaints & praises can be addressed .

As stated by few other members, it was the method upper management chose to leave TM3. It's like coming home from work and finding your significant other has packed up their belongings and left with out any warning (for some this might be a good thing LOL). Just my 0.02 cents

-RJ3-

03-31-2012, 08:47 AM

Here my nickel on this

Andrew and John Has been good friends and for Andrew, he has asked me about the tsc meet hosted by budds. Outside of this business I'd be more than happy to help him out. It's not always about the representation of any club, it's about the support and cause that it shows. Note this was not a mazda3 event, it wasn't even posted here first. Think of it as a car show. Why do they go? Not because they support tm3, but for support to their friends who organize the event, or just as a hobby.

I will support this event because Andrew has helped me out in the past.

I've been to other non Mazda events, and it doesn't matter what car you drove you are welcomed

If budds doesn't honor their tm3 discount that is fine. I go to APH for my major services anyways

If you are here to support the club then don't go unless it's sorted out

If your going to support a friend like myself. Then go

It's not always about business its the loyalty and respect of someone that I do this

Hope this gets sorted out soon. The event would be a good one !

p-o-g-i

04-01-2012, 06:51 AM

I'm always interested in attending charity events! Hope this follows through.....

Kevin@nextmod

04-01-2012, 09:55 AM

To be honest, you guys have a bigger chance then the Subies. A few of you are getting confused with the Subaru Hyper meet and the Budds subaru meet. Last year the Budds meet was kinda slow with only about 50-60 cars that showed up and it didn't even fill up the whole Budds subaru dealership. The Hyper meet is a whole different thing. Its organized by TSC and its at the Subaru head office and that is the one that will have 300-400 subies show up.

-RJ3-

04-01-2012, 10:41 AM

spartan786

04-01-2012, 10:42 AM

I agree with this completely, will not be going to budds any more for anything. Maybe we should start a list, in which we can actually gage how many tm3 members would not go to budds anymore.
John & Andrew have both been great to deal with & have shown that they care about the TM3 community. It's upper management that is out of touch, looking at the numbers and for a quick fix instead of the big picture, which in the long run may bring in more revenue. I may still go there for service at this point I do not know. That being said, I'd have to stand behind Ami & TM3 and will not attend or support any of the Budds events until this issue gets resolved. I will say that I do feel more comfortable with an affiliate of TM3 where my complaints & praises can be addressed .

As stated by few other members, it was the method upper management chose to leave TM3. It's like coming home from work and finding your significant other has packed up their belongings and left with out any warning (for some this might be a good thing LOL). Just my 0.02 cents

-RJ3-

04-01-2012, 10:44 AM

I agree with this completely, will not be going to budds any more for anything. Maybe we should start a list, in which we can actually gage how many tm3 members would not go to budds anymore.

John and Andrew said they are sorting it out.... I would hold off on any list until we finally have a resolution or word from them.

This is beyond their control, and at least they are trying to take their time to do this.

Jackal

04-01-2012, 11:04 AM

John and Andrew said they are sorting it out.... I would hold off on any list until we finally have a resolution or word from them.

This is beyond their control, and at least they are trying to take their time to do this.

+1
Let's not get carried away with such a list. They need a chance to respond to the issues brought up on this website as other dealerships and sponsors have done.
From a business standpoint they really should respond officially in the very near future.
I googled "Budds Mazda Oakville" and the threads about Budds Mazda from TM3 came up on my iPhone on pages 2-4. It's all about a timely response in most cases. Don't drag this on Budds Mazda.

boyracer

04-01-2012, 11:22 AM

John and Andrew said they are sorting it out.... I would hold off on any list until we finally have a resolution or word from them.

This is beyond their control, and at least they are trying to take their time to do this.

I completely agree with -RJ3- that it would be premature to make any list at this point in time.

I do want to make this point clear. It was because of John & Andrew that I started going to (at that time QEW Mavda) Budds Mazda. If this issue does not get resolved, it will be because of Andrew & John that I would even consider going back. To be honest they are still my first choice at this time. As I stated before, it's just the way Budds upper management went about the whole thing with out making any announcements.

sudz

04-09-2012, 02:22 PM

Suprisingly, Terry Budd Responding to my facebook post in person. Kudo's for doing that. Too bad It was B.S Response. I replied, Not entirely knowing what I wanted to accomplish. I suppose I just wanted to let him know how I felt personally!

Personally, I'll support whatever dealerships support TM3. Sadly, that means leaving Budds Mazda behind. (I Used to call it QEW for nostalgia, However, QEW was awesome. Budds'... Not so much. RIP QEW Mazda!

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/sudz3/Capture2.jpg

sicsol

04-09-2012, 04:00 PM

Sign me up..

zzz3

04-09-2012, 07:44 PM

so how come they support tsc and not tm3? i am just curious? are we not good enough...

S.F.W.

04-09-2012, 08:12 PM

so how come they support tsc and not tm3? i am just curious? are we not good enough...
very good question. I guess Budds sees more value in the TSC community than TM3.
As budds is no longer a TM3 affiliate, I have no interest in going to an event they are hosting. Why should TM3 support Budds if Budds does not support TM3 ?

bluemazda3

04-09-2012, 11:54 PM

cwp_sedan

04-10-2012, 12:53 AM

very good question. I guess Budds sees more value in the TSC community than TM3.
As budds is no longer a TM3 affiliate, I have no interest in going to an event they are hosting. Why should TM3 support Budds if Budds does not support TM3 ?

I honestly couldn't have said it better myself.

This stand or feeling I have obviously has nothing to do with John, Andrew or any other member who has actually come on TM3 from the dealership. Everyone on that end has worked really hard to make sure every member was looked after.

The recent events have shown us though that Budd's (owner/s) didn't even take the time to see if this community was even worth it. This to me shows they are not worth my time in supporting any of their events.

If those individuals who really want Budd's to come on board want to make that happen, then they should give them their space also until they realize that we are a community to be valued and not just thrown aside. They will benefit more from having TM3 as a community, rather than not even though they don't realize it.

sharkbait

04-10-2012, 07:26 AM

As much as you all make valid points, I hope some of you keep your faith in Budds Mazda because of the quality of work the service, sales and parts department offers to not only TM3 but to everyone else. The atmosphere and freindly/welcoming environment that Budds offers is undoubtably excellent. John, Katie, Agetha, and Andrew from parts work really hard to make sure customers are looked after and more importantly they go above and beyond for you TM3 members. I don't think that just because of a discount drop that you guys should drop your business with them. Yes, you feel let down. But can you honestly tell me that you only went to (formally) QEW Mazda/ Budds Mazda just for the discount?

I hope some of you reconsider and really put whats most important to you first? Discounted service, or quality of service. You be the judge.

I myself, and as a customer there will stay with Budds Mazda. I trust them hands down with my car. They became my friends and I support there loyal and hard working service they offer.

aris

04-10-2012, 07:54 AM

I think most of the problem is how budd's went about doing it. I'm pretty sure that people would still go to budd's if they started a thread to inform everyone that their is no more discount. I mean just like that they stopped the discount.

.I myself, and as a customer there will stay with Budds Mazda. I trust them hands down with my car. They became my friends and I support there loyal and hard working service they offer.
You say this but truth be told your boyfriend is the assist Servise manger right? Of course you will still go back. The question is would you still go back if they canned your boyfriend? Probally not

sharkbait

04-10-2012, 07:57 AM

I think most of the problem is how budd's went about doing it. I'm pretty sure that people would still go to budd's if they started a thread to inform everyone that their is no more discount. I mean just like that they stop the discount.

You say this but truth be told your boyfriend is the assist Servise manger right? Of course you will still go back. The question is would you still go back if they canned your boyfriend? Probally not

The discount was taken away by upper management yet the service, sales and parts departments take the heat for it... If it were up to them they would probably continue to honor the discount. Honestly, I went there before he was my boyfriend. But I keep my personal life out of this forum and go by my own experiences as this is a CAR FORUM not a dating site.

For example. What if you didn't have a mazda 3... would it be fair to turn around and kick you off the forum because this is TORONTO MAZDA 3 and you dont have a mazda made vehicle? It's the same thing that goes here for the discount. And it's only 15%. It's not the end of the world. Not also to mention, not every dealership is on this forum is a supporter of TM3 yet tons of members still go to them and recommend their services based on their work, not discounted prices.

Anyways back on topic. If I am able to make it to this event to see some Subaru's. Should be interesting!

aris

04-10-2012, 08:04 AM

They dont have an obligation to tell anyone about stopping the discount. Honestly, I went there before he was my boyfriend. But I keep my personal life out of this forum and go by my own experiences as this is a CAR FORUM not a dating site.

Yes they do have to inform everyone. In their section on this fourm says the discounts that's avaible to everyone so yes they do have to inform all of us. Also no one said this is a dating site but your comment about still going back is cause of your personal relationship with your boyfriend. You guys posted your personal life on this fourm not me.

DualSoul

04-10-2012, 08:44 AM

The discount was taken away by upper management yet the service, sales and parts departments take the heat for it... If it were up to them they would probably continue to honor the discount. Honestly, I went there before he was my boyfriend. But I keep my personal life out of this forum and go by my own experiences as this is a CAR FORUM not a dating site.

I don't see the staff taking heat at all. Everyone posting has gone out of their way to point out that this does not reflect on John/Andrew/Katie etc.

-RJ3-

04-10-2012, 08:47 AM

Sorry guys, I'm all about charity and just to hang out with friends and family. I will be repping my team jh society in this event.

sharkbait

04-10-2012, 08:50 AM

Yes they do have to inform everyone. In their section on this fourm says the discounts that's avaible to everyone so yes they do have to inform all of us. Also no one said this is a dating site but your comment about still going back is cause of your personal relationship with your boyfriend. You guys posted your personal life on this fourm not me.

My only comment to this is "enough". Shit happens. It's a discount. It's not applicable anymore. Get over it. Not sure if you know but it effects me too! But im not crying about it. I'd be more upset if the they closed the dealership. Those techs are fabulous and they have my support. They've done all the work on my car and then some and I couldn't be more happy. Even when I didn't have a mazda, they worked on previous car.
I have had things with them that I wasn't happy about but like anything in life, you move on and look forward.
Do you even go to Budds for service, parts or sales? If not, why speak now? ;)

sharkbait

04-10-2012, 08:57 AM

I don't see the staff taking heat at all. Everyone posting has gone out of their way to point out that this does not reflect on John/Andrew/Katie etc.

They are taking the heat. They are losing your business as a fellow member and friend.

midnightfxgt

04-10-2012, 09:03 AM

I don't know the staff, but hear they are great. That being said, the management has treated the members poorly. This is a close knit club, and if you don't support the club, they wont support you. Some members will continue to use them, sure... they have great service, why not? The people who were very loyal and would go out of their way to support a sponsor may not. It's very obvious that these customers are not important to the dealership. TSC is valued enough to be supported, but not TM3?

Like I said before, I don't use the dealer for any service. I do almost everything myself. However, I know that I won't support their show at this point. I won't support a dealership that sees no value in this club.

Booter22

04-10-2012, 09:19 AM

ok guys, this is not the place for this conversation. please and thank you. there will be more details regarding the subaru and mazda meet. this is being held for charity and the winning club will have the proceeds go to the foundation of there choice.

if you so choose to come out and join in on the charity event please do so we would be very happy to have everyone come out and even though we may not have the same relationship as we had prior i know i would still like to have the bragging rights over subaru and TSC that TM3 came and out showed them.

i know some of you will and do feel slighted regaring what has happened with us as an affiliated dealership but if you have any concerns or questions please direct them to the proper people through the proper channels, as this is of course about the meet between clubs.

so please. :bot

DualSoul

04-10-2012, 09:22 AM

They are taking the heat. They are losing your business as a fellow member and friend.

That's not 'taking the heat'...

cwp_sedan

04-10-2012, 11:12 AM

My only comment to this is "enough". Shit happens. It's a discount. It's not applicable anymore. Get over it. Not sure if you know but it effects me too! But im not crying about it. I'd be more upset if the they closed the dealership. Those techs are fabulous and they have my support. They've done all the work on my car and then some and I couldn't be more happy. Even when I didn't have a mazda, they worked on previous car.
I have had things with them that I wasn't happy about but like anything in life, you move on and look forward.
Do you even go to Budds for service, parts or sales? If not, why speak now? ;)

Enough? This is the one topic as of late where everyone has a strong personal opinion regarding the topic and affects the club and are voicing that opinion. IMO it's nice to hear the different sides.

Ultimately, I don't think that the lack of discount was the problem here, yet you keep going back to it. The new management came in and didn't even consider the club. Members here are pretty loyal to Affiliate Dealerships and Sponsors so when one just snubs everybody it causes an issue. The fact that there was a lack of respect has left a bad taste in everyones mouth. Everyone has reiterated many times that it's not the individuals who the club have dealt with in the past but the new owner/s. This alone shows that all of this is on the owner/s, not the employees.

Basically, the service department and overall customer service is going to have to be 100% perfect because the perk of a discount is no longer there to help soften any bad blows. If there are any problems at all, members will not think twice to look elsewhere. Also word of mouth and social media can be 10x worse for publicity. For the dealers sake, I hope the service quality can continue being top notch.

:bot

Pereira11

04-10-2012, 11:22 AM

very good question. I guess Budds sees more value in the TSC community than TM3.
As budds is no longer a TM3 affiliate, I have no interest in going to an event they are hosting. Why should TM3 support Budds if Budds does not support TM3 ?

Just so that everyone is aware Budds' Subaru does not offer a discount to the TSC members either. They do have Parts promotions from time to time, which I was told I cannot do here.
So to be clear Budds' Subaru Parts Manager supports TSC the same way that John and I do. We are on this forum to help the members not just sell sell sell. If you check posts from other "affliate dealers" its sales only. No one takes into consideration the amount of useful information that John posts. So if we take away a 15% discount and all of a sudden we "do not support the forum" then maybe you should reconsider what "support" means. I have respect for Joe and Jeff for the support they have had in building this forum and providing great service. At the end of the day it should be about the level of service. If a 15% discount really means that much to you then I can understand that as on major services it does mean significant savings. But will you trust another dealer the same you would trust one with great service reviews? I will still be on the forum as will John so thanks to those who support us and hopefully we will see some of you at this great event.

I would definately be interested in being an "affiliate dealer" if we could post Parts and Accessories specials as Budds' Subaru does on TSC. Maybe you guys should browse that forum before jumping to conclusions.

midnightfxgt

04-10-2012, 11:39 AM

Again, those are the employees supporting the club, and if YOU browse the forum, you will see that people are grateful. As Ryan stated, the owner's of Budd's handled this poorly, plain and simple. If we are not a large enough group for the owner's to see value in the club, thats fine. I'd rather stick to guy's like Joe and Jeff who do a lot for the club AND offer the discount.

S.F.W.

04-10-2012, 11:56 AM

Just so that everyone is aware Budds' Subaru does not offer a discount to the TSC members either. They do have Parts promotions from time to time, which I was told I cannot do here.
So to be clear Budds' Subaru Parts Manager supports TSC the same way that John and I do. We are on this forum to help the members not just sell sell sell. If you check posts from other "affliate dealers" its sales only. No one takes into consideration the amount of useful information that John posts. So if we take away a 15% discount and all of a sudden we "do not support the forum" then maybe you should reconsider what "support" means. I have respect for Joe and Jeff for the support they have had in building this forum and providing great service. At the end of the day it should be about the level of service. If a 15% discount really means that much to you then I can understand that as on major services it does mean significant savings. But will you trust another dealer the same you would trust one with great service reviews? I will still be on the forum as will John so thanks to those who support us and hopefully we will see some of you at this great event.

I would definately be interested in being an "affiliate dealer" if we could post Parts and Accessories specials as Budds' Subaru does on TSC. Maybe you guys should browse that forum before jumping to conclusions.

One thing to also clarify, is Budds Subaru pays a yearly fee to post said offerings and promotions on TSC. That financial support helps cover board costs, just like a standard sponsor. Budds leadership did not have interest in supporting TM3 either financially or through the discount program.

Jackal

04-10-2012, 12:07 PM

Just to say I like the QEW guys on this forum. They are so helpful to TM3 members.
But I do kind of find Terry Budd's response on FaceBook to be hypocritical (if he is still sponsoring The Subaru Club and offering them discounts).
He misquoted Benjamin Franklin:
The bitterness of(sic) poor service (should be quality) remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

If he really believed this then he'd stop sponsoring other clubs completely and just focus on excellent customer service.