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eSS
11-18-2012, 03:25 PM
Try Shell 87 Bronze instead.

I hear good things about shell but never went ahead and used it. I use petro cause I have massive amount of points. Doesn't it really make that much of a difference

walkabout
11-18-2012, 03:38 PM
2000km over isn't going to change my mileage. as for warranty, at the rate I drive, it's good for 1.5years tops. my Quest has nearly 400,000km, no major repairs and very few minor ones, doing what I'm doing. I do take care of my vehicles, a little late on oil change is not a biggie ;)

Booter22
11-18-2012, 05:14 PM
2000km over isn't going to change my mileage. as for warranty, at the rate I drive, it's good for 1.5years tops. my Quest has nearly 400,000km, no major repairs and very few minor ones, doing what I'm doing. I do take care of my vehicles, a little late on oil change is not a biggie ;)

:bang you cant complain about a fuel econ problem and not even be up on your maint. pretty sure the service team is going to have something to say about it when you complain about your fuel economy. an over due oil change will effect your mileage and engine wear as the vehicle has to work hard to produce the same power. thats why there is a recommended oil change interval.

once you get that in order and see if there is any change. then continue to post. at this point there is no futher help or assistance im going to try and offer.

good luck!

eSS
11-19-2012, 03:58 AM
Good to see you acheiving some good numbers. Skyactiv FTW

B-Rad
11-19-2012, 07:33 PM
Hello Folks.....I was lurking around this site when I bought my car and that was back in April. So I am lurking again 8 mths and 32000 km later. Obviously past any sort of break in period and my fuel economy has been getting worse. My average is 6.5l/100km right now and getting higher. I have been using an app on my Blackberry since day one if anyone wants to see the numbers. I like the car but I bought it for the mileage numbers which I am not coming even close to achieving.

walkabout
11-20-2012, 04:18 PM
well, yesterday the service manager was too busy to take my car out so he said i should try the test myself and let him know. i did 100kph, no electricals on, drove for 90km and used only 4.2L of gas. Filled up at the exact pump both times. So that gives me 4.7L/100km. I still don't trust this test, how can i get better than manufacturer's rating in this test, yet can only get an average of 750km out of 50L?? There has to be a more "scientific" way to check. Now that i have my 2nd oil change, I'll monitor for another couple tankfuls how many km's i get, see if it's any better.

just for curiousity, I kept stuffing gas in the tank. put another 8L in there after the first click off, and i think it could take some more. maybe if I fill until i see gas in the filler hole, try the test again and top up, would give me a proper reading of fill level. is that bad to overstuff cars with gas? is it gonna blow up?

by the way, my old Quest is now getting 9.8L/100km. it's rated for 10.2 highway. it has a trip computer which also says average speed, which is usually up around 95kph to give an idea of my driving. i'm really not a complainer, i have nothing for rave reviews for my Quest, i'll even forgive it for being a mini van. :D

walkabout
11-20-2012, 04:24 PM
I have been commenting along a different thread here. I have a 4 month old sky hatch auto with over 18,000km. havent' been happy with economy from the start. i get maybe 750km out of 50L of gas, 95% highway driving, and should be getting a lot closer to 1000km. even if i drive like the car is made of eggshell, i can't get much more km's

walkabout
11-21-2012, 09:52 AM
I only look at the manufacturers reported fuel economy which should be 4.9L/100km highway for the skyactive auto, not as compared to other Mazda engines. A break in period of well past first oil change (8000km) is ridiculous. The dealer is making all sorts of excuses as to why I'm not getting expected fuel economy. Bottom line is I'm convinced Mazda has overstated their economy rating.

I can't compare my driving to anyone elses, as not many people do the percentage of highway driving that I do. I can compare other vehicles that I've driven. I also own a 2007 Quest minivan with nearly 400000km on it. It has a trip computer that reports fuel economy, and I have confirmed it's accuracy a few times. It's reporting 9.8L/100km, Nissan's claim is 10.2 highway. Average speed is usually up around 95kph. I don't drive it gently, run my A/C all summer long, and have had it laden down with heavy stuff, once even had 1200lbs of topsoil in there.

What is the point of having a Mazda economy car that you can't even run the AC, or play around a little without severely affecting the economy? And I'm afraid "Zoom-Zoom" performance and good fuel economy are mutually exclusive for this car :complain

eSS
11-21-2012, 09:59 AM
I have been commenting along a different thread here. I have a 4 month old sky hatch auto with over 18,000km. havent' been happy with economy from the start. i get maybe 750km out of 50L of gas, 95% highway driving, and should be getting a lot closer to 1000km. even if i drive like the car is made of eggshell, i can't get much more km's


I only look at the manufacturers reported fuel economy which should be 4.9L/100km highway for the skyactive auto, not as compared to other Mazda engines. A break in period of well past first oil change (8000km) is ridiculous. The dealer is making all sorts of excuses as to why I'm not getting expected fuel economy. Bottom line is I'm convinced Mazda has overstated their economy rating.

I can't compare my driving to anyone elses, as not many people do the percentage of highway driving that I do. I can compare other vehicles that I've driven. I also own a 2007 Quest minivan with nearly 400000km on it. It has a trip computer that reports fuel economy, and I have confirmed it's accuracy a few times. It's reporting 9.8L/100km, Nissan's claim is 10.2 highway. Average speed is usually up around 95kph. I don't drive it gently, run my A/C all summer long, and have had it laden down with heavy stuff, once even had 1200lbs of topsoil in there.

What is the point of having a Mazda economy car that you can't even run the AC, or play around a little without severely affecting the economy? And I'm afraid "Zoom-Zoom" performance and good fuel economy are mutually exclusive for this car :complain

Guess Mazda along like Hyundai should prepare some pre-paid debit cards as well...:blah

peterm15
11-21-2012, 10:15 AM
Average fuel consumption a car company gives you is under optimal conditions.
We're in Canada. Conditions are not optimal. There is hills, weather, wind ect.

You will rarely get the advertised consumption.

Aitch
11-21-2012, 10:39 AM
I only look at the manufacturers reported fuel economy which should be 4.9L/100km highway for the skyactive auto, not as compared to other Mazda engines. A break in period of well past first oil change (8000km) is ridiculous. The dealer is making all sorts of excuses as to why I'm not getting expected fuel economy. Bottom line is I'm convinced Mazda has overstated their economy rating.

...

What is the point of having a Mazda economy car that you can't even run the AC, or play around a little without severely affecting the economy? And I'm afraid "Zoom-Zoom" performance and good fuel economy are mutually exclusive for this car :complain

What's your average speed on the highway in the Mazda?

Booter22
11-21-2012, 10:44 AM
if your not using fuelly and posting your results, then any more posts about what your getting is useless, to say you get 750 out of 50L is fine. but if your filling up the car to 45L and getting 750km on that then its a different story. if you are using fuelly they post your results so everyone can have a look.

Booter22
11-21-2012, 10:46 AM
hard to really take walkabout's fuel economy concerns seriously with posts like this.


2000km over isn't going to change my mileage. as for warranty, at the rate I drive, it's good for 1.5years tops. my Quest has nearly 400,000km, no major repairs and very few minor ones, doing what I'm doing. I do take care of my vehicles, a little late on oil change is not a biggie ;)

hopefully since you have had the oil change completed and stick to the maint schedule then you may find your fuel economy better. also like ive said in the other thread. use fuelly and post your results so we can see actual numbers. not the 750 for 50L when you may only be filling up 42,43,45L in the tank.

walkabout
11-21-2012, 11:06 AM
What's your average speed on the highway in the Mazda?

I would like to set my cruise control at 120, but have been doing 110 and have seen a very small increase in economy. at 120, with electricals going like defrost, radio, wipers, i may only get 700km from a tank. i'm not stuck in rush hour very often either. a couple times i was getting almost 800km out of the tank, not sure what caused the increase, but it didn't last.

walkabout
11-21-2012, 11:19 AM
hard to really take walkabout's fuel economy concerns seriously with posts like this.



hopefully since you have had the oil change completed and stick to the maint schedule then you may find your fuel economy better. also like ive said in the other thread. use fuelly and post your results so we can see actual numbers. not the 750 for 50L when you may only be filling up 42,43,45L in the tank.

If I were a liar, I could lie on fuelly too LOL And I mentioned in the other thread that I had gone 20000km between oil changes a couple times with my minivan. Guess what? Absolutely no change in fuel economy even though it was down a liter or two. And engine is still rock solid, never had any issues. The coolant is still original. I changed the spark plugs at 2x the km's recommended, and there was still life left on them and were pretty clean. Service manager couldn't believe it. Only one tranny fluid change during all those km's. I could go on....

And my oil change on monday, not a word was said about keeping up with oil changes.

Just wanted to point out on the Mazda page, they say "Fuel Economy. Performance. Together" http://www.mazda.ca/MciWeb/skyactiv.action?gclid=CNHp6diZ4LMCFetDMgod7zoAtQ :(

Booter22
11-21-2012, 11:34 AM
If I were a liar, I could lie on fuelly too LOL And I mentioned in the other thread that I had gone 20000km between oil changes a couple times with my minivan. Guess what? Absolutely no change in fuel economy even though it was down a liter or two. And engine is still rock solid, never had any issues. The coolant is still original. I changed the spark plugs at 2x the km's recommended, and there was still life left on them and were pretty clean. Service manager couldn't believe it. Only one tranny fluid change during all those km's. I could go on....

And my oil change on monday, not a word was said about keeping up with oil changes.

Just wanted to point out on the Mazda page, they say "Fuel Economy. Performance. Together" http://www.mazda.ca/MciWeb/skyactiv.action?gclid=CNHp6diZ4LMCFetDMgod7zoAtQ :(

im not trying to be rude in anyway. and i know the posted fuel economy ive worked at mazda for over 3 years. all we are trying to do is understand and help you. so if you are not telling the truth then there is nothing anyone can do to help you get better fuel economy so it would be in your best intrests not to do that. of course we have all gone over oil changes and it may not make a difference on other vehicles. a mini van with a v6 im sure would not find such a difference in an extendted interval between services where a 4cyl will notice a difference and need to work harder. plus differences between vehicles needs to be taken into account and cant fairly compare an apple to an orange just because they are both round.

well if the service location where you had the oil change completed didnt say anything. well then they are not doing there job to the best of there ability to ensure proper services. as if your engine failed and you are over the oil changes by mileage every time mazda has the right to decline coverage and would leave you in a rough place and fighting to say well no one told me, and the dealers side would say its in your owners manual. so its never a fun talk. but that said it would be interesting to see your fuelly numbers so anyone can offer suggestions.

otherwise as far as help ive got nothing else to offer, and wish you the best of luck and hope you can get it sorted out. if you dont help me to see what your getting i cant help you come to a resolution

distr0
11-21-2012, 11:59 AM
I would like to set my cruise control at 120, but have been doing 110 and have seen a very small increase in economy. at 120, with electricals going like defrost, radio, wipers, i may only get 700km from a tank. i'm not stuck in rush hour very often either. a couple times i was getting almost 800km out of the tank, not sure what caused the increase, but it didn't last.

Honestly, if you can test this theory, then you should get way better economy. Try setting the cruise at 95-100 and stay in the right lane for a tank and report back. If you do this in the late spring/early summer when the warmer weather comes back (without needing ac yet, and where you can leave your climate control on full cold). Sure it's slow as crap to be driving, but that would be optimal conditions as I exceeded the 2.5L six speed epa rating by a lot when my commute was mainly through country roads and almost no traffic.

genericmoniker
11-22-2012, 02:58 AM
Not using your headlights isn't going to change your fuel economy much if at all. Bump your tire pressure up 2/3 psi, and be content knowing that your car should be more than capable of getting somewhere south of 5.5L/100km. As per your fuel test, you're doing it properly, as the only "more" scientific way would be to run a completely closed test in a room with a dyno, and completely measure the amount of gas you put into the car vs the amount used. Will the car blow up? No, but the filler neck is designed with a breather in it, and I'd wager a guess that it isn't the best idea to completely fill until it's almost pouring out.

For the record, it's completely possible to outdo the manufacturers EPA estimated mileage. My father did it in his civic, I've done it in my Mazda2 (41MPG, or 5.74L/100km so almost 700L on a 40L tank) on my last trip down to Philadelphia. I found that cruise speed played a HUGE role in fuel mileage. As do outside factors such as head/tail wind and what not. I also wouldn't pay attention or base your opinons on how many "bars" you have. How much you filled after click, which pump you went to, what temperature it is, all play a factor into how "accurate" the gauge is. There is a built-in buffer in your tank, in mine it is at the bottom and I can get close to 150km out of the last tick even though my fuel gauge may say only 100km remaining.

Derek13
11-22-2012, 07:50 AM
A set of NGK lazer iridium plugs and an intake or even a K&N stock box filter should increase your fuel economy by a lot.

eSS
11-26-2012, 03:22 AM
A lot of people complain about the skyactiv not being "up to par". For what it is, it's not bad at all. Your driving style does play a huge factor in it; along with trips taken and what not. For the most part im averaging 700kms every two weeks of 50/50 (hwy/city) driving between work and leisure time. I find it I just went work to home and didnt go anywhere else I got my highest reading to date at 765.kms. In short Im happy

walkabout
11-26-2012, 09:13 PM
Just found this article http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/04/mazda3-skyactiv-the-truth-behind-the-epa-fuel-economy-numbers/ Seems the expert with the computer has confirmed my fears. "On the highway, though, the manual transmission car fared no better than the automatic. Speed is a big factor. First, air resistance rises at the cube of velocity. Second, engine speed increases in lock step with vehicle speed, and at a certain rpm efficiency begins to fall off dramatically. Driving at a steady 78 mpg, the trip computer reported 30.6 (again close to my nearly decade-old Protege5). Drop ten mph, and the number ticked up to 31.3. Drop down to 62, and it took a larger jump, to 33.6. Perhaps at the double nickel the promised 37 would materialize—but I just can’t drive 55! The implication is clear – the EPA highway figure is only going to happen at speeds much lower than most of us drive."

Strange that the skyactiv is rated at 39mpg hwy in the US, that is about 6L/100km. Wonder why the Canadian site says 4.9, is this a different type of skyactiv? If 6L/100km is the real thing, then I would be happy enough with the 6.7 I've been getting.

So, I'm going to give up trying to get better fuel economy by driving so carefully. It makes my blood boil being passed by trucks, I'll forgo the extra fuel economy to save my blood pressure LOL I will be calling Mazda Canada for an explanation. I am hoping for a debit card, as I feel so cheated by false advertising ;)

And this will probably be my last Mazda, and 4cyl car for that matter. I've had mostly cars like Mustang GT (please don't hold that against me), Nissan Armada, Acura 3.2CLS, so I'm more used to power and not expecting good economy.

eSS
11-27-2012, 08:36 AM
Just found this article http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/04/mazda3-skyactiv-the-truth-behind-the-epa-fuel-economy-numbers/ Seems the expert with the computer has confirmed my fears. "On the highway, though, the manual transmission car fared no better than the automatic. Speed is a big factor. First, air resistance rises at the cube of velocity. Second, engine speed increases in lock step with vehicle speed, and at a certain rpm efficiency begins to fall off dramatically. Driving at a steady 78 mpg, the trip computer reported 30.6 (again close to my nearly decade-old Protege5). Drop ten mph, and the number ticked up to 31.3. Drop down to 62, and it took a larger jump, to 33.6. Perhaps at the double nickel the promised 37 would materialize—but I just can’t drive 55! The implication is clear – the EPA highway figure is only going to happen at speeds much lower than most of us drive."

Strange that the skyactiv is rated at 39mpg hwy in the US, that is about 6L/100km. Wonder why the Canadian site says 4.9, is this a different type of skyactiv? If 6L/100km is the real thing, then I would be happy enough with the 6.7 I've been getting.

So, I'm going to give up trying to get better fuel economy by driving so carefully. It makes my blood boil being passed by trucks, I'll forgo the extra fuel economy to save my blood pressure LOL I will be calling Mazda Canada for an explanation. I am hoping for a debit card, as I feel so cheated by false advertising ;)

And this will probably be my last Mazda, and 4cyl car for that matter. I've had mostly cars like Mustang GT (please don't hold that against me), Nissan Armada, Acura 3.2CLS, so I'm more used to power and not expecting good economy.

So why bother going with a skyactiv in the first place? If the 40MPG doesnt please you I dont know what will. Also take into account the fact the weather is getting colder now, that will take a toll on fuel mileage as well. If you used to the above stated vehicles you should have went with the 2.5 GT. You'll get more power and fuel mileage much better than you above stated vehicles.

Good luck with that debit card

Booter22
11-27-2012, 10:15 AM
ok so i dont know about getting a debit card, i would think you are taking that a bit to far, but you should really be talking to your dealer about this. its as simple as this. 2012 mazda 3 - search on the mazda system for poor fuel economy and then you get this of a list of possibles:

2012 - Mazda3 - Engine
NO.14 POOR FUEL ECONOMY [SKYACTIV-G 2.0]
14
POOR FUEL ECONOMY
DESCRIPTION
•Fuel economy is unsatisfactory.
POSSIBLE CAUSE
•Engine cooling system malfunction
•PCM DTC is stored
•Erratic signal to PCM
■APP sensor or related circuit malfunction
■ECT sensor No.1 or related circuit malfunction
■IAT sensor No.1 (integrated in MAF sensor/IAT sensor No.1) or related circuit malfunction
■MAF sensor or related circuit malfunction
■MAP sensor or related circuit malfunction
■TP sensor or related circuit malfunction
■Intermittent open or short circuit MAF sensor, APP sensor, TP sensor
•Improper operation of cooling fan control system
•Improper operation of A/C system
•Incorrect fuel injection timing
•Fuel injector malfunction
•Short to power supply in wiring harness between ignition switch terminal A and PCM terminal 2H
•Contaminated air cleaner element
•Air leakage or restriction in intake-air system
•Poor fuel quality
•Improper coolant level
•Clutch slippage (MTX)
•Improper ATF level (ATX)
•Brake dragging
•Tire air pressure malfunction
•Vacuum leakage
•Fuel leakage
•Contamination in MAF sensor
•Tires, wheels (large size)
•Change of intake air system components and exhaust system components
•Engine operation time is longer than traveled distance
■Vehicle is driven in congested traffic frequently
■Left idling for long periods
•Amount of fuel injection increases
■Overloaded
■Frequent acceleration/deceleration
■Frequently driving on ascending roads
■Travel distance per one drive is short (amount of time for warm-up is long during engine operation)
■Improper load signal input
•Improper A/C request signal
•Driver forgets to switch electronic device off
•Electronic device is frequently used with engine stopped (no power generation)
•Vehicle left undriven for long periods
•Large amount of parasitic draw (especially after-market electronic devices)
•Erratic or no signal from CMP sensor
■Loose installation
■Damaged trigger wheel (intake camshaft and/or exhaust camshaft)
■Open or short circuit in related wiring harness
•Erratic signal from CKP sensor
■Loose installation
■Damaged trigger wheel (crankshaft pulley)
■Open or short circuit in related wiring harness
•Inadequate fuel pressure (high-pressure side)
■Fuel pressure sensor malfunction
■High pressure fuel pump malfunction
■Spill valve control solenoid valve control circuit malfunction (damage to driver in PCM caused by short circuit to ground system)
■Spill valve control solenoid valve (built-into high pressure fuel pump) malfunction
■Relief valve (built-into high pressure fuel pump) malfunction
■Fuel line restricted or clogged
■Fuel pump unit malfunction
•Improper engine compression
•Improper intake valve timing due to timing chain jumping
•Improper exhaust valve timing due to timing chain jumping
•Spark plug malfunction
•Exhaust system and/or TWC restriction
•PCV valve malfunction
•Injector driver (built-into PCM) malfunction

so i would speak to the dealer and ask them to inspect the items to ensure the vehicle is operating correctly. if for some reason you are declined then i would contact mazda canada. If these items check out ok the dealer may want to put a diagnostic box in the vehicle to monitor how it is being operated.

hope this helps.

walkabout
11-27-2012, 12:05 PM
As soon as I saw the Mazda ad stating 4.9L/100km which is 48US mpg, I went and bought the car. I was contemplating the Prius and the Golf TDI, but never went to the dealer, because I trusted the Mazda ad, thinking i would get close enough to their claimed economy. The car is a pretty good little car, and it is quick enough when i need it to be. I have no other complaints besides the fuel economy. I'm only getting 35mpg on average, doing just highway, that is NOT great mileage for such a small car. How was I supposed to know it would be so fragile and suffer such a drop in economy with regular driving. I wonder why everyone here is so accepting of what I consider a major discrepancy?

Booter22
11-27-2012, 12:15 PM
again it all comes to how you drive you need to understand how the car is tested. but that said 35mpg is pretty good, right now im getting about 29.8MPG. im happy with that, but take the info what i provided to the dealer and see if they can further assist and help you.

loki
11-27-2012, 02:51 PM
threads merged

Booter22
11-27-2012, 04:41 PM
threads merged

thank you. would a re title of Skyactives and fuel economy be fitting?

walkabout
11-27-2012, 04:58 PM
Gee, I'm learning important lessons here. I just went on Toyota canada vs Toyota US sites. US rates the prius 48mpg hwy (4.9L/100km). Canada rates it a whopping 3.8L/100km (74mpg). A car testing site said they got about 50mpg with the Prius. So i guess if you want to know REAL fuel economy, go to the US sites. And Mazda is off the hook and forgiven, the real issue is with Government of Canada/Transport Canada Test Methods. They're nuts! Sorry to fill up so much space here, but I had to get to the bottom of this...

walkabout
11-28-2012, 09:17 AM
Found this link too http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/programs/environment-fcp-procedure-650.htm There's lots of reading on the tc site on testing, surf around to see it all. The US uses a more complete test method, including with AC, fast driving etc.

captobvious75
11-28-2012, 01:00 PM
Should have bought a diesel. End thread.

Seshan
11-29-2012, 05:29 PM
Managed to get 153km on one bar.

The car has more than 2000km already.

I started the car and it reads 153km and one bar missing only. Soon afterwards, second bar gone withn 5 minutes or so.

I did 170km today on 1 bar, but how the bars work is weird, Say if I did 120km with full bars still, then shut the car off then turned it back on, I think it would drop a bar. Bar's aren't really a good indicator of gas mileage, Hell the fill gas sign comes on with about 12l in a tank, you could do almost 150 km with that.

Booter22
11-29-2012, 08:00 PM
fuelly is the best way to measure consumption.

mazda33
11-30-2012, 11:12 AM
I have been getting about 13.7km/L which is around 32mpg. I am not thrilled by this but it's not too shabby either. I drive over 100 only about 40% of the time, and it's the city driving which is hurting my mpg.

Booter22
11-30-2012, 01:19 PM
I have been getting about 13.7km/L which is around 32mpg. I am not thrilled by this but it's not too shabby either. I drive over 100 only about 40% of the time, and it's the city driving which is hurting my mpg.
you so you dont mean 13.7L/100 km?

mazda33
11-30-2012, 02:57 PM
you so you dont mean 13.7L/100 km?

No because that would mean I am getting 100/13.7 = ~7.3km per L which is not true.

I get a solid 13-14km for every liter.

I usually fill up approx 43-44L on a consistent basis (1 bar remaining) and trip computer shows between 580-600 on a consistent basis. Have done about 8 fill ups so far.

walkabout
11-30-2012, 03:30 PM
I just started using Fuelly, put my first fill up in there. my car now has just over 20,000km, and 2 oil changes. got 815km on one tank, 52L fillup, 6.4L/100km. so that was a bit better economy than what i had been getting, 6.7L/100km. Remember, 6L/100km (EPA value) is about the most we're going to get in real world highway driving. I'm much happier with this latest result, doing 110kph isn't so bad either. Hope it lasts...

http://badges.fuelly.com/images/sig-metric/163085.png (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/walkabout/3)

Booter22
11-30-2012, 03:34 PM
No because that would mean I am getting 100/13.7 = ~7.3km per L which is not true.

I get a solid 13-14km for every liter.

I usually fill up approx 43-44L on a consistent basis (1 bar remaining) and trip computer shows between 580-600 on a consistent basis. Have done about 8 fill ups so far.

are you caluclating this yourself or using say fuelly to show your consumption.

use this - www.fuelly.com

best site for tracking. put in your info on full fuel ups from your bill and much easier to track and show others what your car is doing. you can put notes as well ( 94 used, 89 used. so on)

loki
11-30-2012, 05:45 PM
you so you dont mean 13.7L/100 km?

10L/100km = 1L gives you 10km

I'm gonna leave that there and let you check your math again lol

13.7L/100km is speed3 city driving territory

Booter22
11-30-2012, 07:28 PM
10L/100km = 1L gives you 10km

I'm gonna leave that there and let you check your math again lol

13.7L/100km is speed3 city driving territory

yea really..


No because that would mean I am getting 100/13.7 = ~7.3km per L which is not true.
I get a solid 13-14km for every liter.
I usually fill up approx 43-44L on a consistent basis (1 bar remaining) and trip computer shows between 580-600 on a consistent basis. Have done about 8 fill ups so far.

and if your getting 14km per L would mean you get about 572km per tank based on a 44L fill up.

i might be off on my math. but would it not be 44L filled / 572 km driven *100 = fuel econ for L used so in this case it would be 7.69L per 100KM.

this is the same way fuelly maths out L/100KM as well so your actually getting 7.69L/100 KM

loki check that and give me a gold star if correct. if correct Mazda33 use that formula to see what your getting per tank.

Aitch
11-30-2012, 07:32 PM
My last tank was my worst - 10L/100km. Of course it was almost all city, short trips hooning around, in the cold.

mazda33
12-04-2012, 12:23 PM
What brand of gas are you using and grade?

I don't normally have a preference but there's a SHell close to my house and all my fill ups have been from there. I use 87 octane; the basic one.

JoeBoxer
01-30-2013, 05:19 PM
I have a brand new 2012 Sky hatch and have 2000 km on it. Last tank I has 12.1l/100km. So far nowhere close to 700-1000km a tank. Hoping it gets better.

KINGACS
02-07-2013, 12:43 AM
I have a brand new 2012 Sky hatch and have 2000 km on it. Last tank I has 12.1l/100km. So far nowhere close to 700-1000km a tank. Hoping it gets better.

In the same boat as you got my 2012 Sky sedan not too long ago and I've only got 600Km on a full tank and I've been driving like a grandma to break it in and I do 80% CLEAN highway driving...I know it's cold and all but once I start to drive my normal way I'll only be getting 400 km at most (Im seriously driving like a grandma since I got it)

2012speed3
02-07-2013, 10:22 PM
I'm not really sure where Mazda got their fuel mileage claims from, the wife's CX-5 is't much better on gas than my speed3.

Stevar
02-10-2013, 01:26 AM
Was getting 10.9L/100kms then 10.1 got discouraged and reset my ECU by battery kill, set my fuel trims and got 7.8L/100kms for the same weekly commute. The engine even changed from this purring little motor that somehow kicked your butt around 3500rpm to a rougher idle and little more linear power in the high RPMs. Tuning changed. Still braking in the engine but I believe that I accelerated the fuel economy by telling the computer "No!..Nnnno!, Slow down!" Just Like I tell me dog at times. I'll sacrifice power boost for fuel economy. No idea where that power was coming from though. Perhaps because I own an automatic and the dealer and potential customers were using it in drive only causing the power-band to be mostly in one place. That and perhaps running 91 octane. I use manutronic and "drive" on highways only. Like I said, no idea. However, much better MPG numbers now with 2000kms on the car.

Paul17
02-10-2013, 05:38 PM
I have a brand new 2012 Sky hatch and have 2000 km on it. Last tank I has 12.1l/100km. So far nowhere close to 700-1000km a tank. Hoping it gets better.

thats crazy im getting 9.59l/100km on my NON sky 2011 mazda 2L

Ozil
02-11-2013, 01:45 AM
12L/100km on my 2.3L sedan...fack.

Gizzmo_jr
02-11-2013, 10:36 AM
As much as I love Mazda, it was this thread alone that kept me from getting a SkyActive.

I keep reading over and over, shoulda gotten a diesel...so I did. SkyActive is great, but not as advertised great.
Look what happened to Kia/Hyundai, they've got to give people gas cards cause they false represented their mileage.

SkyActive-D took too long to get here, so to me there was one obvious choice.
Das Auto
http://badges.fuelly.com/images/sig-metric/173920.png (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/Gizzmojr/golf)

Funny thing is I don't have to try hard to get into the 6's, and I know by summer I'll be getting low 5's no problem.
Fuelly is a very reliable way of tracking your combined fuel economy. I don't care about the one time trip to XXX from YYY and got 35mpg. Everyday stuff matters more.

Anyone with a regular gasser 2.3L, you should be getting better numbers then what I've read, click my signature banner for fuelly.

greyseason
02-11-2013, 12:52 PM
@gizzmo I love my skyactiv mazda3, and im getting used to such good gas mileage (6-7L/100km) in the winter, Ill have to look into a diesel or super efficient gasoline car next time around, because ill only be disappointed when it gets worse mileage then what im used too.

Mazduh
02-12-2013, 11:30 AM
Well, I'm at the 12,000 km mark, and economy seems to have taken a shit. Haven't figured out my list tank, but I'm getting a good 100km less per tank now :( Not pleased

r4mi5awi
02-13-2013, 08:25 AM
So far with only 7000 km of driving, I typically get around 600-630 kms on a full tank. I'll start being impressed once I'm flirting close to 700 or higher.

6mtsedan
02-19-2013, 08:53 PM
My first post!
I have a '12 hatch w the 6 speed. I too was looking for a car with better fuel economy and it was a toss up between a tdi and a sky.
In the end, and with all the calulations, i couldn't justify buying a diesel. I had a 2001 jetta tdi which i loved but knew the maintenance was pretty intense. In the end, i factored it would take you 6 years to pay off the cost of a diesel vs the fuel economy difference.
That being said, in real time, my commute is mostly stop and go 7am and 4pm commutes from scarborough to etobicoke and back. I average around 600km to the tank. Its okay, not great, but not bad. Its still faster than a TDI and more room than a golf. Oranges to Oranges, i wish i'd gone with a tdi just for the torque and as another member said, its not hard to hit the good fuel economy and have alot more of a spirited drive with the tdi vs the skyactiv which you need to baby.

r4mi5awi
02-20-2013, 10:56 PM
welcome to tm3! :)

6mtsedan
02-21-2013, 02:13 PM
Thank you for the warm welcome! This is my first Mazda and so far, its an enjoyable vehicle. I came from a honda and couldnt stand the crowd that followed behind it. It seems like the Mazda crew is more focused on suspension and not cheap ebay crap!

rajin929
02-21-2013, 10:56 PM
don't worry, don't think there are any outrageously overpriced JDM parts for the mazda 3 for you to waste your money on...

glad to hear you're enjoying the new ride.

Mazduh
04-03-2013, 11:36 AM
Well, 16,000kms on the car now....and so far still only hitting 550-600 MAX per tank. Tracked with fuely and hit 30mpg on my last tank. How are you people getting higer mpg outta these things? '12 Sky 6-speed

greyseason
04-03-2013, 12:03 PM
Well, 16,000kms on the car now....and so far still only hitting 550-600 MAX per tank. Tracked with fuely and hit 30mpg on my last tank. How are you people getting higher mpg outta these things? '12 Sky 6-speed

well, how much highway are you driving? i drive like 95% highway mon-fri, and in the winter, with my exhaust delete(not sure if it has anything to do with fuel economy, but i think it does) im getting 36ish mpg through fuelly BUT you need to remember fuelly is only as good as you are. If you're consistent, so is fuelly. I try to always go to the first click, to stay consistent. I could fill the bitch up FULL, like almost 60L, drive 800km or whatever, fill up to the first click, and it'll look like I got 40+mpg. I hope this makes sense, im at work.

BUT your fuel consumption should go down a bit in the summer. I also try and drive 100-110kph on the highway

P.s. Buy an ultraguage or equivalent OBDII scanner http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/index.htm helps you to keep your foot out of it.

EDIT: i also notice better gas milage after oil change. My cars is at 56***Kms

Mazduh
04-03-2013, 02:12 PM
well, how much highway are you driving? i drive like 95% highway mon-fri, and in the winter, with my exhaust delete(not sure if it has anything to do with fuel economy, but i think it does) im getting 36ish mpg through fuelly BUT you need to remember fuelly is only as good as you are. If you're consistent, so is fuelly. I try to always go to the first click, to stay consistent. I could fill the bitch up FULL, like almost 60L, drive 800km or whatever, fill up to the first click, and it'll look like I got 40+mpg. I hope this makes sense, im at work.

BUT your fuel consumption should go down a bit in the summer. I also try and drive 100-110kph on the highway

P.s. Buy an ultraguage or equivalent OBDII scanner http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/index.htm helps you to keep your foot out of it.

EDIT: i also notice better gas milage after oil change. My cars is at 56***Kms

I'm about 60 city and 40 highway right now. I guess once you put it that way....it isn't too too bad. Again, I always round up my fillups. Maybe I'll take your advice and look at stopping when the pump stops. I always fill at the same time, don't stop filling at the same time lol.

greyseason
04-03-2013, 04:18 PM
i like to get on the gas everyonce and awhile too :P as im sure everybody else does, it just sounds so good with the delete!

r4mi5awi
04-04-2013, 04:02 PM
Yesterday was the first time I reached 674 km on a full tank with 1 bar left. Car is shared btw my wife, 60% HWY/40% CITY, and our habits differ extremely. All in all, good for real-world testing, looking forward to the warmer weather.

VoltZ
04-05-2013, 03:20 PM
My fuelly average 7ish L/100km mainly city driving

greyseason
04-05-2013, 09:18 PM
Today I got 750ish with 48L (first click) which got me 38mpg according to fuelly. I think we'd all have higher #'s if we filled up at half tank

Gloomfrost
04-27-2013, 04:34 AM
Hey I'm picking up my 2012 GS-Sky next month and was just wondering; has anyone tried different fuels? It seems most of you are on 87, but how about 91, 94?

greyseason
04-27-2013, 08:51 AM
Hey I'm picking up my 2012 GS-Sky next month and was just wondering; has anyone tried different fuels? It seems most of you are on 87, but how about 91, 94?

Most people will tell you it's useless unless you're driving a speed which needs the higher octane. Me personally, I only use 87 but find that Petro Canada gives me the best mpg

Gloomfrost
04-27-2013, 02:27 PM
Most people will tell you it's useless unless you're driving a speed which needs the higher octane. Me personally, I only use 87 but find that Petro Canada gives me the best mpg

Can you define 'a speed which needs the higher octane'?
I've never heard the speed makes a difference lol.
I cruise at 145km/hr, which octane should I be putting in?

htc***
04-27-2013, 03:02 PM
Can you define 'a speed which needs the higher octane'?
I've never heard the speed makes a difference lol.
I cruise at 145km/hr, which octane should I be putting in?

He mean Mazdaspeed.

87 octane will be fine but I fill premium octane once a while.

Gloomfrost
04-27-2013, 05:38 PM
He mean Mazdaspeed.

87 octane will be fine but I fill premium octane once a while.

Why 91 once in awhile? Psychological reason, or the whole 'clean out my fuel system with the added fuel additives found in Shell's 94 for example'?

Also, greyseason, how do you have 87 fuel ups on a 2012 skyactiv already.. Jeez long commutes I take it!

greyseason
04-27-2013, 05:40 PM
Why 91 once in awhile? Psychological reason, or the whole 'clean out my fuel system with the added fuel additives found in Shell's 94 for example'?

Also, greyseason, how do you have 87 fuel ups on a 2012 skyactiv already.. Jeez long commutes I take it!

yeah :( 140km a day/5 days a week. just hit 60k last week

htc***
04-28-2013, 02:57 AM
Why 91 once in awhile? Psychological reason, or the whole 'clean out my fuel system with the added fuel additives found in Shell's 94 for example'?

To clean out the Ethanol's trace in the engine.

Jonathan13
04-29-2013, 11:35 PM
im hitting roughly 720 km per tank. love it!

icebalm
04-30-2013, 12:59 AM
What the hell is your guy's secret? I'm only getting 550-600 on my '12 M3 GS-SKY, which is pretty disheartening since I was getting 650km/tank with my '06 M3 GT.

r4mi5awi
04-30-2013, 01:39 AM
Do tell, the highest I ever got was 674 km and average 550 to 610. What gives?

Jonathan13
04-30-2013, 08:14 AM
most of my driving is highway, that helps a lot

greyseason
04-30-2013, 09:10 AM
mine too, and i keep er around 100kph. ultraguage helps (i think), and draft trucks. Right now, as it sits in the work parking lot, i think im at 170km before the first bars gone down, but im sure it will once i start driving.

Chrisinski
04-30-2013, 10:57 AM
:facepalm I knew I should have bought the sky.

r4mi5awi
04-30-2013, 01:34 PM
Look at the bright side, every future gen mazda model will carry some sort of Skyactiv tech. :p

Aren't all CX-5 and 6 models labeled as Skyactiv?

greyseason
04-30-2013, 04:03 PM
Look at the bright side, every future gen mazda model will carry some sort of Skyactiv tech. :p

Aren't all CX-5 and 6 models labeled as Skyactiv?

I believe you are correct, unless they toss in a normal v6 like previous models, but with the turbo diesel I highly doubt that

Jonathan13
04-30-2013, 06:17 PM
In the cx5's they have a 2.5L skyactiv now

Aitch
04-30-2013, 10:55 PM
:facepalm I knew I should have bought the sky.

My Skyactiv fuel mileage. Average 60% city driving, loads of short trips. 8.2L/100km, not that awesome.

http://i44.tinypic.com/qnmr9y.jpg

mazda72
05-01-2013, 10:22 AM
580km so far with 4 bars left , about 60% hwy ,40% city. Pretty good considering Ive had my sunroof opened on sunny days and the car has only 8k km on it.

greyseason
05-01-2013, 02:06 PM
^^ you should hit 700 no prob

shu5892001
05-01-2013, 03:45 PM
:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm

Can you define 'a speed which needs the higher octane'?
I've never heard the speed makes a difference lol.
I cruise at 145km/hr, which octane should I be putting in?

greyseason
05-01-2013, 04:25 PM
:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm
lmao

also who cruises at 145?! youre gas mileage must be awful

greyseason
05-01-2013, 04:25 PM
the internet at work sucks ass, ive had like 3 double posts today

greyseason
05-02-2013, 02:30 PM
This is my gas while driving to work this morning http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/uha7u2en.jpg

Mazduh
05-02-2013, 04:48 PM
This is my gas while driving to work this morning http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/uha7u2en.jpg

WTH!! I'm at just about 400 for that amount of fuel....mostly highway too.

greyseason
05-02-2013, 05:56 PM
AC on? Or still on winters? I noticed it's much better with my alloys on. I like to draft trucks too

You guys should buy ultraguage's. then I can compare what I have to other sky folk.

r4mi5awi
05-02-2013, 09:23 PM
This is my gas while driving to work this morning http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/uha7u2en.jpg

WTF! You lucked out more than the rest of us. Since you draft trucks, which is ballsy IMO, how's your hood holding up? Any cracks on the windshield?

Gloomfrost
05-02-2013, 11:41 PM
:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm


lmao

also who cruises at 145?! youre gas mileage must be awful

That post was actually meant to be sarcastic. Guess it wasn't so obvious, I should've added emoticons.

I cruise at 145km/hr as much as possible. I'm used to much higher speeds coming from Europe, the 100km/hr is a toddler limit on the highways here. I'd go faster if they didn't threaten to take my car at 50 over.

I do 50% city, 50% highway, I get about 650km per tank on my 4-auto 2004 Mazda3 2.0L. I'm excited for my sky, the 2 extra gears should help!

greyseason
05-03-2013, 08:27 AM
WTF! You lucked out more than the rest of us. Since you draft trucks, which is ballsy IMO, how's your hood holding up? Any cracks on the windshield?

The hoods good actually! Maybe 3-4 little chips ill fix soon. The windshield in the other hand has a crack in it, which I would have gotten fixed when it was a chip, but the chip happened to the left of the windshield, in the black part. So i never spotted it.

Honestly, I just drive slow, and take my time. Can someone who doesn't usually buy gas at Petro Canada get some and see if their sky likes it as much as it seems mine does?

This is how she sits right now still have 9 liters apparently http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/ataqadyb.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/03/y7ejenen.jpg

greyseason
05-03-2013, 05:40 PM
Just pulled into my driveway from work. Gotta fill up next time I leave. Last bar just disappeared http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/04/ze8ujuga.jpg

distr0
05-03-2013, 05:44 PM
I'm sure you can hit 900 easily depending on how long you've gone since you hit no bars.

greyseason
05-03-2013, 05:51 PM
I'm sure you can hit 900 easily depending on how long you've gone since you hit no bars.

For sure! But my next stop will be London haha so gotta fill up. I could probably make it though..

sarujo
05-04-2013, 03:51 PM
greyseason - what gauge/reader is that displaying the fuel amounts and DTE? Is that the new Scangauge?

The Wolf
05-04-2013, 07:48 PM
:facepalm I knew I should have bought the sky.


why? I drive a 2.3L approximately 60/40 highway/city and my trip computer shows 7.8L/100km avg. I typically get 650+ km/tank. You leadfoots need to cool your jets.

loki
05-05-2013, 10:39 AM
Isn't there an ultra gauge thread?

Gonna move all these posts

Mazduh
05-07-2013, 07:51 AM
Just pulled into my driveway from work. Gotta fill up next time I leave. Last bar just disappeared http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/04/ze8ujuga.jpg

Ballsy. I've never run that low on mine.....always fill when the last bar is showing.

Perhaps I'll fill with Petro my next tank. Been using CT fuel and net around 30mpg off of it, not horrible....but could be better!

greyseason
05-07-2013, 08:00 AM
I usually try and fill it up with one bar left, but it just disappeared not long before I took that picture

Ill be filling up with CT fuel tonight probably cause it's 5 cents off with the app

Mazduh
05-22-2013, 09:10 AM
Filled up the other day, forgot to take a pic. Got 658kms, still had the last bar showing. That's 6.8L/100kms.....the best I've seen was 6.6....and that was when I first got the car. Had to fill as I had a 30 km trek home and was scared to chance it lol.
Got 210kms on a quarter now. Since I put the OEM suspension back on, and my Sky wheels....I've noticed a HUGE jump in my MPG.

greyseason
05-22-2013, 09:57 AM
Filled up the other day, forgot to take a pic. Got 658kms, still had the last bar showing. That's 6.8L/100kms.....the best I've seen was 6.6....and that was when I first got the car. Had to fill as I had a 30 km trek home and was scared to chance it lol.
Got 210kms on a quarter now. Since I put the OEM suspension back on, and my Sky wheels....I've noticed a HUGE jump in my MPG.

What kinda suspension did you have on before?

Mazduh
05-22-2013, 09:59 AM
Ksport Kontrol Pro coilovers. Lowering I'm sure didn't effect it, just the wheels did.

greyseason
05-22-2013, 10:49 AM
Oh I thought your handle sounded familiar. Saw your FS thread. What kinda wheels did you have on there?

Edit: nevermind lol

r4mi5awi
05-27-2013, 10:23 AM
Your car hatch or sedan? I know sedan give a slightly better millage.

Btw, what does CT fuel mean?

Canadian Tire

greyseason
05-27-2013, 10:26 AM
Sedan, 6speed manual. The auto would yield slightly better results I think as well

3zilla
05-29-2013, 02:15 AM
interesting thread ... going to track my mpg pretty closely and see the results. hope to see some improvement from my previous 3

greyseason
06-07-2013, 07:44 PM
hows it going guys, thought id share this with ya. So as you guys can see from this thread ive been getting great gas mileage out of my 2012 mazda3 skyactiv sedan. Over the winter my mpg dropped like everybodys, but was still never bad at around 600-650km a tank. As the weather warmed up and i tossed on my stock alloys from my winters, i started getting closer to 700-750km if i pushed it. My cars at 68***km right now(god thats high) and ive been doing some research on reliablity for direct injection motors and got reading up on oil catch cans and getting your intake cleaned out, I read through this thread (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?70993-%28Skyactiv-engine%29-Carbon-build-up-in-intake-valves). It was just about time to book an oil change so i asked the tech/person at the desk about getting my intake tract cleaned and whatnot. He told me it was about $120 and took an hour i believe. Best $120 ive spent on the car so far. I filled up the car before i left for kitchener, and drove to Forbes waterloo mazda. I guess hwat they do it unhook your vaccume line and run your car with this solution going into your intake, and they clean out your throttle body and im sure other things.This was on wednesday, and today as my car sits right now its right here

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s377/greyseason/1ECD695E-4710-4ECF-B461-297B0CD95E41-9338-0000112D4CDB4597_zpse35578fa.jpg

I would love and fill my tank right up and shoot for 1000km but dont wanna mess up my fuelly jive i got going on haha but that would be cool!

greyseason
06-14-2013, 08:47 PM
you guys still kicking?!

im at 850km on my tank right now.. should go take a pic actually. 2 squares left but will go to the last square soon. That cleaning was money well spent

Edit:http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/15/unusegaj.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/15/y9epy3em.jpg

Just filled up

CloudPump
07-15-2013, 05:52 PM
and it starts.. :bang walkabout. your new. tons of good info on the forum. for example.. the 4.9l/100km is what the car is rated to get. give or take. if you sit in 2-5 hours of traffic on your way to work regardless of it your on the hwy and moving slightly if your not doing 100km/h then your not going to get whats rated. also doesnt account for how long or if you do turn the vehicle on and let it idle to warm up for a few mintues or if you do lots of up hill by chance, if you have your defrost on which kicks the a/c on and that alone will kill the fuel economy huge. all of the things we do is not accounted for.

its only accounting for doing 100km/h all the time, no stop and go. no idle time. no warm up.just speed up and maintain. thats where everyones fuel economy goes wayyy down.

<SNIP>



Bolding the most important part, this is not true.

Transport canada's fuel consumption test guidlines are:


The simulated city loop is based on a 23-minute drive of 12 kilometres with 18 complete stops. The average speed of the test is 32 km/h. The simulated highway run is based on a 13-minute loop of 16 km with no stops. The top speed during the highway test is 97 km/h, and the average speed is 77 km/h

I've also bolded the most important part of the test. The highway test is an absolute joke. When was the last time you averaged 77km/h on the 401?

-Geoff

Aitch
07-15-2013, 10:49 PM
When is the last time you averaged higher than 77km/h in rush hour :P

Booter22
07-15-2013, 11:31 PM
When is the last time you averaged higher than 77km/h in rush hour :P

or managed to get very far with no stops, and very slow going in between. under perfect conditions, sure it will get very good fuel econ, my non sky got at its most 756km to the tank twice, but that was all highway at 100 km no more. mind you doing 100km/h on the highway is more dangerious then it sounds. even in the slow lane. sadly the test condisions is never "real world" doesnt account for everything we go through just on our daily drives.

TTHX
07-15-2013, 11:50 PM
Most I've reached so far is 750ish. But recently I've only been getting 400-600. I'd say 50/50 city and highway driving. I do like to push the car a little harder though so that'd explain it.

Gizzmo_jr
07-16-2013, 02:39 PM
So the common theme is 500-700'ish for everyone, but drafting transports and avg ~100km/h on the highway will net you advertised mpg? Ref: greyseason

If I've read all this correctly?

greyseason
07-16-2013, 03:23 PM
So the common theme is 500-700'ish for everyone, but drafting transports and avg ~100km/h on the highway will net you advertised mpg? Ref: greyseason

If I've read all this correctly?

Hey man, ill try and do a quick list of my driving habits and maybe im being inefficient in some areas.

1. Im mostly all highway km's (just hit 75000 yesterday...)
2. easy on the gas, hills are a bitch since im usually going only 100kph
3. off gas coasting/light light throttle on downhills where id end up loosing speed
4. drafting trucks (not nascar style, and not behind trucks where you can tell they dont like you back there (they slow down and get in your way))
5. well we all have sky's with a 6sp but i try and shift around 2000-2200 rpm (not sure if this is ideal)
6. I try and not rush in the morning to work where i dont need to go more than 105
7. Buy an ultraguage! Ive been meaning to make a video for sappo and ya'll but seriously, i think it helps me (but at the same time i didnt have one last year and i swear i got better mileage haha)
8. If any of you guys are reaching 50,000km, get your intake tract cleaned. Its $120 and rejuvenated my mileage along with the warmer temps
9. I notice better economy after an oil change
10. never really use AC

I'm about 50/50 when slowing down. Sometimes ill just pop it into neutral but read somewhere that on GDI engines, at least ours, the injectors shut off above 1500rpm when there is no throttle input (can someone second this?), so coasting and downshifting to a stop seems to give you sliiightly better economy. Also a member has put metel sheeting and tin foil in his engine bay and recieved i think 10% in better fuel economy. In the mail i have a CS SRI, which is hit and miss on mileage. once installed and ive gotten all the new part goodness out of my system, ill try and compare old to new.

Will update if I think of anything else

edit: i also want to remove unwanted weight at some point ( rear seats and whatnot) that should lighten this girl up, as well as removing my muffler probably saved me 30-40lbs

CloudPump
07-16-2013, 03:56 PM
<SNIP>
I'm about 50/50 when slowing down. Sometimes ill just pop it into neutral but read somewhere that on GDI engines, at least ours, the injectors shut off above 1500rpm when there is no throttle input (can someone second this?), so coasting and downshifting to a stop seems to give you sliiightly better economy. Also a member has put metel sheeting and tin foil in his engine bay and recieved i think 10% in better fuel economy. In the mail i have a CS SRI, which is hit and miss on mileage. once installed and ive gotten all the new part goodness out of my system, ill try and compare old to new.

Will update if I think of anything else

edit: i also want to remove unwanted weight at some point ( rear seats and whatnot) that should lighten this girl up, as well as removing my muffler probably saved me 30-40lbs

On all modern fuel injected cars (and by modern, I don't even mean that modern, this applies to my 21 year old RX7) your fuel injectors shut off on deceleration. If you down shift and use engine braking while you coast to a stop you are not using any fuel at all. If you pop it into neutral, you are using gas to maintain idle as you coast.

-Geoff

greyseason
07-16-2013, 04:11 PM
Thanks Geoff!

Question. Engine braking. I've looked it up and never really figured it out.

I'm going down the street and see a light turn yellow. I'm in 4th gear and drop it into 3rd without rev matching. The car jerks a little( sometimes) and will rev up to the rpm it's supposed to be. Now is that engine braking? And is it worth it over using your brakes? Because I've accidentally misdownshifted and have felt 'engine braking) but never grasped how to do it when I want too

CloudPump
07-16-2013, 04:32 PM
Thanks Geoff!

Question. Engine braking. I've looked it up and never really figured it out.

I'm going down the street and see a light turn yellow. I'm in 4th gear and drop it into 3rd without rev matching. The car jerks a little( sometimes) and will rev up to the rpm it's supposed to be. Now is that engine braking? And is it worth it over using your brakes? Because I've accidentally misdownshifted and have felt 'engine braking) but never grasped how to do it when I want too

Engine braking is a term used to describe when you're using the friction of your engine to help reduce the speed of the car. It's very commonly referenced to truckers maintaining a specific gear when coasting down a grade, rather than boiling their brakes trying to fight gravity's effect on their load. Short version: anytime you're coasting in gear on a manual transmission, you're technically engine braking.

I habitually double clutch and down shift when coming to a stop. Double clutching is used to bring your transmission internals up to speed along with your engine.

Is it worth using over braking? Not as your sole source of braking, however it helps augment driving... I've been coasting down a hill and approaching the vehicle in front of me very slowly, but shifting from 6th to 5th will provide just enough additional friction to keep the gap safe.

-Geoff

MickiWasHere
07-30-2013, 05:15 PM
I often fill up my gas every after 4 days. But doesn't use my car a lot. Ohh well, maybe it's just because of how i drive it. I often rev it too fast right after the red light.

greyseason
07-30-2013, 06:01 PM
you must use alot of gas than, holy. Start using fuelly https://www.fuelly.com/dashboard/ to see what youre getting.

greyseason
08-02-2013, 05:58 PM
but does it work for DI engines? it probably cleans the valves, which, wouldnt help our motor

greyseason
08-02-2013, 06:26 PM
will have to look into that...

the only thing i know that will clean our skyactiv engines (not the normal 2.0 or 2.5) is mazdas own brand called mazclean or something like that. The service is $120 and has gets done in about an hour. Its recommended every 50,000km but not nessisary. I had it done and recommend people to do it. Helped my gas mileage out alot! MSpeed also offers the same service. The mazdaspeed3 motor is direct injected as well

Jonathan13
06-23-2014, 08:29 PM
My fuel mileage has plummeted lately, only getting about 400-500km per tank with my 2012 sky 6speed. Mostly highway kms too!

Mazduh
06-23-2014, 08:30 PM
Still averaging about 625-650kms city on my 6 spd sedan. Lovin it

switzah
06-23-2014, 10:06 PM
I get just under 700km and sometimes just over 700km to a tank :)

funkdupspeed3
06-23-2014, 10:28 PM
My mileage is starting to improve after my 2nd oil change. I'm getting approximately 650-675km with about 50% highway (traffic and cruising)/50% city. I am impressed thus far :) If I did all highway with cruising, I'm sure 750km would be realistic.

greyseason
06-24-2014, 09:21 AM
Got this yesterday
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/24/erugedys.jpg

greyseason
06-24-2014, 09:22 AM
My fuel mileage has plummeted lately, only getting about 400-500km per tank with my 2012 sky 6speed. Mostly highway kms too!
That's weird,maybe check your tire pressure. how many km?

Mazduh
06-24-2014, 09:26 AM
824! I've never seen 700 lol. But, my mileage is combined and also I'm hard on it at times.

r0mund0
06-24-2014, 10:38 AM
I have an UltraGuage and it tells me I've been averaging 7.3L/100km. I'm driving an automatic 2014 Skyactive Mzd3 GX; city driving with barely any stop & go traffic.

bilinz
06-24-2014, 10:49 AM
Got this yesterday
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/24/erugedys.jpg
What's your secret? Lol

greyseason
06-24-2014, 10:53 AM
What's your secret? Lol
haha just a light foot and almost all highway. would be even better without the subs and wheels!

I'm thinking I shoukd get my valves cleaned at some point too

bilinz
06-24-2014, 11:01 AM
haha just a light foot and almost all highway. would be even better without the subs and wheels!

I'm thinking I shoukd get my valves cleaned at some point too
Yeah.. I really need to learn to have a light foot lol. I average 550 mostly city so it's really not that bad. Plus I noticed a bit less milage since I switched from 16" rims to 18"

Jonathan13
06-24-2014, 12:33 PM
That's weird,maybe check your tire pressure. how many km?
ive checked them (someone told me to) and only 32000km!

walkabout
07-10-2014, 10:14 PM
Thought I'd return to update on my gas mileage progress. I've done over 100,000km on my 2012 now and since this spring, I'm finally getting mileage I'm happy with :) Those are pretty well all highway kms. During the winter, at about 85k, I got new tires, Hankook optima 4S. It was a brutal winter and mileage was pretty bad, maybe 600 to 650km per tank. Fillups for me are usually around 50L. For the past few months I've been getting 800km fairly regularly, even if I'm running the AC half the time. Several tanks I've gotten up to about 850km. So, that's between 5.9 and 6.25L/100km. Perhaps the tires made the difference, who knows...

r0mund0
07-10-2014, 11:12 PM
Thought I'd return to update on my gas mileage progress. I've done over 100,000km on my 2012 now and since this spring, I'm finally getting mileage I'm happy with :) Those are pretty well all highway kms. During the winter, at about 85k, I got new tires, Hankook optima 4S. It was a brutal winter and mileage was pretty bad, maybe 600 to 650km per tank. Fillups for me are usually around 50L. For the past few months I've been getting 800km fairly regularly, even if I'm running the AC half the time. Several tanks I've gotten up to about 850km. So, that's between 5.9 and 6.25L/100km. Perhaps the tires made the difference, who knows...

That's amazing! Got a light foot? Do you have AT or MT? Gotta drive like you...I'm only getting 550km on 50L.

bilinz
07-10-2014, 11:41 PM
I do about 550 mostly city so I would think doing mostly highway would get me 750ish or so.

walkabout
07-11-2014, 11:30 AM
That's amazing! Got a light foot? Do you have AT or MT? Gotta drive like you...I'm only getting 550km on 50L.

My foot has lightened up a bit since the spring :( Got a couple speeding tickets in the last year. Still I cruise mostly at 115kph, doesn't seem to upset the radar cops :D I consider my driving style moderately spirited (she's only seen redline a handful of times). My car is a hatchback auto usually just me in it. I drive about 90% highway kms, between Belleville and Toronto, so I would expect closer to the highway rated mileage. The previous two summers I was getting maybe 700 per tank, once in a while it would give as much as 750. So, an extra 100km is very good!

Mazduh
07-26-2014, 09:28 PM
Well, got this a few days ago. Not sure what happened. Was about 80% highway and 20% city. Averaged 5.9L/100kms. Filled a little more then 44 liters.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/27/2abejaza.jpg

r0mund0
08-01-2014, 03:35 AM
Just drove from Toronto to Ottawa and got 5.51L/100km. I was averaged 120km/h and encountered 3 areas of 10 min stop and go traffic due to construction. I only made one stop at a service station and floored it in the on -ramp to the 401.


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/y3yha7u7.jpg

$lickology
08-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Good average brah, in what time did you make the trip? Last monday I drove back to Ottawa 3hrs 50mins, averaged 131kms/hour, one stop at an Enroute raining heavily, averaged 7.9L/100 :)

greyseason
08-01-2014, 11:53 AM
Just so you guys know,the ultraguage is ONLY a gauge and is only so accurate. If you want real world fuel economy numbers, fuelly.com Will be the best.

As a example, when going down a slight hill, at 100kph, drafting a car/truck I can get the instantanious mpg to sit at 120mpg. Let's be serious, I ain't getting that, but it does Tell me when I'm being conservative or not

$lickology
08-01-2014, 11:54 AM
Took this pic as I got home (in my spot).

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/Slick09GT3/20140728_161115_zpsf0608e62.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/Slick09GT3/media/20140728_161115_zpsf0608e62.jpg.html)
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y454/Slick09GT3/20140728_161153_zps13696563.jpg (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/Slick09GT3/media/20140728_161153_zps13696563.jpg.html)

greyseason
08-01-2014, 11:54 AM
I'll take a video for you guys

r0mund0
08-01-2014, 01:36 PM
Good average brah, in what time did you make the trip? Last monday I drove back to Ottawa 3hrs 50mins, averaged 131kms/hour, one stop at an Enroute raining heavily, averaged 7.9L/100 :)

Made it in about 4hrs.

r0mund0
08-01-2014, 01:45 PM
Just so you guys know,the ultraguage is ONLY a gauge and is only so accurate. If you want real world fuel economy numbers, fuelly.com Will be the best.

As a example, when going down a slight hill, at 100kph, drafting a car/truck I can get the instantanious mpg to sit at 120mpg. Let's be serious, I ain't getting that, but it does Tell me when I'm being conservative or not

Ultraguage has a "short trip" reading that resets each time u start and shut off the car. That being said, I just realized my 5.52L/100km was my reading direct from the Enroute stop at Mallory Town to Ottawa. Prior to that my short trip reading was around 5.6L/100km (trip included all the stop and go traffic I mentioned.

greyseason
08-01-2014, 01:50 PM
That's real good than!
I was mostly saying it because I can reset my avg mpg and it will average out at 41ish but I'm not getting that, close at like 34-40 but it varys. I just use the average to give me a down to empty range for my gas. I love this thing, Reddie1337 when you getting one?!

$lickology
08-01-2014, 02:02 PM
r0mund0 holla at me since your in town, we didn't get a chance to go for that drink last sunday at Alpha's bbq? I'd like to repay you for taking care of my boy, scotch/whiskey?? Whatever you like brah :)

bestknightmare
08-01-2014, 02:02 PM
I don't have fuelly, but I get about 780km (maybe 800 if I want to take the risk, that's when my bar is full and down to the last bar) per tank on my 2013 sky (sorry, I know it's not 2012)

greyseason
08-01-2014, 03:12 PM
I know without the wheels,and subs I could get back to what had the last couple years but I love the car now now than Before

Reddie1337
08-01-2014, 11:59 PM
I know without the wheels,and subs I could get back to what had the last couple years but I love the car now now than Before

I never drove my Sky without my speed rims, and subs. Lol. I get 6-8L/100km consistently. I love the first bar not disappearing until after 100km travelled.

Girds
08-02-2014, 12:42 AM
I never drove my Sky without my speed rims, and subs. Lol. I get 6-8L/100km consistently. I love the first bar not disappearing until after 100km travelled.

Mine doesn't disappear until 150kms

Mazduh
08-03-2014, 12:06 AM
Put roof racks and kayaks on and lost 150kms. Sucks

greyseason
08-03-2014, 09:09 AM
What a drag

Girds
08-03-2014, 02:35 PM
Aha I see what you did there

Girds
08-05-2014, 04:01 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/06/unatugyn.jpg

Xtropy
08-05-2014, 04:15 PM
Been tracking mine since the day I got my M3 Sky on December 5th 2011, every fill-up (none missed). This winter was brutal and killed my average which is now 7.36 L/100KM. I am in stop and go traffic each day from Oakville to Vaughan (QEW --> 427 --> 401 --> 400) and back again.

http://i.imgur.com/O8P1M5q.png (http://imgur.com/O8P1M5q)

kimy27
10-11-2014, 08:58 AM
90% highway.
100kg equipment in trunk.
90km/h cruse in highway.

then, YOU WILL GET 4.6 l/ 100km





http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a475/tomok65/1_zps733df732.png

Mazduh
10-11-2014, 10:48 PM
Mine seems to have taken a shit lately. I'm getting 6.5 - 7l /100kms on my sky now. Not beating on it...combined city highway. Have 93000km on her now

loki
10-12-2014, 08:46 AM
6.5 to 7l/100kms doesnt seem so bad

Mazduh
10-12-2014, 08:49 AM
I guess it isn't terrible. Was averaging more before. Colder weather for sure isn't helping.

loki
10-12-2014, 08:51 AM
Soon the winter gas will be on tap and that won't help either

If it's not a diesel I'd say these numbers are good...

Worse thing to do is drive a car freaking out about fuel economy. ..then you don't enjoy driving at all. Not that everyone does, but people who don't enjoy cars dont usually join a car forum

loki
10-12-2014, 08:52 AM
Also of course that numbers in the brochure were achieved under some stringent conditions


It's like the 0-60 time....they just need to hit that number once I'm sure to advertise it as achievable....

Girds
10-16-2014, 09:22 PM
I get 6.6l/100kms

greyseason
10-16-2014, 09:47 PM
Also of course that numbers in the brochure were achieved under some stringent conditions


It's like the 0-60 time....they just need to hit that number once I'm sure to advertise it as achievable....
According to fuelly I got 6.1 today

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/16/a2d58b7c8e15d6fd8d4c0b15a5d3e055.jpg

greyseason
10-16-2014, 09:48 PM
Note I haven't been,tracking as well as I have in the past, but I haven't got that mileage in a while

Metal Wing
10-16-2014, 10:16 PM
Not sure how much my 2013 skyactiv engine is different from 2012... But anyway... Avg of 6.5 ?

Overall... http://www.fuelly.com/car/mazda/3/2013/MetalWing/213468/fuelchart

Up until April 2014, I was dating my ex. I think I see a pattern there... :chuckle

Reddie1337
10-17-2014, 02:00 AM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/16/3b5ce4fc7801f550e115a7bc461c1ac3.jpg

I consistently am under 8L/100km, except 2 blips where the tank was all city driving with stop and go.

I could get better mileage, but I'm not exactly the easiest on my car. I like to enjoy my drive, and with coils, I tend to take corners quickly.

m_bisson
10-19-2014, 06:58 AM
That's cool. I want to post a graph like that. Where on fuelly is it? :p

Reddie1337
10-19-2014, 10:11 AM
That's cool. I want to post a graph like that. Where on fuelly is it? :p

Chart all fuel ups m_bisson

Mazduh
06-23-2015, 09:50 AM
Bumping as I was shocked with my 3 this past trip to Hamilton. For the first time owning it I hit 6.0L/100 kms. 39 mpg....STUNNED by this lol. Not sure why. Overdue for everything service wise lol

Reddie1337
06-23-2015, 12:29 PM
Normally the best is when you just get the oil changed.

Girds
06-23-2015, 02:28 PM
Normally the best is when you just get the oil changed.

Speaking of that I need an oil change