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JonsMazda
06-12-2012, 04:30 PM
"To anyone who’s ever had a deep sleep or quiet, romantic dinner interrupted by the sound of a loudly-roaring car, help is at hand.

Alberta electrical engineer Mark Nesdoly has created a noise-monitoring device — the Noise Snare — designed to help police and bylaw officers track down the offenders.

The device, designed to be mounted on a car, monitors passing traffic for noise levels, then automatically takes a video of any offenders who rev up past 96 decibels. Think of it as a red-light camera, but for obnoxiously-loud cars. The first one goes into action this month in Calgary says Nesdoly, who created a prototype seven years ago.

“It’s pretty exciting that it’s happening. Nobody wanted to be the first one to take a chance, but now that Calgary’s doing it, I’m getting more interest,” said Nesdoly.

He’s hoping interest will pick up more once the first $200 fine issued under Calgary’s anti-noise bylaw winds its way through the court system.

“If I had to guess, I’d say it might take until August before there’s a conviction. I’ll be celebrating,” said Nesdoly, who was inspired to create the Noise Snare when his then-infant daughter was startled awake by a neighbour’s motorcycle 11 years ago.

Loud cars are more than just a nuisance for the neighbourhood. The people driving them are more likely to cause accidents, and are at risk of damaging their own hearing, says Rex Banks, chief audiologist at the Canadian Hearing Society.

“At 96 decibels, you’re drowning out all the traffic noises, so you wouldn’t be as aware of your surroundings. And you’d be damaging your own hearing,” said Banks, who liked the sound of Nesdoly’s invention.

“Anything that reduces noise pollution, I’d be in favour of. This sounds like a great idea,” said Banks.

Don’t expect Nesdoly’s invention in Toronto any time soon, said city spokesperson Bruce Hawkins via e-mail.

“The City is not exploring this option at this time,” said Hawkins, who explained that Toronto’s noise bylaws are enforced on a “complaint basis.” Toronto’s noise bylaws don’t have any specific decibel level. Instead, it’s a bit of a judgment call.

“No person shall make, cause or permit noise or vibration, at any time, which is likely to disturb the quiet, peace, rest, enjoyment, comfort or convenience of the inhabitants of the City,” reads the introduction to the city code section dealing with noise.

In addition to a wait-and-see attitude from some cities he’s approached, Nesdoly faces another potential obstacle to sales: His gadget isn’t exactly cheap. If he’d actually sold it to Calgary, it would have cost the city $112,500. Instead, he gave it to them. By next year, he hopes to have a cheaper model available for roughly $50,000.

If your quiet moments have been interrupted by other urban nuisances such as leaf blowers, Nesdoly warns you shouldn’t get your hopes up: He has no plans to turn the Noise Snare into a multi-purpose device.

“This is only for vehicles. And besides, if your neighbour was using a leaf blower and you wandered over to them with a piece of electrical equipment, they’d probably figure something was up,” said Nesdoly. "

MarkWB
06-12-2012, 04:55 PM
Tickets will be getting dropped left right and center for people who take these to court and say "I put my stock exhaust back on, I've learned my lesson." I had expired plate tickets practically rolling up as toilet paper and every last one of them got dropped because I told the prosecutor I sold my car...she didn't even ask for proof. What a stupid idea lol

Booter22
06-12-2012, 05:01 PM
this is so easy, put it out side of anywhere that sells harley davidsons and get them as soon as they hit the road. Bam noise pollution stopped, other then the odd sports car, and the stupid pepperd in riced out cars with next to no exhaust consider this problem fixed.

Peter
06-12-2012, 05:08 PM
I can use one of those in my complex.

The Wolf
06-12-2012, 05:18 PM
As annoying as they are, I get the point of loud pipes on a motorcycle. Great idea none the less.

leecheefoto
06-12-2012, 07:26 PM
As annoying as they are, I get the point of loud pipes on a motorcycle. Great idea none the less.

My brother and my dad have cruiser motorcycles.. They both had to get aftermarket pipes to be loud so they can be heard from nearby drivers.
I've seen many times (including my brother and dad) motorcyclists almost getting hit from the side by drivers merging lanes without even looking. None of which were even going 10km/h past the speed limit.

Face it, almost everyone changes lanes at some times without even checking their blindspot.

It's just some of the dudes riding remove their baffles to make it sound much louder than it's supposed to be.
I also hear in Oakville that they banned aftermarket pipes on motorcycles, and those who do get ticketed.

Also what about big trucks and their brake squealing :.02

Thrizzl3
06-12-2012, 07:52 PM
Woodbridge would be a prime target for this...but this means exotic cars won't be able to drive around :s...

n00bMeiSter
06-12-2012, 07:54 PM
Woodbridge would be a prime target for this...but this means exotic cars won't be able to drive around :s...

Or any harley lol

yearoftherat
06-12-2012, 07:57 PM
Or any harley lol

Like Leecheefoto said, motorcycles are loud for a reason.

pacmann33
06-12-2012, 07:59 PM
Loud bikes don't save lives. Trust me.

mazdaspeedemon3
06-12-2012, 09:24 PM
does this mean i wont be able to use my leaf blower....:s

yearoftherat
06-12-2012, 10:41 PM
Loud bikes don't save lives. Trust me.

I do agree with you. I work at a trauma center in TO and see first hand the people that were on motorcycles who come in thru ER. Stories of careless motorists who don't check their blind spots and those who can't handle the bike they are on.

Hoodzy
06-13-2012, 12:40 AM
If you think loud exhaust on a motorcycle is going to save your life.. then well you will most likely end up in the ER.
There are bad drivers who will still have no issue running you over even if you lay on the horn.
People have loud music, talking to other drivers, on their phone etc..you are just white noise. With the loud pipes you are just annoying to pretty much everyone.
Plus new cars these days block out sound rather well. My old car is a 95 and on the highway I really barely hear a bike especially if he is in my blind spot.
Also when I hear bikes/ricers/trucks driving at night when i'm trying to get to sleep they driving like dicks. So don't drive like a dick and your bike is probably not that loud.

Hoodzy
06-13-2012, 12:42 AM
Tickets will be getting dropped left right and center for people who take these to court and say "I put my stock exhaust back on, I've learned my lesson." I had expired plate tickets practically rolling up as toilet paper and every last one of them got dropped because I told the prosecutor I sold my car...she didn't even ask for proof. What a stupid idea lol
Just because your court system is clearly moronic.. AKA why does having your car sold void you of not paying tickets?? That has nothing to do with this.

taz4432
06-13-2012, 03:29 AM
The HTA does not have a set dB limit - that's part of the reason why there's so much BS surrounding 'improper' (i.e. loud) exhaust tickets. It states that it is a matter of 'officer discretion' whether or not the vehicle is too loud.

MarkWB
06-13-2012, 07:35 AM
Just because your court system is clearly moronic.. AKA why does having your car sold void you of not paying tickets?? That has nothing to do with this.

My court system? You mean the courts of York and Toronto? Courts have budgets and simply do not relentlessly pursue a conviction on every single ticket. Stuff like loud exhaust tickets are going to get tossed in the "we have better things to do" pile with the expired plate and tint tickets.

Hoodzy
06-13-2012, 08:32 AM
My court system? You mean the courts of York and Toronto? Courts have budgets and simply do not relentlessly pursue a conviction on every single ticket. Stuff like loud exhaust tickets are going to get tossed in the "we have better things to do" pile with the expired plate and tint tickets.

I'm sure a small fraction of them do along with other kinds of tickets. Doesn't mean the ticket given out isn't deserved. That's like saying just because OJ simpson got away with murder means we shouldn't try murderers.
Just because you had one dumb judge doesn't mean that the other ones are that easy to get by also. So stop generalizing. Also the court systems here in Alberta are very inconvenient... making a trip to the court room not even worth the time and money you lose from not going to work to fight a ticket.

CH0SiiN1
06-13-2012, 10:19 AM
I just bought a Borla catback.. I want my cats deleted.. will this be to loud? maybe I'll add a header too.. Oh well if so then Im fine with being a rebel lol!! dont like it.. buy some ear muffs

Thrizzl3
06-13-2012, 01:31 PM
I just bought a Borla catback.. I want my cats deleted.. will this be to loud? maybe I'll add a header too.. Oh well if so then Im fine with being a rebel lol!! dont like it.. buy some ear muffs

For more noise you're better off cutting out the resonator and the muffler. The cats are used for catching harmful fumes

CH0SiiN1
06-13-2012, 02:45 PM
For more noise you're better off cutting out the resonator and the muffler. The cats are used for catching harmful fumes

thx thrizz, great advice

MarkWB
06-14-2012, 11:32 AM
I'm sure a small fraction of them do along with other kinds of tickets. Doesn't mean the ticket given out isn't deserved. That's like saying just because OJ simpson got away with murder means we shouldn't try murderers.
Just because you had one dumb judge doesn't mean that the other ones are that easy to get by also. So stop generalizing. Also the court systems here in Alberta are very inconvenient... making a trip to the court room not even worth the time and money you lose from not going to work to fight a ticket.

Well I never even talked to the judge for any of my expired plate tickets. "I sold the car" was good enough to convince the prosecutor to go to the judge and drop the ticket prior to even being tried. I've heard of this happening with other non-moving violation tickets, even most of the speeding and stop sign/red light tickets get offered deals to plea guilty. Ie reduced fine/points + they dont name the speed you were going, or put "fail to yield" instead of "fail to obey stop sign/posted signage" or "fail to obey light/signal in controlled intersection" if you got red light/stop sign ticket. It's literally a line up of people with varying but similar excuses, and all of them have a right to a fair, and likely lengthy (aka expensive) trial. A court prosecutor would be fired if they attempted to go for the gonads on every single little ticket. They save money to fry the big fish, DUIs, speeding 40/50 over the limit, repeated red light/speeding offenders, not people who have a loud exhaust.

As for Alberta, you guys likely have a significantly lower population, and thus, less tickets being handed out overall. Probably less police overall too. Less court crowding means the courts have more time/money to fry you like a serial killer. Dare I tell you to stop generalizing? :chuckle It might be enforced more in AB, but if they ever bring this law to Ontario it's going to be useless. Even in AB I doubt they're going to pack courts full of loud exhaust drivers and throw the book at every single one of them. There'll be a couple of examples made, and after that they'll spend their budget elsewhere.