Tuition Prices - Are they on crack?

[Slade]

So I started a course (online) at Mohawk 2 years ago and decided I should get my lazy ass in gear and finish it..only to find out that the courses have gone from $125 each to $278!!! For online courses!!!

Just needed to vent...

[Impressive]

Try paying $7,000 a year tuition for full time University classes :loco

[Wes08M3]

Yup. My tuition this year is $7250 plus books and parking.

[Hyperion]

$15,000 + $400 books + $1500 Bunker gear rental + $300 uniform.
Come at me

[aZuMi]

Which university is $7k now? U of T?

[Impressive]

Which university is $7k now? U of T?

They all are pretty much.

I go to the University of Guelph personally.

[Wes08M3]

$15,000 + $400 books + $1500 Bunker gear rental + $300 uniform.
Come at me

How long is this program of yours?

[midnightfxgt]

Wait until you need to upgrade your skills.... $3000 for a few days is the norm lol.

[bhrm]

Even with OSAP....most grads dont' really realize OSAP is a debt....a big one! Probably biggest besides buying a house!

[Lockdown]

Yup. My tuition this year is $7250 plus books and parking.

Hasn't really gone up very much

[Wes08M3]

Hasn't really gone up very much

That's $500 more than it was compared to just last year.

It probably doesn't sound like much more but when living costs just keep going up its hard to swallow paying even more tuition every year.

[dave2010GT]

Try paying for your MBA......

[Wes08M3]

Even with OSAP....most grads dont' really realize OSAP is a debt....a big one! Probably biggest besides buying a house!

It's a big debt but it's not considered a "bad debt" to banks and other creditors.

[Lockdown]

That's $500 more than it was compared to just last year.

It probably doesn't sound like much more but when living costs just keep going up its hard to swallow paying even more tuition every year.

but not too much more than it was 10 years ago, considering inflation.
Sucks for sure when you are limited to the amount you can work during the school terms but it's really only a coffee a day

[Wes08M3]

but not too much more than it was 10 years ago, considering inflation.
Sucks for sure when you are limited to the amount you can work during the school terms but it's really only a coffee a day

True. But you have to pay tuition upfront so you have to get that $500 from somewhere.

I don't have time to work at all during school. We spent 10-12 hours everyday (weekends included) at school last year, either in class or doing homework.

[rzapata]

I paid roughly $6.5k per year back in my university days. I checked the tuition fees schedule and the range is now roughly $9k per year. Damn snakes!

[Lockdown]

It's tough no doubt. I worked full time when I was in school and rarely slept, and then two jobs in the summer.
10 hours a day isn't that much really though. There is still another 14, work 6, sleep 5 and travel a couple back and forth

[pwdunmore]

$15,000 + $400 books + $1500 Bunker gear rental + $300 uniform.
Come at me

That's crappy... I remember every year I went to school my tuition went up about $300, started at $6000(2008) a year and ended around $7300(2012). Just graduated too do thats god I don't have to deal with that anymore! That was for a college/university program... can't imagine what the states is like...

[Pereira11]

Athabasca online course was $600, $278 is peanuts. My tuition alone was about $6000 per year and this was 4 years ago

[rzapata]

...10 hours a day isn't that much really though. There is still another 14, work 6, sleep 5 and travel a couple back and forth

Sounds like my MW schedule back then...

[Wes08M3]

It's tough no doubt. I worked full time when I was in school and rarely slept, and then two jobs in the summer.
10 hours a day isn't that much really though. There is still another 14, work 6, sleep 5 and travel a couple back and forth

I get up at 7am to go to 8:30am class then go to a bunch more classes and do homework until about 11pm on average. So unless I was going to work from midnight until 4am and then sleep for 2 and a half hours every night, I don't see how I could work lol.

Sounds like you had a pretty crazy schedule. What program did you take?

EDIT: I guess we spent a lot longer at school than I thought haha. More like 15 hours a day.

[Hyperion]

How long is this program of yours?

1 year, 3 semesters straight.
1st semester is 5 days a week, 2nd is 3, 3rd is 2.

[Wes08M3]

1 year, 3 semesters straight.
1st semester is 5 days a week, 2nd is 3, 3rd is 2.

Seems like they really bend people over on some of the 1 year programs. That's a lot of money. It's still a lot less than a 4 or 5 year program overall but damn dumping 15k into tuition all at once must suck.

[mazdaspeedemon3]

i was paid to go to school lol


Try paying for your MBA......

where you doing that? Ryerson? j/w cuse a close friend is a projects co-ordinator for the MBA program at Ryerson

[k13]

mine was $11k/yr when I was last in school...

UofT school of continuing studies online courses are $700...

[FD22]

I'm paying around $7k for each term. That's right, that's for only 4 months at a time. That plus the cost of books and all other misc. expenses. Tuition just keeps getting higher and higher each term..

[rzapata]

where you doing that? Ryerson? j/w cuse a close friend is a projects co-ordinator for the MBA program at Ryerson

Interested.. Your friend has connection to the professors I assume?

[seelsy]

I pay $5,300 per semester, $10,600 a year plus books, parking and all that fun jazz

[MarkWB]

Apply for grants lol you can cut how much you pay by 20% by getting 80s, and there's lots of other grants too.

[FD22]

Apply for grants lol you can cut how much you pay by 20% by getting 80s, and there's lots of other grants too.

Unless you go to stupid Waterloo, where you need like 90+ to get any decent grants based solely on academics :(

[terapr0]

it's not an expense, it's an investment. In yourself. There are people on this forum who wouldnt blink an eye at the thought of spending $100,000+ on a car if they had the means, yet they scoff at 20-40k university education as an unpleasant nuisance. Now tell me which one of those "investments" will yield a greater return??

I've got about $25,000 in student debt left to pay off and it doesnt bother me at all. Shit it's like $330/month for the next 15yrs or something. Of course I wish it wasnt there, but it's still cheaper than my car payment and it got me a job that pays all the bills and then some. I'd have paid double for my education. Unlike a car it's never going to depreciate and I've already more than recouped my full investment after only 2 yrs. Could be worse. We could be paying American Icy League tuition lolz

[05Mazda3GT]

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[MarkWB]

it's not an expense, it's an investment. In yourself. There are people on this forum who wouldnt blink an eye at the thought of spending $100,000+ on a car if they had the means, yet they scoff at 20-40k university education as an unpleasant nuisance. Now tell me which one of those "investments" will yield a greater return??

But is school guaranteed to yield the return you expected? For all you know when you're done school the 40k you spent may be difficult to pay off when you don't get the job you expected. We no longer live in a society where schooling alone will land you a job, everyone wants experience and if you have none they'd sooner hire someone with a college diploma and 2 years experience than a university degree and none. This applies more and less with varying fields, but the bottom line is that school is an investment but not one that's any more of a guarantee than a car is. Your education depreciates in value just like a car, but industry experience never will.

[m_bisson]

I did 2 years in college and 3 years in uni and I'm making $25 an hour painting walls. Mind you, I still have 1 class left to graduate, but I could have had work like this right out of high school with zero post-secondary education.

[Wes08M3]

But is school guaranteed to yield the return you expected? For all you know when you're done school the 40k you spent may be difficult to pay off when you don't get the job you expected. We no longer live in a society where schooling alone will land you a job, everyone wants experience and if you have none they'd sooner hire someone with a college diploma and 2 years experience than a university degree and none. This applies more and less with varying fields, but the bottom line is that school is an investment but not one that's any more of a guarantee than a car is. Your education depreciates in value just like a car, but industry experience never will.

This really depends on the career you choose. if you pick something like the arts, then good luck... You pick something like I dunno nursing lets say, you're basically guaranteed to find work in your field.

And you're wrong if you think industry experience is better than education, in most cases. When I worked for an OEM supplier before coming to University, we had a guy who was with the company for 15+ years with nothing more than a grade 12 diploma and knew NOTHING but the few things he did on a regular basis. He was not trusted to do anything new because he did not have the proper technical skills or education. After the automotive "crisis" of 2008 he was demoted to QA because he was the least valuable to the company (but would've cost the company far too much to fire). Everyone with a good education stayed where they were. After a while when they started hiring again, they hired educated people such as myself and to this day he is still in his medoicre position.

Education pays in most fields. Especially in higher level careers.

[MarkWB]

This really depends on the career you choose. if you pick something like the arts, then good luck... You pick something like I dunno nursing lets say, you're basically guaranteed to find work in your field.

And you're wrong if you think industry experience is better than education, in most cases. When I worked for an OEM supplier before coming to University, we had a guy who was with the company for 15+ years with nothing more than a grade 12 diploma and knew NOTHING but the few things he did on a regular basis. He was not trusted to do anything new because he did not have the proper technical skills or education. After the automotive "crisis" of 2008 he was demoted to QA because he was the least valuable to the company (but would've cost the company far too much to fire). Everyone with a good education stayed where they were. After a while when they started hiring again, they hired educated people such as myself and to this day he is still in his medoicre position.

Education pays in most fields. Especially in higher level careers.

I get what you're saying, and education definitely pays off, but will it pay off as much as most expect? Probably not. You still gotta' start at the bottom, which might be a job for 15 an hour you could have landed going to college and taking courses for a degree down the road, or taking a grad certificate to move forward. And as we both mentioned, it's different in different fields. To do a certain kind of accounting, you NEED a certificate, so education is almost everything here, but in sales education may mean next to nothing as your work performance is what matters.

[Wes08M3]

I get what you're saying, and education definitely pays off, but will it pay off as much as most expect? Probably not. You still gotta' start at the bottom, which might be a job for 15 an hour you could have landed going to college and taking courses for a degree down the road, or taking a grad certificate to move forward. And as we both mentioned, it's different in different fields. To do a certain kind of accounting, you NEED a certificate, so education is almost everything here, but in sales education may mean next to nothing as your work performance is what matters.

Yup it really depends on the field. You just have to make good decisions when choosing a career path and hope that your education pays off.

I'll be pissed if I only make the same as I did as a college graduate after completing university lol. I don't expect it to happen though, based on average salaries I should make a considerable amount more. These are things people should look at when considering education, in my opinion anyway.

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Interested.. Your friend has connection to the professors I assume?

yep some more than others, he was a TA for a wile he still works for Ryerson indirectly currently he's on a Ryerson funded project called "Who Plus You" which connects students with employers and vise versa. he works more directly with the higher up than the professors

[mazdaspeedemon3]

now a days its more who you know then how much education you have lol connections first educations follows in second

[trulankan]

yep some more than others, he was a TA for a wile he still works for Ryerson indirectly currently he's on a Ryerson funded project called "Who Plus You" which connects students with employers and vise versa. he works more directly with the higher up than the professors

lol "Who Plus You" is such a poorly designed website i couldnt believe they put it out like that haha i tried using it back when I was looking for work and it stinks

[trulankan]

$250ish for an online course is not bad at all...some courses at Ryerson cost over $500 but its university courses anyway...college is always cheaper

[trulankan]

i paid about $6000 per year so $24,000 over 4 years (excluding textbooks and other costs). I just finished paying off my OSAP in May after graduating in 2010. I made some large monthly payments to avoid getting raped with interest by making the recommended monthly payments lol IMO it would have been cheaper going to college since I'm working in the IT field and u dont need it for it

[trulankan]

I did 2 years in college and 3 years in uni and I'm making $25 an hour painting walls. Mind you, I still have 1 class left to graduate, but I could have had work like this right out of high school with zero post-secondary education.

that sucks dude, $25/hr is not too bad (i'm making about the same in my field at entry level lol) but u should find something in ur field once u graduate or ur gonna be stuck doing that

[mazdaspeedemon3]

lol "Who Plus You" is such a poorly designed website i couldnt believe they put it out like that haha i tried using it back when I was looking for work and it stinks

yeah they pushed the release date too hard, politics got in the way and had to release what they had... doesn't mean everyone agreed with it but when theres large amounts of money involved people want to see progress, in hine sight the idea is there they just need to follow through with a more user friendly interface.

its kind of a catch 22 they need more students to sign up but without employers there to employ students it kind of hits a brick wall, and goes both ways

its a great idea they just need some big employers to step up and get the ball rolling, they need that incentive to get more students to sign up along with a more user friendly design. if they get that and everything pans out it has potential to be huge.

Edit: not only students but really anyone looking for a job, recent graduates MBA students etc.

[bubba1983]

ahhh college and the trades....*wipes hands clean* thank you government for paying my way thru school....oops!

[The Wolf]

University is insane, also much more of a risk than it once was. My brother got a kinesiology degree. At 80%, marks still weren't good enough to get into a chiropractic course. He then took a post-grad course to be an EMT... Oops, the are no paramedic jobs. Every time he even applies for an EMT position, it's another like $400.
So that's 6 years or so in school, like $50k in debt, and nothing to show for it.

Personally, I am absolutely relieved that I love working with my hands, and I can go to trade school FOR FREE and make money while I'm there.

[MarkWB]

University is insane, also much more of a risk than it once was. My brother got a kinesiology degree. At 80%, marks still weren't good enough to get into a chiropractic course. He then took a post-grad course to be an EMT... Oops, the are no paramedic jobs. Every time he even applies for an EMT position, it's another like $400.
So that's 6 years or so in school, like $50k in debt, and nothing to show for it.


This is why I'm glad I stopped school after college lol if anything people can always take an online grad certificate in human resources (through Ryerson or U of T, online too lol) down the road and have the experience under their belt too when they go apply for management jobs. I work with people who have degrees and do the same job as me, so a word for the wise to anyone whos still in school, start applying for field relative jobs now, you make money and you'll have an edge over the other 5000 people graduating from your program this year (and last year, and the year before that...) :P

And for the record, the tuition prices are ridiculous, and if they were on any drug it'd obviously be shrooms.

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Personally, I am absolutely relieved that I love working with my hands, and I can go to trade school FOR FREE and make money while I'm there.


ahhh college and the trades....*wipes hands clean* thank you government for paying my way thru school....oops!

hells yeah

[dentinger]

ahhh college and the trades....*wipes hands clean* thank you government for paying my way thru school....oops!

i have to pay all my schooling out of my pocket.

and it's $1000/year out here. double what it is in Ontario. keep in mind $1000/year is a 2 month course.

[Aitch]

Try paying for your MBA......


Try registering for the Heart for Hearth (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/heartforhearth/) event :)

[bubba1983]

i have to pay all my schooling out of my pocket.

and it's $1000/year out here. double what it is in Ontario. keep in mind $1000/year is a 2 month course.

damn, a grand for a block session? thats crazy compared to the what? $490 here...your employer doesn't reimburse all or a portion apon completion? mine paid up front, kinda like..here you go lil jonny...heres the money to pay for your schooling..have funnn

in your situation...worst case...3 grand over a what? 3-5 year period for all 3 levels of schooling.....joke!

[Lockdown]

Try registering for the Heart for Hearth (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/heartforhearth/) event :)

And boom goes the dynamite.
Centennial was pretty affordable but it doubled when I went to Ryerson and then I had a huge increase but significantly less in class time when I began my CGA. Took forever because there is a maximum of 2 courses at a time.
All my schooling after my CGA was on someone else's dime and I had a salary while in school while doing my apprenticeship as a millwright.

[RJzMazda3]

it's not an expense, it's an investment. In yourself. There are people on this forum who wouldnt blink an eye at the thought of spending $100,000+ on a car if they had the means, yet they scoff at 20-40k university education as an unpleasant nuisance. Now tell me which one of those "investments" will yield a greater return??

I've got about $25,000 in student debt left to pay off and it doesnt bother me at all. Shit it's like $330/month for the next 15yrs or something. Of course I wish it wasnt there, but it's still cheaper than my car payment and it got me a job that pays all the bills and then some. I'd have paid double for my education. Unlike a car it's never going to depreciate and I've already more than recouped my full investment after only 2 yrs. Could be worse. We could be paying American Icy League tuition lolz

Your 'investment' valuation is incorrect. The 25K you recouped in 2 years does not take your opportunity cost into factor. For argument say, lets say you could have earned 30K annually if you worked instead. In 4 years (avg undergrad time) you would have earned $120K. So in order to recover your 'investment', you'd be looking at more than 2 years.

[Wes08M3]

Your 'investment' valuation is incorrect. The 25K you recouped in 2 years does not take your opportunity cost into factor. For argument say, lets say you could have earned 30K annually if you worked instead. In 4 years (avg undergrad time) you would have earned $120K. So in order to recover your 'investment', you'd be looking at more than 2 years.

This is true but if you consider for example that you earn $50k after attending university compared to the $30k not going to university. By my calculation, it would take 7 years and 3 months to make up the lost earnings and student debt you incurred from attending university.

That sounds like a long time, but when you think big picture that only puts you at about 30 years old. So there's another 30+ working years where you make substantially more money. And that's not even taking into consideration that you tend to move up in a company faster when you have education, therefore your pay will increase exponentially.

[midnightfxgt]

This is true but if you consider for example that you earn $50k after attending university compared to the $30k not going to university. By my calculation, it would take 7 years and 3 months to make up the lost earnings and student debt you incurred from attending university.

That sounds like a long time, but when you think big picture that only puts you at about 30 years old. So there's another 30+ working years where you make substantially more money. And that's not even taking into consideration that you tend to move up in a company faster when you have education, therefore your pay will increase exponentially.

Assuming you make 20K more as a uni graduate than you do as a college one. I would doubt it's that high of a difference.... well at least in my line of work (IT) it is not.

Also - Do those calculations take into consideration that you will not see 20K more on a 20K raise, due to taxes of course ;)

[Impressive]

All of these calculations are entirely dependent on the fields of occupation that they focus on. In other words, people with a 2 year college program under their belt could easily be making as much if not more annually than a person with a double major in university. It just depends which majors/programs we are trying to compare here.

[MarkWB]

All of these calculations are entirely dependent on the fields of occupation that they focus on. In other words, people with a 2 year college program under their belt could easily be making as much if not more annually than a person with a double major in university. It just depends which majors/programs we are trying to compare here.

This is what I'm saying lol

[Wes08M3]

Assuming you make 20K more as a uni graduate than you do as a college one. I would doubt it's that high of a difference.... well at least in my line of work (IT) it is not.

Also - Do those calculations take into consideration that you will not see 20K more on a 20K raise, due to taxes of course ;)

I think what we were trying to compare there was an uneducated person (like high school diploma only) verses an educated person whether it be college or university. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect a 20k difference for someone who has any sort of post-secondary education compared to someone who doesn't. And no I didn't take taxes into account but I also didn't take exponential income growth into account either, for simplicity I figure they just cancel each other out.

Even in the case that you are suggesting (university vs. college) I think some professions you would make $20k more. Like mine for instance, as a engineering technologist I would make about $20k less if I never decided to get my P. Eng. You can't be an engineer without a degree. But it certainly is career specific.


All of these calculations are entirely dependent on the fields of occupation that they focus on. In other words, people with a 2 year college program under their belt could easily be making as much if not more annually than a person with a double major in university. It just depends which majors/programs we are trying to compare here.

I agree. That's why you have to do your research and decide whether it's worth it for your own career.

[terapr0]

I just know that with no degree I was making $32k/yr working at radioshack as an assistant manager right out of highschool....there were 40yr old guys making the same amount as me. It was pathetic and depressing. I quit and spent 5yrs at humber (1yr certificate & 4yr degree program) where I walked into a job that pays ~50k to start. I'll be making quite a bit more 5 or 10yrs from now if I work hard and continue learning. I couldnt have gotten this job without a degree.

The difference is that without a degree or diploma you have a very definitive ceiling to your earning potential (of course there are exceptions, but they're few & relatively far between), whereas with a degree you're only limited by your own potential and ambition. If you're willing to travel and work internationally there are ALWAYS opportunities in almost every field, and if you're a shameless salary whore you can jump around as much as you want, demanding more at each new position.

Of course there was nothing I learned in school that I couldnt have learned from the internet or the library, but it's the effort that really counts. Not pursuing an education or quiting half-way through is the easiest thing in the World. it takes real perserverance to stick with something, and I think that, more than anything, is where the value to a degree lies. It lets people know that you're capable of following through with challenges and wont quit when things get tough. It's an endurance test. I regret none of the hardships I endured while pursuing an education. I'm still paying for it and will continue to do so for many years. It's the best purchase I've ever made, or likely will ever make until I pay for my childrens schooling. Everything else depreciates and becomes obsolete - an education lasts forever and cant be taken away by anyone. Thats my opinion of the whole experience anyway...others may disagree.

[McGoldie]

Gotta spend money to make money.

[Tokic_o]

try $8,000 EACH term for university...for the past 4 years...

my OSAP is out the roof already...

[Ozil]

try $8,000 EACH term for university...for the past 4 years...

my OSAP is out the roof already...

which program?

[Burner]

I'm glad I never went to University. All but one of my high school friends that went to university couldn't find a job that paid half as much as I was already making 5 years after high school. At 28 I'm in my second home, have very little consumer debt (associated with buying things I needed for the new home and babies) and I'm qualified in a profession that makes upward of $100k per year. Most of my high school friends that went to university still live in their parents basement, work for $35-$40k/yr jobs, trying desperately to pay off $40k+ in student loans so they can start their lives.

What I don't understand is that these same people tell me all the time that they're planning on going back to school again! Seems like an evil cycle to me. School is just a business that's screwing a lot of people that don't have family wealth or the connections in the career that they're shooting for.

[Tokic_o]

which program?

Accounting at Waterloo

they basically give you co-op to take away all the money you can earn during those co-ops

[Akiba48]

$688 for 2 courses @ Ryerson Ted Rogers School of Management.

YE.

[Marta]

$8500 for a program from Sept-May
PLUS Books
:bang

Thank you, UofT.

[Ozil]

only $7,000/yr for me at U of T, :D

[Marta]

only $7,000/yr for me at U of T, :D

...lucky LOL

[Jackal]

$688 for 2 courses @ Ryerson Ted Rogers School of Management.

YE.
Heart for Hearth costs only $15 to register. Woot!

[hisakix]

Your education here is heavily subsidized by the government. There is another country in North America with world class post secondary institutions that charge $20,000 USD per school year for tuition towards an undergraduate program. During my time, I paid about $5,900 CAD each for 3 years of undergrad at UofT and then $25,000 CAD each year for 4 years of dental school. My professional program only cost $5,000/year more than an undergraduate program in the US. You do not even want me to list the yearly tuition American citizens pay for a professional program, I am just extremely thankful I was accepted into a Canadian institution. I am not stating if I believe the current tuition prices are fair, I am merely trying to put things into perspective.

[trulankan]

$688 for 2 courses @ Ryerson Ted Rogers School of Management.

YE.

TRSM whooo!

[trulankan]

try $8,000 EACH term for university...for the past 4 years...

my OSAP is out the roof already...

thats inanse...u better be making good money once u graduate lol

[bryansbestwax]

I was offered and few half scholarships from the states for golf a number of years back. 18000+ USD for one year. And that will half of it paid.

[London3]

Just finishing 4th year at UWO for Engineering, checked out first year tuition prices (as they need to declare them) $11,800 for a first year engineer for TUITION ONLY. thats no residence or books or anything. just wow.

[dentinger]

damn, a grand for a block session? thats crazy compared to the what? $490 here...your employer doesn't reimburse all or a portion apon completion?

well, when you compare what i make, to those out in Ontario, i can see the tuition increase.
we still get a $1000 grant for 1st, and 2nd year completion, nothing for 3rd, and $2000 for 4th year.

oh well. better than nothing.

[Akiba48]

Heart for Hearth costs only $15 to register. Woot!

lol random...

and I just registered :P

[zmz3]

I just know that with no degree I was making $32k/yr working at radioshack as an assistant manager right out of highschool....there were 40yr old guys making the same amount as me. It was pathetic and depressing. I quit and spent 5yrs at humber (1yr certificate & 4yr degree program) where I walked into a job that pays ~50k to start. I'll be making quite a bit more 5 or 10yrs from now if I work hard and continue learning. I couldnt have gotten this job without a degree.

The difference is that without a degree or diploma you have a very definitive ceiling to your earning potential (of course there are exceptions, but they're few & relatively far between), whereas with a degree you're only limited by your own potential and ambition. If you're willing to travel and work internationally there are ALWAYS opportunities in almost every field, and if you're a shameless salary whore you can jump around as much as you want, demanding more at each new position.

Of course there was nothing I learned in school that I couldnt have learned from the internet or the library, but it's the effort that really counts. Not pursuing an education or quiting half-way through is the easiest thing in the World. it takes real perserverance to stick with something, and I think that, more than anything, is where the value to a degree lies. It lets people know that you're capable of following through with challenges and wont quit when things get tough. It's an endurance test. I regret none of the hardships I endured while pursuing an education. I'm still paying for it and will continue to do so for many years. It's the best purchase I've ever made, or likely will ever make until I pay for my childrens schooling. Everything else depreciates and becomes obsolete - an education lasts forever and cant be taken away by anyone. Thats my opinion of the whole experience anyway...others may disagree.

Well said.

[highlineMotors]

So I started a course (online) at Mohawk 2 years ago and decided I should get my lazy ass in gear and finish it..only to find out that the courses have gone from $125 each to $278!!! For online courses!!!

Just needed to vent...

What course are you taking?

[Slade]

What course are you taking?

Webmasters Certificate..

[Aitch]

Just finishing 4th year at UWO for Engineering, checked out first year tuition prices (as they need to declare them) $11,800 for a first year engineer for TUITION ONLY. thats no residence or books or anything. just wow.

Sweet, another engineer! Make sure to register for Heart for Hearth and we'll have a mini-engineering section. :)

[Aitch]

Well said.


You too. Time to register :)

[Aitch]

Dang, terapr0 I see you're in this thread too. Register dammit!

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Dang, terapr0 I see you're in this thread too. Register dammit!

Yeah we knows where you live! :devil