GT3071R TWIN SCROLL

[mikey32235]

Has anybody put this turbo in? I've heard amazing reviews and i want to upgrade mine to this. i have the 3' down pipe to complete the kit too. if anyone has suggestions let me know.

[Booostin]

Has anybody put this turbo in? I've heard amazing reviews and i want to upgrade mine to this. i have the 3' down pipe to complete the kit too. if anyone has suggestions let me know.

Just having a 3' downpipe doesnt mean you can install the upgraded turbo. You will need a bunch of other parts before you can make the upgrade.

Read this:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f498/big-turbo-what-do-you-need-91114/

[mikey32235]

i pretty much have all of that done, except the fuel and manifold.. would it be safe if i ran a big turbo without these?

[Impressive]

i pretty much have all of that done, except the fuel and manifold.. would it be safe if i ran a big turbo without these?

You'll need an upgraded fuel pump system to reach Stage2 on a stock turbo, so you'll definitely be needing the fuelling upgrades if you are considering a BT build.

Also, DP with no HPFP = zoom zoom boom.

[fywdyl]

So you make a thread about your car stuttering, and your very next thread is BT upgrade?
Buy loki's BT, he won't be installing it anytime soon.

[Booostin]

canada man's protege

[Snotrocket]

What are your mods?? Twin scroll is a whole new ball game with lots of custom work... if you want a bolt on solution go with ATP...

[mikey32235]

lol i fixed the stuttering it was a bad spark plug. whats a good hpfp ?

[Fack_Dude]

The walboro 250 pump bro. Its top notch shit.

[MPS]

Haha

[Kris"Speed3"CWP]

The walboro 250 pump bro. Its top notch shit.
watch out for the fake Walbro's from China!

[Booostin]

Guys, he actually said he was going to get a walboro fuel pump in another thread so lets give him the proper info.

OP You need to order a cp-e fuel pump or fuel pump internals.

http://www.edgeautosport.com/categories/Mazdaspeed-3/2007%252d2009-Gen1-/Engine/Fuel/

[mikey32235]

thanks man! that one looks proper. i think I'm going to get that one.

[loki]

Hehe

[mikey32235]

sorry if this is a stupid question, why is one more expensive than the other? do they perform at the same level?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/VPN-GSL392/

http://www.edgeautosport.com/cp-e-disi-2-3-hpfpump/

[Booostin]

Fast dude was just messing around with you when he told you to use a walbro pump. Everyone either uses the CP-E fuel pump or autotech internals.

CPE pumps are tested by CPE before they are sent out to the buyer but the autotech internals have to be installed yourself or by a mechanic and have no guarantee.

[mikey32235]

oh aha thats what i thought.. so if i send in my core i save myself 350$ it says? wow lol. so do you get better results from a dp or overall with an hpfp from cp-e

[Booostin]

oh aha thats what i thought.. so if i send in my core i save myself 350$ it says? wow lol. so do you get better results from a dp or overall with an hpfp from cp-e

Well they go have in hand. The DP will allow your exhaust gases to flow easier and in turn require more fuel which puts a greater demand on the stock fuel pump. In order to keep up with these demands it is highly recommended that you upgrade your fuel pump to save yourself from future disaster (blowing your engine).

The aftermarket fuel pumps can increase fuel pressue 150-200psi+ over stock pump.

[mikey32235]

how long do you think my car can last with a stock fuel pump with 3" dp?

[Booostin]

Well I ran with a aftermarket downpipe with stock fuel pump for 2 months without any issues and my fuel pressure held 1750-1800psi but you constantly have to monitor your fuel pressure with the accessport just incase it fails when you go WOT and blow your motor. With the fuel pump upgrade you have less headache and stress knowing your fuel pump is safe.

At the end of the day it is your call but your pump might be fine for a week or it could last months... nobody knows.

[mikey32235]

good to know. did u buy a new core or send in your old one? how much?

[Booostin]

good to know. did u buy a new core or send in your old one? how much?

Most people send in the core to get some money back.

I ended up going with the autotech internals. You need to take apart your stock pump to upgrade the internals but it was alot cheaper.

[mikey32235]

where do i get one from?

[Booostin]

Try using the link from edgeautosport that I posted up top.

[mikey32235]

this one I'm assuming? http://www.edgeautosport.com/autotech-hi-volume-fuel-pump-upgrade-kit/ yes a lot cheaper for sure!

[Booostin]

Yup that is the one I ended up going with.

[mikey32235]

was it hard to install? any extra advice?

[Booostin]

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f33/camshaft-driven-fuel-pump-internals-upgrade-11215/

[mikey32235]

thanks man!

[Lockdown]

Depending on how you do the install, it can take you around an hour or 3 hours HAHA

With breaks and chatting and going over a few other things on my car, mine took 2.5 and it was extremely hot that day, so we weren't rushing.
It could be done in a hour and a half with basic hand tools if its just a re/re of the pump. I can not comment on the internals install but it seems fairly straight forward.

[mikey32235]

thanks for the advice everyone

[Snotrocket]

Who's installing all of this for you? Where do you plan on getting it tuned?

[mikey32235]

the gauges i have a guy who is good with wires, firewalls, fishing etc. i spoke to him he's gonna do that for me. and I'm going to be installing the dp and fuel pump myself. i work at canadian tire major mac and 404 if anyone ever needs something i can get u 10% off of parts and 20% off labor. I'm a service advisor lol...

[Snotrocket]

the gauges i have a guy who is good with wires, firewalls, fishing etc. i spoke to him he's gonna do that for me. and I'm going to be installing the dp and fuel pump myself. i work at canadian tire major mac and 404 if anyone ever needs something i can get u 10% off of parts and 20% off labor. I'm a service advisor lol...

And how about your tune?

[mikey32235]

theres a place in newmarket called simones performance... and another down the strip but i can't remember the name.. anyone have a good place?

[Turok]

the gauges i have a guy who is good with wires, firewalls, fishing etc. i spoke to him he's gonna do that for me. and I'm going to be installing the dp and fuel pump myself. i work at canadian tire major mac and 404 if anyone ever needs something i can get u 10% off of parts and 20% off labor. I'm a service advisor lol...

I need a vise, the 5" one :D When is it going on sale and can you get 10% off the sale price? :)

[Snotrocket]

MSpeed is the only company local I would trust with my mazdaspeed.

[Turok]

MSpeed is the only company local I would trust with my mazdaspeed.

+1 totally agree on this one.

[mikey32235]

wheres mspeed located? and yes i can get 10% off the sale price... unless its like a display open item then no... I've asked so many times about products and when they go on sale but they don't tell anyone. corp sends the flyers out to the head of the store like a few days before it goes on sale. so i never know haha. but yes %10 over sale price

[Snotrocket]

Contact them in the sponsors section.

[Snotrocket]

Are you still planning on doing a twin scroll setup? You will need a custom manifold and custom downpipe for this set up.

[mikey32235]

yea but not now, i wanna build and upgrade pretty much everything before i do that to make sure its running high boost safely

[Fack_Dude]

sorry if this is a stupid question, why is one more expensive than the other? do they perform at the same level?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/VPN-GSL392/

http://www.edgeautosport.com/cp-e-disi-2-3-hpfpump/

Bro. The pumps are for two different types of engines and the one you need is the cp-e pump. And no one is selling them used.

[mikey32235]

yea yea i got it now, figured it out a while ago haha. thanks

[Snotrocket]

yea yea i got it now, figured it out a while ago haha. thanks

Believing him in the first place suggests you may not be ready to go BT yet anyway lol.

[Booostin]

^^^^ That may be true but..

Lots of misinformed people upgrade shit or drive high performance vehicles but it doesnt help when we start giving new members the wrong information in the first place and confuse them.

[fywdyl]

OP, you owe Booostin big time. You should take him out for a beer or something.

[Turok]

OP, you owe Booostin big time. You should take him out for a beer or something.

Ya seriously.. Booostin has been straight up with you

[Fobio]

OP, you owe Booostin big time. You should take him out for a beer or something.

+1

...btw..."or something" usually means BJ or HJ in these parts...


Contact them in the sponsors section.

Thanks Mike! OP has gotten in contact with MSpeed and we're working things out. =)

[Fack_Dude]

^^^^ That may be true but..

Lots of misinformed people upgrade shit or drive high performance vehicles but it doesnt help when we start giving new members the wrong information in the first place and confuse them.

Maybe the new members should stop posting wtb ads in every forum and instead do research first.

[Snotrocket]

^^^^ That may be true but..

Lots of misinformed people upgrade shit or drive high performance vehicles but it doesnt help when we start giving new members the wrong information in the first place and confuse them.


All im saying is going BT on our cars is more then just upgrading getting a tune and driving... Monitoring and understanding is an ongoing process and just as important...

OP spend this winter reading as much info as possible on MSF keep your eyes open for Seminars put on by MSpeed.

[Booostin]

All im saying is going BT on our cars is more then just upgrading getting a tune and driving... Monitoring and understanding is an ongoing process and just as important...

OP spend this winter reading as much info as possible on MSF keep your eyes open for Seminars put on by MSpeed.

Agreed

[Booostin]

Maybe the new members should stop posting wtb ads in every forum and instead do research first.

Ya but we have all been there at some point.

[Snotrocket]

Ya but we have all been there at some point.

And every one of us was flamed until we figured out spoon feeding isnt going to happen.

[Booostin]

There is always someone willing to help ;)

[mikey32235]

sorry guys I'm just worried about screwing something up so i like to ask a lot of questions before i do anything major. i do research as well but i like to ask on the forum as well.

Booostin has been great help with all of my questions, thanks bro.

[Fobio]

There is always someone willing to help ;)

...and willing to provide both correct or incorrect info. Just cuz there's info out there, doesn't mean it applies.

It is always best to read and decide for yourself. In this instance other than guiding him from doing the wrong things,rather than say, explain to him why twin scroll won't work...and we know how tedious that explanation will be and none of us are expected to deliver the same msg AD NAUSEAM for the uninitiated; that's what MSF is for.. You could've just as easily spoon-fed the wrong info, as demonstrated by Fack_Dude, as the rest of us would be pissed to have to correct everything.

Nobody should spoon feed. Your information might be wrong. Nobody should expect to be spoon fed, as the information might be wrong.

Teaching a man how to fish is the NATOR way. Spoon feeding and expected to be spoon fed is very much frowned upon by those who have garnered their technical know-how by learning it themselves, and can thus become a contributing member of NATOR. To the OP and anyone else, I refer you to the recent discussion about NATOR.

[fywdyl]

You may have skipped over this thread, but it basically can answer all of your questions regarding modding the MS3.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?60967-MS3-Mods-Directory-Must-Know-information

[mikey32235]

thank you fywdyl, fobio, booosted, snot rocket for your help. much appreciated

[loki]

epic

[Mty Mous]

For those of you with HPFP Internals, where did you get it installed?

[Booter22]

For those of you with HPFP Internals, where did you get it installed?

seems most go to jimmy, install it themselves. or go to the nator days.

[Mty Mous]

Ok cool ... planning on taking it to Jimmy too ... just wanted to know if others have, and how things turned out (not that I'm doubting his work, just curious on my part of outcome is all).

[MarineMazda]

Not to re hash a thread but I am currently running GT3076 Twinscroll on my speed 6 and would be willing to discuss with you the pros of running this turbo and what is involved in doing it. I am a big believer in getting away from the ATP hot side and going with a common flange style. Feel free to send me a PM and we can discuss this further

[captobvious75]

Why not just post the info so everyone can see?

[CelestSpeed3]

His setup is on a Speed6 and if you wanted to do this on a Speed3 it would be entirely custom. His intension would be to "show" you what you would be up against and if it would be worth it.

[BlueStreak]

Just saw this now.

Twin scroll on a GT3071 is an absolute waste of money. Our engines can spool this turbo so fast in single scroll that it'll surge if you're not careful with wastegate management.

[MarineMazda]

I agree with Celeste and BlueStreak. My setup is on a speed 6 and GT3076 that being said there is a speed3 running a top mount setup in the states the is entirely custom! My intention was to assist those who where interested in Twincroll versus the ATP hot side or even the single scroll hot side vs. the ATP hot side. It was not meant to be Twinscroll is the be all and end all just a learning lesson.

MY car will be available for the next week to 'Show" you what is involved. but after that she is going under the knife :D

[loki]

*crickets chirping*

[CelestSpeed3]

His motor will be built before your turbo is taken off the furnace.

[BlueStreak]

pwned

[loki]

His motor will be built before your turbo is taken off the furnace.

that's fine with me. Might even sell it.

[fywdyl]

that's fine with me. Might even sell it.

Why are you selling your furnace?

[Fack_Dude]

that's fine with me. Might even sell it.

That's what you said ten years ago.

[loki]

That's what you said ten years ago.

back when you were 40 :)

[Fack_Dude]

back when you were 40 :)

At least I'm debt free. ;)

[loki]

At least I'm debt free. ;)

so am I my friend

[Fack_Dude]

At least I'm debt free. ;)

My properties are paid for in full. ;)

[loki]

My properties are paid for in full. ;)

I hate you