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Wayne
09-28-2012, 09:57 PM
I need help. I know very little about cars.
Again my rear tires are worn on the inside. My 4th set of rears in 100,000 KM.
I have had my rear shocks replaced at 88,000 Km, replaced rear trailing arm bushings at 96,000 Km
My tires are Bridgestone g019. The tires are from a tire dealer not Mazda and were what the dealer recommended.
Was suggested to install 4 Michelin Defender tires which will last and solve this problem.
I am not convinced this is the answer.
Reason for this is they are a commuter tire with softer rubber than the Brigestones.
I can just continue buying 2 Bridgestones, moving front to back whenever I need them.

What is the answer?
Thanks for any information and personal experience.
I cannot be the only person with this problem

tmpz
09-28-2012, 10:02 PM
Did you ever get an alignment? If your car isn't straight then it starts to wear the tires unevenly.

Are you lowered?

aris
09-28-2012, 11:01 PM
Did you ever get an alignment? If your car isn't straight then it starts to wear the tires unevenly.

Are you lowered?


An aligment ain't going to shit.


if you want to prevent your tires from wearing on the inside get adjustable camber kits and set camber at 0... I did this to my car and my sister in laws car and now tires don't wear

Wayne
09-29-2012, 09:06 AM
I am not lowered, yes to alignments.
What are adjustable camber kits, how much, where do you get them, who installs them

aris
09-29-2012, 11:09 AM
I am not lowered, yes to alignments.
What are adjustable camber kits, how much, where do you get them, who installs them


The factory camber kits are non adjustable so our rear wheels sit /\ with the camber kits you can adjust it so the wheels will sit | |

Anyone who sells aftermarket parts will sell them.. any garage can install them

You want

Eibach camber kits part # 5.67420K

krimsalt
09-29-2012, 12:26 PM
An aligment ain't going to shit.


if you want to prevent your tires from wearing on the inside get adjustable camber kits and set camber at 0... I did this to my car and my sister in laws car and now tires don't wear

Bogus. If adjustable camber kits were to prevent tires from wearing, all new cars would come with adjustable camber kits.

yes to alignment

McGuyver_3
09-29-2012, 02:19 PM
Your an idiot

I am sorry but you are incorrect. Alignments will cause the tires to wear out. Often times the camber is NOT to blame. The toe is your most important setting. On the 3s the rear adjustment does both camber and toe. My suggestion to OP is to take the car to an alignment specialist shop and have an alignment done.
At OP has the ca ever been in any kind of rear end collision?

aris
09-29-2012, 02:29 PM
Even the dealer in Belleville adds aftermarket camber kits now to solve the problem.

but hey what do I know... Camber kits solved my problem and my sister in laws car and my brother has installed them on few other Mazda 3 cause of this issue.


but if you all think aligment will fix the problem go a head... But I'm telling you camber kits then go for an aligment and have the camber set at 0 will fix it.



i going to unsubscribe to this thread now... Have nice day everyone :p

Impressive
09-29-2012, 02:33 PM
Even the dealer in Belleville adds aftermarket camber kits now to solve the problem.

but hey what do I know... Camber kits solved my problem and my sister in laws car and my brother has installed them on few other Mazda 3 cause of this issue.


but if you all think aligment will fix the problem go a head... But I'm telling you camber kits then go for an aligment and have the camber set at 0 will fix it.



i going to unsubscribe to this thread now... Have nice day everyone :p

I've been experiencing uneven wear on my tires and have done a few alignments and camber adjustments but nothing seems to do the trick. I'm going to take it into Altech soon I guess for one final alignment and if that doesn't settle things, I'll be buying adjustable camber arms before I put my winter tires on.

McGuyver_3
09-29-2012, 03:31 PM
lets put it this way. I ran -3 degrees camber in the front with my camber plates and had the toe at proper specs. I ran 2 seasons this way and had minimal camber wear. Please keep in mind that -3degrees is way out of spec. unless something is bent on your car causing the camber to be out heavily then your toe is to blame. if your toe is to much negative or positive then the tires are pointed in the wrong direction and fighting the forward motion of the car meaning your tires are dragging across the ground rather then turning.
When going for an alignment always have a full tank as this also plays a roll when aligning a car
If you drive with heavy weight in the trunk then leave the weight in the back or have people in the car alot find a place that will put sand bags in the car as this all plays a roll

Wayne
09-30-2012, 01:21 PM
The alignment was checked Friday and was good.
Mazda also said part of the problem is the tires on the car can only be rotated back to front, and should be able to rotate to all tires.
Tire shop said tires are only rotated front to back

McGuyver_3
09-30-2012, 03:44 PM
It all depends on the tires that you have on the car. If they are directional then front to back can only work. Crossing tires for rotation is mainly only done when you have alignment issues in regards to pulling while driving straight. If you have staggered tires(wider in the rear then the front) then you cannot rotate tires at all. Have you had an alignment check elsewhere or always the same place?

Wayne
09-30-2012, 04:13 PM
I have had alignments at 2 places. All 4 tires are the same size

McGuyver_3
09-30-2012, 06:58 PM
has the car been in any kind of rear end collision? Have any of the shops given you a printout of before and after specs of the alignment?

The Wolf
09-30-2012, 06:58 PM
I've been experiencing uneven wear on my tires and have done a few alignments and camber adjustments but nothing seems to do the trick. I'm going to take it into Altech soon I guess for one final alignment and if that doesn't settle things, I'll be buying adjustable camber arms before I put my winter tires on.

Our cars come with negative camber stock, and toe-in stock for handling reasons. If the tire wear bothers you that much that you're willing to go 0 degrees of camber, save your money and have the alignment tech set your toe to 0 degrees. Problem will be solved and you will have an extra $200 in your pocket.

Wayne
09-30-2012, 07:04 PM
no collisions at all, plus no print outs of alignments

McGuyver_3
09-30-2012, 07:12 PM
I would ask for the printouts as this way you will see what the specs are supposed to be and what they are as without those papers you are simply relying on what they are saying. I am not saying they are not honest but if they are not giving you the printouts almost sounds like they are tryng to cover something up.

Wayne
10-02-2012, 10:46 PM
I would like to thank you all that replied.
After much thought I am having cambers kits installed.
Thanks

MrCantrell
10-03-2012, 11:39 AM
I was going to ask about the rotation too. That's a whole lot of money spent on tires!

Impressive
10-04-2012, 03:05 PM
Our cars come with negative camber stock, and toe-in stock for handling reasons. If the tire wear bothers you that much that you're willing to go 0 degrees of camber, save your money and have the alignment tech set your toe to 0 degrees. Problem will be solved and you will have an extra $200 in your pocket.

Don't get me wrong I don't give a **** about my summers...But I did purchase brand new WS-70 winter tires at the end of last winter, so I don't want those to wear unevenly. It is mostly my front suspension that is causing me problems and the outer part of the tire seems to be wearing faster than the inside. That would be a toe issue wouldn't it?

highlineMotors
10-04-2012, 03:14 PM
I need help. I know very little about cars.
Again my rear tires are worn on the inside. My 4th set of rears in 100,000 KM.
I have had my rear shocks replaced at 88,000 Km, replaced rear trailing arm bushings at 96,000 Km
My tires are Bridgestone g019. The tires are from a tire dealer not Mazda and were what the dealer recommended.
Was suggested to install 4 Michelin Defender tires which will last and solve this problem.
I am not convinced this is the answer.
Reason for this is they are a commuter tire with softer rubber than the Brigestones.
I can just continue buying 2 Bridgestones, moving front to back whenever I need them.

What is the answer?
Thanks for any information and personal experience.
I cannot be the only person with this problem

Are these the Bridgestone Potenza G019? Are the tires cupped and worn unevenly? If so, they are common on these types of tires. I've seen so many vehicles with this type of tires with the same issues...cupped, uneven wear and noisy as hell when driving. They say it's caused the vehicle's shocks and struts, but I think that's bogus. I've seen too many of these problems on the Potenza G019 to be blaming the shocks and struts.

McGuyver_3
10-04-2012, 06:49 PM
Don't get me wrong I don't give a **** about my summers...But I did purchase brand new WS-70 winter tires at the end of last winter, so I don't want those to wear unevenly. It is mostly my front suspension that is causing me problems and the outer part of the tire seems to be wearing faster than the inside. That would be a toe issue wouldn't it?


You are complaining about fronts wearing out OP is complaining about rears. Have you ever had any front end work done not related to alignments?

Impressive
10-04-2012, 08:28 PM
You are complaining about fronts wearing out OP is complaining about rears. Have you ever had any front end work done not related to alignments?

Besides like 4 alignments the answer would have to be no. No accidents and I don't hit curbs or anything that would throw my suspension off either ever so I really have no clue what may be causing it.

McGuyver_3
10-05-2012, 01:37 AM
when you look at the front shock towers with the hood open do they look rounded where the shocks are mounted to the body? Its easier to tell if the shocks themselves have threaded rod and have locking nuts instead of the bolts that mazda decided to use. Also are you sure everything in the front end is tight and nothing is worn out? I just had a car at work the other day with both front outer tie rods having play in them and the outside edge of the tires were feathered. Do you notice any vibrations in the steering wheel anywhere between 60-70ish km/h and up? Could also be your lower front control arm rear bushings. If you jab the brakes really hard at slow speeds you will feel and or hear a clunk. If you visually inspect them they will be torn. If you go for a simple alignment nothing will really get checked over prior to. Because the rack is a drive on style hoist your wheels will never be dangling to get checked over. Could be bad hub/wheel bearing if they are to the point were they are so loose they are ready to fall off. I had this happen on my 2010 sedan. It made terrible clunking noises as it was juggling around pretty good. Less likely but still possible you may have a bent shock. This one is VERY unlikely but I have still seen it before a bent subframe

Impressive
10-05-2012, 03:39 PM
I get no vibrations or anything (only when braking from 120km/h or so, but that's from my rotors)

The car does pull slightly to the right. I know Altech specializes in this stuff so I figure as long as they can get my car's steering straight and an alignment done the winter tires likely won't wear out like my current summers.

McGuyver_3
10-05-2012, 06:41 PM
Get the front end checked out. Pullig to the right could be road crown which is inevitable. I would still have the front end checked out regardless. If you had that many alignments and they are continuing to feather the way they are then something must be off.