Maximum whp and trq on N/A MZ3 ?

[Simon99]

Hi guys :) Sorry if that as already been asked, but I couldnt find it ... If I were to put all bolts and basically all possible upgrades without turboing or switching to a speed, what could I get out of my 2.3 Hatchback ? Is 200 whp possible ? :S Thanks alot :)

[stevenma188]

Short story: no.

Long story: With basic bolt-on mods, you might get UP TO ~20HP. Keep in mind that the MZ3 is ~130WHP stock. That being said, more extreme N/A mods (ie cams, stroker, etc etc) will yield higher gains.

[Ozil]

yeah, not much you can do to n/a mazda3 unfortunately...

[Jackal]

As they said no. Get the big three: cbe, headers, and intake and you'll see some gains in performance and a better sound. It's still a pretty peppy car that's responsive and fun to drive.

There is a tuned gen 2 sedan that's been piggyback tuned and he got an added 10 hp to his 2.5L engine. He's close to 180hp. Check out member's ride "Kiyomi".

[Hyperion]

Short story: no.

Long story: With basic bolt-on mods, you might get UP TO ~20HP. Keep in mind that the MZ3 is ~130WHP stock. That being said, more extreme N/A mods (ie cams, stroker, etc etc) will yield higher gains.

They aren't stock 130, my 2.0 is 148 hp

[Jackal]

They aren't stock 130, my 2.0 is 148 hp

+1
148hp/135 hp torque

[3GFX]

They're discussing wheel horsepower versus crank.

A 200 whp NA mazda 3 is a big ask considering that'd be about 235 @ the crank.

Cosworth makes some race ready engines that run the same block (and same head I believe) right out of the box. It's actually a duratec motor for the focus which is essentially the same as a Mazda 3 but the cams are different (Mazda's are variable on the exhaust I believe). It's a great thought, and I'm sure with some new cams and pistons you'd see some great results but with the money you'd spend, a bolt on turbo kit would be much more worth you time and money.

[Rob23]

They aren't stock 130, my 2.0 is 148 hp


+1
148hp/135 hp torque

isn't that the brake horsepower? hes talking wheel horsepower.

[Jackal]

They're discussing wheel horsepower versus crank.

A 200 whp NA mazda 3 is a big ask considering that'd be about 235 @ the crank.

Cosworth makes some race ready engines that run the same block (and same head I believe) right out of the box. It's actually a duratec motor for the focus which is essentially the same as a Mazda 3 but the cams are different (Mazda's are variable on the exhaust I believe). It's a great thought, and I'm sure with some new cams and pistons you'd see some great results but with the money you'd spend, a bolt on turbo kit would be much more worth you time and money.

Here's another thread on whp:
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?20149-Mazda-3-Sport-GT-151-41-FWHp-150-01-FWTq/page2

[bubba1983]

20hp to the wheel is very attainable....i can attest to that with just bolt on's....the big 3 I/H/E gives you that

[Simon99]

20hp to the wheel is very attainable....i can attest to that with just bolt on's....the big 3 I/H/E gives you that

Thanks to all the replies :) I guess I'll start with these, and set my goal at around 160-170 whp with more in-depth mods after that :) Thank you very much !

[CelestSpeed3]

The answer to your question is based on another question, what's your budget?

You can probably get somewhere around 275whp fully NA if you are ready to spend the money.

[Simon99]

The answer to your question is based on another question, what's your budget?

You can probably get somewhere around 275whp fully NA if you are ready to spend the money.

Budget ? Around 3K

[Hyperion]

Budget ? Around 3K

Not even in the same ball park

[CelestSpeed3]

Sadly no, maybe around $30,000.

Cosworth prepped engine and a Haltech or Motec standalone would be what you would need that that point.


The biggest issue with the 3 right now is tuning. The parts have been out for a long time. The lack of support regarding tuning comes from the fact that there is a Mazdaspeed3. People who want a fast 3 buy the Speed. So the aftermarket puts the effort into the Speed. There are other advantages to the turbo as well since you typically get a lot more out of it with doing a lot less. If you spend $3000 on engine parts for your 3 you may barely hit 200whp. You spend $3000 in a Speed3 and you are looking somewhere at an extra 50whp. I would really love to see the NA 3's come into their own which is why I helped Justin with the tuner. If everything works out well with it you may be able to achieve your goals while spending a lot less.

[Simon99]

So I guess headers, exhaust and intake is my only real option to see and feel decent powergains .. :(

[Impressive]

If you come up with a couple extra grand you could boost your 3 and see more significant power gains...plus you'd be part of a club with only a few local members (boosted MZ3s)

[Chris222]

Well, there's always other options. You could put nitrous on it but it's not cheap, and at that price range, I'd just go FI. You could also put a supercharger on it, but it's at the cost of a turbo kit. Another route would be, to get I/H/E then buy a good METH kit with a fail safe device. Then find a piggyback to use like the Haltech FX10 or the PCS XFC and have someone do a custom tune for you with the METH that will get installed. This is the route that I'm seriously considering.

[zzz3]

get 30 shot bruh. stock internals can handle it.

[silverstarmazda]

a gajillion to the back bitches. isnt nos outlawed on street legal cars? plus, where u gonna refill it?

[Chris222]

hahahaha I wasn't telling him to put nitrous on his 3. I was simply putting the options on the table. As far as i know, nitrous isn't allowed in a street car. But that hasn't stopped people. Again, i'm not suggesting that you do this. There's also light weight pullies that you can buy. Look up SR Motorsports. They say that it gives you 8-11hp but who knows. In my opinion, just do suspension mods or if you do engine mods, just do I/H/E. You'll be a lot happier. The 3 doesn't have a good aftermarket for it. The speed on the other hand does. The 3 is an econobox made to compete with the civic, not a power beast. I've done I/H/E hypertech tune, and a godspeed intake manifold. Now, where i'm sitting, there isn't much more I can do without tearing open the block. I estimate that I'm sitting at 150whp. That's not a whole lot. Would i do it again, ya probably, the sound it makes at redline is so full filling. My goal has been 200hp to the crank. I'll get there, but it won't be cost effective. 200whp is possible by going high compression, cams, intake manifold etc. But 200hp to the crank is much more feasible. Good luck

[taz4432]

Nitrous is completely legal on a street car, but not legal for use on the streets. That is to say, you can drive around with a nitrous kit installed on your car, but cannot use it on the streets and the bottle MUST be disconnected from the lines, otherwise there are huge fines involved.

Nitrous, turbo, supercharging...you're going to spend way more money than it's worth to not gain a whole lot without a full engine build with the proper components/internals. Besides...I wouldn't want to use the crappy plastic intake manifold in a boosted setup...that's just asking for trouble.

[silverstarmazda]

balance shaft delete is also something we can do. its cheap ($35 last time i saw) and its pretty straight forward to do. basically lowering rotational mass of any spinning item on the car will gain a bit of performance acceleration wise. i always say your not making power unless you pay BIG money. and if you dont, you might as well free up power from what the car parts take from the engine.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

crankshaft delete is also something we can do. its cheap ($35 last time i saw) and its pretty straight forward to do. basically lowering rotational mass of any spinning item on the car will gain a bit of performance acceleration wise. i always say your not making power unless you pay BIG money. and if you dont, you might as well free up power from what the car parts take from the engine.

i'm pretty sure if the engine has no crankshaft, the car's not going anywhere.

[silverstarmazda]

i'm pretty sure if the engine has no crankshaft, the car's not going anywhere.

whoops, i meant balance shaft delete :tomato

[Booter22]

a gajillion to the back bitches. isnt nos outlawed on street legal cars? plus, where u gonna refill it?

performance imporvements will fill up the nitrous tanks.. :rolleyes not like i know or anything.. :) or at least they used to not long ago.

[Kiyomi]

LOLZ. do not go the nitrous route... it will wear out ur stock engine much quiker after continual use and its illegal. as for the lightweight pullies, ive heard issues from the sr made ones (ex, the water/coolant pump not working properly). be wary. as for the balance shaft delete. its in there for a reason. imo, do not take that out, unless you are willing to live with getting a new engine much sooner. ask shu about that :D.

dont take shortcuts, it will get you in the end.

as for the godspeed manifold. its a rip from the cosworth one but cheaper. have not seen any dyno runs or pulls to show the difference, very skeptical as to how much actual whp it adds(I believe one of the reasons why wingzero got rid of his)... although in theory, it should work in the higher rpms. not sure id be putting that on anytime soon, as the stock afr's before open loop seem to like to stay around 14.5' -1. adding more air after the maf sensor might be doing harm and running lean during daily driving?

like many have said, get a speed, or if you are determined to have a n/a car, start of with some nice simple i/h/e and see if you like it.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

LOLZ. do not go the nitrous route... it will wear out ur stock engine much quiker after continual use and its illegal. as for the lightweight pullies, ive heard issues from the sr made ones (ex, the water/coolant pump not working properly). be wary. as for the balance shaft delete. its in there for a reason. imo, do not take that out, unless you are willing to live with getting a new engine much sooner. ask shu about that :D.

dont take shortcuts, it will get you in the end.

as for the godspeed manifold. its a rip from the cosworth one but cheaper. have not seen any dyno runs or pulls to show the difference, very skeptical as to how much actual whp it adds(I believe one of the reasons why wingzero got rid of his)... although in theory, it should work in the higher rpms. not sure id be putting that on anytime soon, as the stock afr's before open loop seem to like to stay around 14.5' -1. adding more air after the maf sensor might be doing harm and running lean during daily driving?

like many have said, get a speed, or if you are determined to have a n/a car, start of with some nice simple i/h/e and see if you like it.

there are many people running a BSD, speed and non-speed, without issue. the reason the balance shafts are there is to counteract vibrations but the assembly blocks a portion of cylinder 3 from getting oil and the theory is that the balance shafts cause oil starvation in cylinder 3....which, if you have oil consumption issues, cylinder 3 is usually the one to blow when the oil gets too low.

as for the intake manifold, if you have air getting added after the MAF sensor, you have a leak. a better flowing intake manifold will allow more air to flow into the cylinder (and thus more air to flow through the MAF), not add more air post-MAF.

[silverstarmazda]

a lot of people on the M3F run the balance shaft delete with only minimal vibrations. which im sure wears out something in the engine sooner. like how a out of balance wheel will wear out the tread unevenly and youll get bald spots.

i run injector cleaner for maximum horse power LOL :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

a lot of people on the M3F run the balance shaft delete with only minimal vibrations. which im sure wears out something in the engine sooner. like how a out of balance wheel will wear out the tread unevenly and youll get bald spots.

i run injector cleaner for maximum horse power LOL :chuckle

injector cleaner is not an octane booster...:loco

[silverstarmazda]

injector cleaner is not an octane booster...:loco

it was a joke.

[Booostin]

it was a joke.

Hence the LOL after your statement :P

[shu5892001]

I had balance shaft delete, vibrant header, exhaust, injen intake, lightweight water pump and alternator pulleys and light weight rims and tires. I was able to hang with E90 328i coupe at a stop light. However I did blow my engine at 125k LOL

[MattL]

I had balance shaft delete, vibrant header, exhaust, injen intake, lightweight water pump and alternator pulleys and light weight rims and tires. I was able to hang with E90 328i coupe at a stop light. However I did blow my engine at 125k LOL

Worth it!

So many acronyms in this thread. Makes my head spin. Can anyone chime in if the I/H/E upgrades void the warranty? I have so many things I want to get done to my car, but not sure which I can/cannot do for fear of voiding my warranty and wasting all that money.

[loki]

It was only a matter of time before someone asked about warranty

[Booter22]

Worth it!

So many acronyms in this thread. Makes my head spin. Can anyone chime in if the I/H/E upgrades void the warranty? I have so many things I want to get done to my car, but not sure which I can/cannot do for fear of voiding my warranty and wasting all that money.

if your worried about warranty. dont mod it. depending on the dealer and "repairs required" yes an intake, headers, and exhaust can void warranty. but it depends what you would need to have fixed. if you change your I/H/E wouldnt deny your warranty on the shocks for example.

[Jackal]

if your worried about warranty. dont mod it. depending on the dealer and "repairs required" yes an intake, headers, and exhaust can void warranty. but it depends what you would need to have fixed. if you change your I/H/E wouldnt deny your warranty on the shocks for example.

Until you change your suspension. Lol. Mod it slowly if you're worried about it and stick with cosmetic mods like grille, lip, side skirt extensions, eye lids and cool stickers. Will not void warranty but you may gain +5 hp for each sticker. ;).

[Simon99]

Until you change your suspension. Lol. Mod it slowly if you're worried about it and stick with cosmetic mods like grille, lip, side skirt extensions, eye lids and cool stickers. Will not void warranty but you may gain +5 hp for each sticker. ;).

Stickers just got installed and it definately pulls harder... Too bad the sound didn't change :( And yes, after going through that thread, I've decided that I'll probably stick with header, intake and catback. Already got yellows and sportline and car definately handles better :) All I wanted was to keep up with my bro with a 2012 Civic Si ;) 178 whp ... I guess that's possible with money and good will :) Thanks alot again !

[Simon99]

I was wondering if switching to a ms3 turbo block and kept my mz3 head would increase power ?

[Thrizzl3]

I was wondering if switching to a ms3 turbo block and kept my mz3 head would increase power ?

it's the same 2.3...just built to withstand more power

[CelestSpeed3]

I was wondering if switching to a ms3 turbo block and kept my mz3 head would increase power ?

It wouldn't do anything for you.

[Simon99]

It wouldn't do anything for you.

So if i would go turbo, i could help get over 240 hp ?

[loki]

So if i would go turbo, i could help get over 240 hp ?

Oh no...not this again...

[Ozil]

buy a Speed3 :D

[Simon99]

buy a Speed3 :D

Hahahaha, i wish, but being 17 with an accident (crashed my spec v) insurrances are too much :(

[Kiyomi]

So if i would go turbo, i could help get over 240 hp ?

u got 3 grand lying around for kit? and another 3-5 for supporting mods? :D.

[Simon99]

I could actually get a turbo kit for less than a grand ;) supporting mods would be pricy though hahaha, was more a question, i think 240 horse is enough for a daily driver :p

[Kiyomi]

I could actually get a turbo kit for less than a grand ;) supporting mods would be pricy though hahaha, was more a question, i think 240 horse is enough for a daily driver :p

... I wouldnt trust that kit if it was for under $1000 unless it was a gift by a baller friend or someone owed you.

[Simon99]

Gift from my friend's 2.3 hatch :p hes moved on to an s15 .. Sold all electronics but still has all hardware

[Simon99]

Sorry for double post, S14*

[midnightfxgt]

Hahahaha, i wish, but being 17 with an accident (crashed my spec v) insurrances are too much :(

If you have insurance issues, do NOT boost your car. To properly insure it afterwards is a real headache.

[6strings]

Trust the words of midnightfxgt young grasshopper and you will be safe.

[Simon99]

If you have insurance issues, do NOT boost your car. To properly insure it afterwards is a real headache.

Why would it be ? They dont need to know i boosted my car.. And if i ever get in an accident, the worst that could happen is losing a couple of turbo parts.. No ?

[peterm15]

Why would it be ? They dont need to know i boosted my car.. And if i ever get in an accident, the worst that could happen is losing a couple of turbo parts.. No ?

No. They can refuse payout.

[Hyperion]

Why would it be ? They dont need to know i boosted my car.. And if i ever get in an accident, the worst that could happen is losing a couple of turbo parts.. No ?


Yea..... I don't think you know how insurance works.
Step away from the modding, read up on insurance, and then come back to us when you understand the risk.

Them: You have a SRI..... No money for you!
You: FML

[Simon99]

Yea..... I don't think you know how insurance works.
Step away from the modding, read up on insurance, and then come back to us when you understand the risk.

Them: You have a SRI..... No money for you!
You: FML
... I never said I knew everything about insurance, nor did I knew you needed a full comprehension of it to mod your car. Sorry if my statement sounded dumb to you, I didn't knew they could refuse to pay you because you modded your car if you aren't responsible in an accident. How could a turbo affect a drunk driver clipping your car ...

[Kiyomi]

... I never said I knew everything about insurance, nor did I knew you needed a full comprehension of it to mod your car. Sorry if my statement sounded dumb to you, I didn't knew they could refuse to pay you because you modded your car if you aren't responsible in an accident. How could a turbo affect a drunk driver clipping your car ...

all Josh is saying is that you should understand the risks, before going out and boosting your car like that. not that insurance indefinitley wont pay you out, but it will be alot harder to claim for sure with performance mods which arent even declared in your policy.

[peterm15]

Also. If not at fault the liability of the at fault person pays. Not your insurance.
You insurance company can't refuse to pay out to someone you hit either.

What they can do is refuse to pay you if say you loose control and roll your car. Or are in a no fault accident.

[6strings]

Pretty much what we are trying to tell you is. DON'T DO IT!

[midnightfxgt]

Also. If not at fault the liability of the at fault person pays. Not your insurance.
You insurance company can't refuse to pay out to someone you hit either.

What they can do is refuse to pay you if say you loose control and roll your car. Or are in a no fault accident.

Even if your not at fault, they can come back and say that it was never disclosed. This will be in the underwriting of your contract, and your SOL.

The big thing is that they will drop you, and cancel your policy. So once you have a car back on the road, your are now branded in the eyes of all insurance companies. One of the first questions asked when you go to setup a policy is "Have you ever had your policy denied or cancelled". You have to answer yes, and may as well find a broker for your facilitated (ie much more expensive) insurance.

-John

[rajin929]

not worth it on a mazda 3, as you'd still get your butt handed to you by any minivan hauling 4 kids lol

wait a few years until your insurance rates get better, and use the time to save up for a faster car.

every forum there's 100 guys that say they can get a turbo for cheap....i have yet to see a build thread or a completed project from them posted lol

[Simon99]

all Josh is saying is that you should understand the risks, before going out and boosting your car like that. not that insurance indefinitley wont pay you out, but it will be alot harder to claim for sure with performance mods which arent even declared in your policy.


Also. If not at fault the liability of the at fault person pays. Not your insurance.
You insurance company can't refuse to pay out to someone you hit either.

What they can do is refuse to pay you if say you loose control and roll your car. Or are in a no fault accident.


Pretty much what we are trying to tell you is. DON'T DO IT!


Even if your not at fault, they can come back and say that it was never disclosed. This will be in the underwriting of your contract, and your SOL.

The big thing is that they will drop you, and cancel your policy. So once you have a car back on the road, your are now branded in the eyes of all insurance companies. One of the first questions asked when you go to setup a policy is "Have you ever had your policy denied or cancelled". You have to answer yes, and may as well find a broker for your facilitated (ie much more expensive) insurance.

-John


not worth it on a mazda 3, as you'd still get your butt handed to you by any minivan hauling 4 kids lol

wait a few years until your insurance rates get better, and use the time to save up for a faster car.

every forum there's 100 guys that say they can get a turbo for cheap....i have yet to see a build thread or a completed project from them posted lol


Thanks to all of you guys, sorry if I sounded stupid.. Just wanted to get the most out of the best thing I could afford :)

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Read:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f541/non-disi-mzr-build-evo-ass-whooping-sedan-105784/

[Hyperion]

Read:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f541/non-disi-mzr-build-evo-ass-whooping-sedan-105784/

Holy balls 358 hp

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Holy balls 358 hp

my thoughts exactly

[loki]

my thoughts exactly

Yeh but the money that would have been poured into that build...

[mazdaspeedemon3]

Yeh but the money that would have been poured into that build...

yeah prolly unreal, i wouldn't even want to know lol

[Jackal]

Well I am impressed. Nice wheels and a sleeper look. Smoke some speeds out there. :gone jk

[Impressive]

Read:

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f541/non-disi-mzr-build-evo-ass-whooping-sedan-105784/

The first few posts in that thread are hilarious.

For that price I would've just bought a speed, but damn do I wish I had a custom setup in my current sedan like the one he has!

[-ToM-]

that setup is pretty dope, but idk for that money, id buy something else

[Simon99]

that setup is pretty dope, but idk for that money, id buy something else

I think a build like adumbrille's sedan is something cheaper while remaining fast .. Really like his engine bay too !

http://www.mazda3forums.com/showthread.php?t=380899

[stevenma188]

^That's a nice build. Too lazy to go through 41 pages but is there a dyno sheet or something?

[Ozil]

^That's a nice build. Too lazy to go through 41 pages but is there a dyno sheet or something?

157whp?

http://www.mazda3forums.com/showthread.php?t=380899&page=40

[6strings]

157whp?

http://www.mazda3forums.com/showthread.php?t=380899&page=40
ugh... that's it? LOL :S

[midnightfxgt]

I think a build like adumbrille's sedan is something cheaper while remaining fast .. Really like his engine bay too !

http://www.mazda3forums.com/showthread.php?t=380899

Clean bay, but 157WHP is FAR from fast.

[6strings]

Clean bay, but 157WHP is FAR from fast.

Exactly. Maybe in 1965 it would be impressive LOL

[Simon99]

157whp?

http://www.mazda3forums.com/showthread.php?t=380899&page=40

But isn't it a 2.0 ? And ATX .. Surely a 2.3 MTX can easily hit 178-185 whp with that kind of setup.

[Chris222]

No, its a 2.3l ATX. From the last time I tuned in to his thread, I pretty much have close to all the mods he has. As in, I/H/E Intake Manifold, Hypertech. I don't have the BSD, Mounts or pullies. Plus I'm MTX, I will be dynoing soon, as in January, February. Plus I'm hoping to be doing a Water-Meth kit plus tuning.

[Kiyomi]

No, its a 2.3l ATX. From the last time I tuned in to his thread, I pretty much have close to all the mods he has. As in, I/H/E Intake Manifold, Hypertech. I don't have the BSD, Mounts or pullies. Plus I'm MTX, I will be dynoing soon, as in January, February. Plus I'm hoping to be doing a Water-Meth kit plus tuning.

gonna track it next year?

[Simon99]

No, its a 2.3l ATX. From the last time I tuned in to his thread, I pretty much have close to all the mods he has. As in, I/H/E Intake Manifold, Hypertech. I don't have the BSD, Mounts or pullies. Plus I'm MTX, I will be dynoing soon, as in January, February. Plus I'm hoping to be doing a Water-Meth kit plus tuning.

Rough estimate of cost of mods ?

[Chris222]

I'm hoping to track it a bit next year but the closest tracks are 3 hours away. CAI was 350.00 Exhaust 650.00 Header 400.00 Hypertech 400.00 Intake Manifold 350.00 plus 100.00 for TB adapter and block off plate. So 2,250 and that's not including getting the parts installed. Meth kit with fail safe will be close to 800.00 then tuning, but I need to pick up a tuning software. I found a XFC locally for 400.00. Plus getting it dyno tuned which is 150.00 per hour.

[Simon99]

I'm hoping to track it a bit next year but the closest tracks are 3 hours away. CAI was 350.00 Exhaust 650.00 Header 400.00 Hypertech 400.00 Intake Manifold 350.00 plus 100.00 for TB adapter and block off plate. So 2,250 and that's not including getting the parts installed. Meth kit with fail safe will be close to 800.00 then tuning, but I need to pick up a tuning software. I found a XFC locally for 400.00. Plus getting it dyno tuned which is 150.00 per hour.

Intake manifold 350 ? Which one did you get ? I thought WR were around 600$ and Cosworth around 800$-1K ?

[Kiyomi]

I'm hoping to track it a bit next year but the closest tracks are 3 hours away. CAI was 350.00 Exhaust 650.00 Header 400.00 Hypertech 400.00 Intake Manifold 350.00 plus 100.00 for TB adapter and block off plate. So 2,250 and that's not including getting the parts installed. Meth kit with fail safe will be close to 800.00 then tuning, but I need to pick up a tuning software. I found a XFC locally for 400.00. Plus getting it dyno tuned which is 150.00 per hour.

i only ask, cause im curious to c how fast it would be. if you ever go, lemme know, id be happy to join.

[Chris222]

I hate to tell you but I'm no where near the Toronto area, I'm just signed up to the forum. I'm in B.C. quite a few provinces over haha but I'll let you know if I'm ever in the area. I've been wanting to go to import fest for a while now. I don't know where its taking place this year. I can probably get a video of a track run when i do decide to go. I know it's not the same..... Simon, i have the Godspeed Intake Manifold, it's the Cosworth replica at half the cost. Yeah WR are 550 and Cosworth 800 if I remember correctly. Just like the Cosworth, you need a TB adapter and block off plate made for it installed to get it to work. The Godspeed is designed for the Focus, just look it up on ebay. I should be picking up a sandwich adapter to run spin on oil filters. I believe that's all I need. Plus I'll be picking up some gauges, oil temp, oil pressure and water temp. I really need to tune, because right now it's just parts slapped on a car, I need a better tune than the hypertech to optimize all my mods together. Plus it runs a bit rough when cold and I believe it's running lean.

[midnightfxgt]

I'm hoping to track it a bit next year but the closest tracks are 3 hours away. CAI was 350.00 Exhaust 650.00 Header 400.00 Hypertech 400.00 Intake Manifold 350.00 plus 100.00 for TB adapter and block off plate. So 2,250 and that's not including getting the parts installed. Meth kit with fail safe will be close to 800.00 then tuning, but I need to pick up a tuning software. I found a XFC locally for 400.00. Plus getting it dyno tuned which is 150.00 per hour.

Your going to be $4000+ deep into this, and probably make under 180WHP?

[6strings]

Your going to be $4000+ deep into this, and probably make under 180WHP?

LOL 180 is nuff powwer
https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/11/30/4dM5FsCCsEG4MX8OeqY9yA2.gif

[Impressive]

^ Dont kill me LOL!

157 whp? With all that money, why not just swap the friggin' engine for something more powerful?

Complete waste if you ask me, but to each their own.

[Thrizzl3]

completely gut the car leaving a seat and motor..157hp will send you flying.

[Kiyomi]

I hate to tell you but I'm no where near the Toronto area, I'm just signed up to the forum. I'm in B.C. quite a few provinces over haha but I'll let you know if I'm ever in the area. I've been wanting to go to import fest for a while now. I don't know where its taking place this year. I can probably get a video of a track run when i do decide to go. I know it's not the same..... Simon, i have the Godspeed Intake Manifold, it's the Cosworth replica at half the cost. Yeah WR are 550 and Cosworth 800 if I remember correctly. Just like the Cosworth, you need a TB adapter and block off plate made for it installed to get it to work. The Godspeed is designed for the Focus, just look it up on ebay. I should be picking up a sandwich adapter to run spin on oil filters. I believe that's all I need. Plus I'll be picking up some gauges, oil temp, oil pressure and water temp. I really need to tune, because right now it's just parts slapped on a car, I need a better tune than the hypertech to optimize all my mods together. Plus it runs a bit rough when cold and I believe it's running lean.

too bad. but are you trying to be n.a.? if so, just forgo the meth kit and put less agressive cams in. will be around the same price but may give you 40 more horse.

[6strings]

completely gut the car leaving a seat and motor..157hp will send you flying.

..... whilst still doing the speed limit.

[Thrizzl3]

..... whilst still doing the speed limit.

gets you up to the speed limit...fast.

[Chris222]

I hate to tell all of you but U have WAY more than 4k in this car. I just had to put a new engine in because of failed piston rings that prematurely went. That was 4k, as far as putting in another engine. What am i suppose to put in? Im not putting a v8 or any domestic stuff in it. Id actually would enjoy having traction. I doubt an inline 6 would fit. I could put a speed 3 in it. But sourcing the engine and getting it installed would be upwards of 6k I can imagine. I for one dont have hat money. If you factor in
that I have slowly dumped money in to this car for the last 2.5 years. I cant afford a alot. Most money i have spent is from birthdays, christmas etc. That and this being my first car, I wanted it to be unique and special. I can gladly say my car is fairly one of a kind. I dont see too many people running the setup i am in a mazda 3. Maybe because it's stupid a d non realistic to make power on an econobox but I dont care. It iis what it is, cams are a good idea actually. I know of a set that will work. Theyre mx5 miata cams from cosworth. It would gain 10-15whp with tuning. Its a fun car and i enjoy it and hell, ive beat v6's with it along with my buddys v8 chipped dakota. I made my own choices and i have to live with them, but my car is one of a kind out of mazda 3's that is.

[loki]

For someone that hates to tell us stuff you sure tell us alot of stuff

[midnightfxgt]

For someone that hates to tell us stuff you sure tell us alot of stuff

It's official. your my favourite mod lol

[midnightfxgt]

I hate to tell all of you but U have WAY more than 4k in this car. I just had to put a new engine in because of failed piston rings that prematurely went. That was 4k, as far as putting in another engine. What am i suppose to put in?

For "Way" more than $4K, I would have turboed the car. I may be a little biased, but you would gain a whole lot more power, and be more "one-of-a-kind" than someone with some bolt-ons (if thats what your after).

Depending on your situation, and such, a Speed3 would have been a better upgrade.

[Chris222]

Midnight, I 100% agree with you. I thought I'd be happy just doing bolt ons and being fully bolted. I was wrong, going FI would have made me a lot happier for sure. It comes down to money, i wouldnt be able to save all that money for a good turbo kit. That and even running low psi theres always the chance of snapping the rod. So to do it right, forged internals and all the tuning done. Tripoints kit is 4k than forged internals and getting it installed is lots of money. Mazda 3 isnt the best platform to work off of as farvas aftermarket goes. But if I had the money Id buy a speed6 or boost mine. Im young and thought id be satisfied with bolt ons, guess not haha. To make power for your money FI is definitely the way to go.

[Simon99]

Does this look like a deal ? http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2007-2009-Mazda-3-Complete-Turbo-kit-Ko4-AEM-Turbo-XS-Greddy-W0QQAdIdZ436059273

[Impressive]

Does this look like a deal ? http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2007-2009-Mazda-3-Complete-Turbo-kit-Ko4-AEM-Turbo-XS-Greddy-W0QQAdIdZ436059273

Do it!