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Prezi
10-14-2012, 07:45 PM
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...85Q0SUro3x38mr

so do you think she deserved it??

Prezi
10-14-2012, 07:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-dRSqJRI_Y

for easier viewing.

trulankan
10-14-2012, 07:56 PM
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhTq85Q0SUro3x38mr

so do you think she deserved it?

no idea what she said as its unclear but damn she got popped, driver deserves to be canned for that + sued for assault...if she was being a bitch he could have just kicked her off the bus or called the popo...i cant believe she got up after that tho damn shes tough lol

S.F.W.
10-14-2012, 08:24 PM
I call fakery..

SKYMP3
10-14-2012, 08:53 PM
Some young gangster wanna be deserve a lesson. Bus driver must be in really bad mood. Not wise to do that in public neither.

Thrizzl3
10-14-2012, 09:02 PM
I call fakery..

No that was fully real....you heard the slap and everything.

MattL
10-14-2012, 11:45 PM
There's also this angle if you're interested.


http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhzCVM2oOs7f35xwUa

It's real, for sure. But what initially made me question it's authenticity is how he decked her SO hard, and she's still conscious.

aris
10-14-2012, 11:54 PM
She hit him first.... She got what she deserved if you ask me

Punkrockjohn
10-14-2012, 11:58 PM
wow, the connection....jesus that musta hurt

RedRaptor
10-15-2012, 12:05 AM
She hit him first.... She got what she deserved if you ask me

Seriously?

Any man that lays a hand on a woman is a coward. Pure and simple.

A real man would walk away and find another way.

Hyperion
10-15-2012, 12:37 AM
Seriously?

Any man that lays a hand on a woman is a coward. Pure and simple.

A real man would walk away and find another way.

A real woman wouldn't antagonize a guy like that because she knew that 'it's wrong to hit a woman'.
Equal rights, equal everything.
Unfortunately, that's not the way most see it....

Kiyomi
10-15-2012, 12:47 AM
dont talk trash and hit the bus driver. nuff said.

trulankan
10-15-2012, 12:55 AM
A real woman wouldn't antagonize a guy like that because she knew that 'it's wrong to hit a woman'.
Equal rights, equal everything.
Unfortunately, that's not the way most see it....

+1 i agree, this chick thinks she runs the bus, he should have turned her around and kicked her ass out of the bus lol

cwp_sedan
10-15-2012, 01:05 AM
Straight up, dude was out of line to hit her like that. Chris Rock has a solution though...



NSFW - language

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPboeNKMngc

aris
10-15-2012, 01:39 AM
Seriously?

Any man that lays a hand on a woman is a coward. Pure and simple.

A real man would walk away and find another way.

just my opioin

i don't know what started the whole thing but what I do see in that video is her screaming at the bus drivet and then hitting the driver.

What gives her the right to hit him?

LezOLee
10-15-2012, 03:42 AM
IMO its wrong to hit a woman unless you have a very strong reason. Really, its wrong for anyone (man or woman) to hit another person, regardless of gender. If someone else harasses me repeatedly and i warn them that i'll hit them if they keep on doing it, its their fault, not mine. That bus driver didn't really have to uppercut her like that tho... she's quite the tank!

silverstarmazda
10-15-2012, 04:41 AM
bang, zoom, straight to the moon

FD22
10-15-2012, 06:15 AM
dont talk trash and hit the bus driver. nuff said.

+1 lol

Johns 08 3 GT
10-15-2012, 08:42 AM
What gives her the right to hit him?

This!

Her side of the story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p9vemxT5_w&feature=player_embedded

aris
10-15-2012, 10:13 AM
EIther way you look at it she hit him he hit her back.. Their both to blame and i don't feel sorry for her.


This!

Her side of the story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p9vemxT5_w&feature=player_embedded

midnightfxgt
10-15-2012, 11:14 AM
"I was on Mortal Combat, it hurted"

Hahahhahaah

cwp_sedan
10-15-2012, 11:21 AM
"She says she's changed..."

Give me a break!

silverstarmazda
10-15-2012, 11:46 AM
"She says she's changed..."

Give me a break!

brain injury has a tendency to do that. just because theyre not completely different, some are really subtle. mostly psychological problems.

rajin929
10-15-2012, 12:27 PM
EIther way you look at it she hit him he hit her back.. Their both to blame and i don't feel sorry for her.

+1

In the process of kicking her of the bus, he got a few pretty good shots in.

I don't see him taking the high road and just yelling at her to get off the bus....don't think that would have worked.

She probably would have continued to come at him.

terapr0
10-15-2012, 12:37 PM
garishly unprofessional....if this were just some random dude it'd be one thing, but this guy is supposed to be a professional driver representing his employer. I hope they throw the book at this him and that he at LEAST gets fired. Assaulting a customer is totally unacceptable, regardless of what they've done to you. If he knew it was on camera he should have locked the doors and driven her straight to the police station and filed charges of his own. He's obviously bigger than her too, If he really needed her gone I dont see why he couldnt have just forced her off the bus. The gender of the victim should have little bearing on your opinion of his actions....I too disagree with ever hitting a woman, but I dont think there's any conceivable scenario in which assaulting a customer is appropriate. Doesnt matter if you're driving a bus, flipping burgers or brokering million dollar business deals in a boardroom - there are always going to be rude, inconsiderate shitheads out there and dealing with them is something you need to do.

mazdabetty
10-15-2012, 12:55 PM
bahahha... all I keep thinking when I see that is this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJS3a20rUVM

joedemarco
10-15-2012, 12:55 PM
A real woman wouldn't antagonize a guy like that because she knew that 'it's wrong to hit a woman'.
Equal rights, equal everything.
Unfortunately, that's not the way most see it....
agreed, she's also threatening his granddaughter has his grandmother....although he did bring them up.

She got what she deserved, you can tell by her mouth she's not very lady like, and I doubt that its the first time she's gotten into a fight with a guy, running her mouth in his safe space (not behind the yellow line) and refusing to co-operate...I think us men have the right to defend ourselves against women if need be....obviously he felt the need todo so.


I wouldn't havedoneit, but it's no joke to say that men don't get abused by women....why shouldn't he have defended himself. He'll get the worse end of this no matter what.

Unfortunate.

rajin929
10-15-2012, 12:58 PM
if I was mayor I'd give him the key to the city for his help in reducing the number of crazy a** bi***** in cleveland.

(sacarsm)

agreed with poster above, he's get the worse end of it.

guy goes to work, does his job....you can only take so much crap from someone before you break out

Nooby31
10-15-2012, 01:24 PM
Good on the bus driver for putting that crap where it belongs!

When I use to ride the bus there were always these types of people who for some reason think they can say or do whatever they want. She got exactly what she deserves although I think peer pressure may have played a part in this if the people in the back were her friends.

Kudos Mr. driver!!!

MarkWB
10-15-2012, 02:08 PM
The reason she didn't get knocked out is because he didn't hit her that hard, it just seems that way because 1) it's an uppercut, and 2) he's twice her size so the impact is more forceful. He didn't lean his hips in, so his weight wasn't in the punch, you can even see his hand goes back as soon as the contact was made. That being said, that's definitely an excessive use of force. If he'd dragged her off the bus that'd be one thing, but to get up and uppercut a bitch just for talking too much...he definitely deserves to get fired.

rzapata
10-15-2012, 02:35 PM
Title is wrong. This is not a tiger uppercut... It's called shoryuken. She deserved it or not, this thing's funny. :chuckle

SilentJay
10-15-2012, 02:48 PM
Sigh... The lippy generation.

He essentially did what everyone else wanted to do, right or wrong. Self-defence is one thing but he could've fended her off quite easily without the uppercut.

Anyhoo, best case he'll lose his job. Worst case, he'll get sued, fined and/or imprisonned.

aris
10-15-2012, 02:49 PM
The reason she didn't get knocked out is because he didn't hit her that hard, it just seems that way because 1) it's an uppercut, and 2) he's twice her size so the impact is more forceful. He didn't lean his hips in, so his weight wasn't in the punch, you can even see his hand goes back as soon as the contact was made. That being said, that's definitely an excessive use of force. If he'd dragged her off the bus that'd be one thing, but to get up and uppercut a bitch just for talking too much...he definitely deserves to get fired.

He didn't "upper cut a bitch cause she was talking to much" he hit her AFTER she hit him!

aris
10-15-2012, 02:50 PM
Sigh... The lippy generation.

He essentially did what everyone else wanted to do, right or wrong. Self-defence is one thing but he could've fended her off quite easily without the uppercut.

Anyhoo, best case he'll lose his job. Worst case, he'll get sued, fined and/or imprisonned.

Sued for what ? She hit him first

ds08tf
10-15-2012, 02:57 PM
That was one hellllluva uppecut.

MarkWB
10-15-2012, 02:58 PM
He didn't "upper cut a bitch cause she was talking to much" he hit her AFTER she hit him!

She probably slapped him or something lol you can even see she stepped back after striking him, then he engaged her. UoF framework says the assault stopped when she backed away from him, he didn't need to hit her to stop it, and thats why he's in the wrong.

silverstarmazda
10-15-2012, 03:17 PM
bahahha... all I keep thinking when I see that is this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJS3a20rUVM

lol pretty much all i was thinking about

FoXy
10-15-2012, 03:26 PM
BS... she deserved it fully. There are too many dumb degerate punks out these (male and female) who think they are entitled and that they can get away with whatever they want.... WRONG.... someone finally stood up for themself. Good for him. Just sucks that now he'll get canned. Clearly he was doing something right if he has been there for 22 years.

Prezi
10-15-2012, 03:48 PM
Title is wrong. This is not a tiger uppercut... It's called shoryuken. She deserved it or not, this thing's funny. :chuckle

my bad... i guess he didn't jump with the uppercut.

on another note I found a article online with witnesses explaining what actually happened.
-she got on the bus without paying her fair
-bus driver called her out on it
-she started yelling at bus driver, but driver started yelling back
-she went over to him, put her hands on him, and spit in his face
-bus driver get outs of seat and uppercuts her.. .

I dunno, I think if anyone was to SPIT in my face... things would get a little out of hand.

Prezi
10-15-2012, 03:51 PM
fair=fare*

crap was looking for the article to post, and I cant find it again :s

terapr0
10-15-2012, 04:08 PM
lol its a union job....22yrs doesn't mean shit. The fact that he assaulted a passenger while on duty in front of a crowd of paying customers (several of which were holding cameras) speaks volumes about his character and level of intelligence. The sad thing is that the union will probably try and protect him...his employers likely couldn't fire him even if they proved he was taking lines of blow off strippers before every shift.

Fact of the matter is that regardless of what she did to him, assaulting her back in such an extravagant, public manner wasn't the right thing to do. A quasi-violent shove off the bus with a hidden jab to the ribs would have been equally effective and far more discrete. Still wrong, but less worthy of internet fame / notoriety.

Every job has good days and bad, and every single one of us has probably been so insulted we wanted to punch a customer / co-worker in the face. 99.9999999% of us are capable of mustering the restraint needed to just turn the other cheek and move on. If he's dealt with so much unpleasantness over the years that he can no longer restrain himself when faced with "difficult" passengers, I think it's time for a new job.

jonjon72
10-15-2012, 04:19 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/jonjon72/buspunch.jpg

terapr0
10-15-2012, 04:25 PM
lolz :D

Default User
10-15-2012, 04:31 PM
Seriously?

Any man that lays a hand on a woman is a coward. Pure and simple.

A real man would walk away and find another way.

completely agree
so what if she was a punk biotch?
IMHO - the driver is a punk biotch for hitting a female like that

trulankan
10-15-2012, 05:19 PM
completely agree
so what if she was a punk biotch?
IMHO - the driver is a punk biotch for hitting a female like that

she apparently spat in his face...shes totally out of line and was just asking for it. the driver went all out in response but a simple shove out the bus door would have been better.

unfortunately, the bitch is prob gonna take all this attention and grow her ego even more and think that she can get away with anything now. hope karma comes and bites her in the ass.

rajin929
10-15-2012, 06:13 PM
a lotta punk kids running around these days that need a beating like that to set them straight that's for sure.

(maybe the parents needs an uppercut too)

The Wolf
10-15-2012, 07:26 PM
Not going to say wether or not I think she deserved the punch, but she would have deserved it just as much if she was a male.
Men have been letting women get away with this double standard thing for way too long. Men, as a gender, have pu$$y-whipped themselves into thinking that chivalry when it's convenient is the right way to exist, but it's not. The problem is that men are so arrogant that we believe that women truly are at a disadvantage. I have news for you boys; Women make more money than men, have more rights, and pay for less. We tell our daughters that they are Princesses but teach them to act like dirt.

As for a "real man would have walked away", HELL NO. A real man knows when it's time to put a tough-talking arrogant PERSON in their place. A "real man" should have RAISED this child RIGHT. The bus driver owes her nothing. Kids have to learn that they can't get away with this stuff.

Default User
10-15-2012, 08:14 PM
LMFAO at these comments

I really cant believe just how many of you (future wife beaters) condone a male beating on a female.

And all this talk about how kids nowadays have no ethics and how bad they need a beat down. WTF? I can't decide if its more ironic or hypocritical.

a REAL MAN knows how to deal with ALL situations. A punk ass spoiled brat doesn't. The whole "Boo hoo - she disrespecting me. I better show her who's da man, and knock her the **** out" attitude that everyone is condoning is ****ing disturbing. Not just as a member here. But also, as a parent.

Now for those of you saying this girls' parents didn't raise her right. That's a cop out. She's a grown adult. She's fully capable of making her own decisions. But the irony here - is those of you saying she deserved to get beaten my a man - twice her size. To me - you're parents didn't raise YOU right, if that's what you truly believe.

This girl is somebody's daughter, sister, mother, friend, lover. If a man did this to your mother, sister, daughter, gf/wife. How would you feel?

Kiyomi
10-15-2012, 08:26 PM
^^ there is a double standard here, where a woman can hit a man, but a man cant hit a woman. ahem, she assaulted him by hitting and spitting in his face. this is the issue. nothing to do with wife beating.

by taking it as, that a man should not hit a woman and ignoring what actual events occurred, it shows ignorance on your part imo.

Default User
10-15-2012, 08:28 PM
^^ there is a double standard here, where a woman can hit a man, but a man cant hit a woman. ahem, she assaulted him by hitting and spitting in his face. this is the issue. nothing to do with wife beating.

by taking it as, that a man should not hit a woman and ignoring what actual events occurred, it shows ignorance on your part imo.

So by this token - if I wife slaps her husband for cheating on her - he has every right to give her a beating?

Default User
10-15-2012, 08:33 PM
IMO - any man that condones striking a female in excessive force is a puss hole.

As mentioned - with his size, he could easily have carried her off the bus. A full out power punch uppercut to the chin was unnecessary.

Fuman
10-15-2012, 08:34 PM
LMFAO at these comments

I really cant believe just how many of you (future wife beaters) condone a male beating on a female.

And all this talk about how kids nowadays have no ethics and how bad they need a beat down. WTF? I can't decide if its more ironic or hypocritical.

a REAL MAN knows how to deal with ALL situations. A punk ass spoiled brat doesn't. The whole "Boo hoo - she disrespecting me. I better show her who's da man, and knock her the **** out" attitude that everyone is condoning is ****ing disturbing. Not just as a member here. But also, as a parent.

Now for those of you saying this girls' parents didn't raise her right. That's a cop out. She's a grown adult. She's fully capable of making her own decisions. But the irony here - is those of you saying she deserved to get beaten my a man - twice her size. To me - you're parents didn't raise YOU right, if that's what you truly believe.

This girl is somebody's daughter, sister, mother, friend, lover. If a man did this to your mother, sister, daughter, gf/wife. How would you feel?

I'd agree with what you said if you take the gender aspect out of it. When looking at situations like these, it should not matter if a male / female was involved. Women and men are supposedly equals in todays society. Furthermore, size of the person isn't the only factor to look at either, the background in martial arts should also be examined. The physical contact should not have occurred, regardless of the genders of the two people involved.

Back to the point, I would hope a calm/smart/intelligence person will know how to handle these situations. (I don't think "real man" is a good choice of words as different people have their own definitions).

The bus driver has every right to defend himself, was an uppercut the right move? Debatable. However, his actions following the uppercut indicate that he was not doing just that.

Kiyomi
10-15-2012, 08:36 PM
So by this token - if I wife slaps her husband for cheating on her - he has every right to give her a beating?

a woman assaulted a male bus driver, and he retaliated (which i do not condone in any way). <--- those are the facts. what you are doing is taking it out of context, and putting it into relationships which is what i dont get.

I am quite sure that the majority of TM3 does not condone beating in any way. you are leaving facts aside and bringing up the ideology that husbands should not hit wives. two different things.

were the bus driver and the woman (customer) in a relationship other than a business transaction of transportation? no. Again, she assaulted him first and he retaliated. saying that its 'just' his fault is just as bad as saying that hitting women is right.

Fuman
10-15-2012, 08:38 PM
With the SSF4 posts here, I'm surprised there is a SSF4 theme gif yet!

Default User
10-15-2012, 09:07 PM
Because unfortunately - most people cannot relate to any other situation.

In full context - a man working in a public position gets confronted by a psychotic loud mouth female.

They both have their gangsta-face on. Words get said. She takes a swing. Male feels he got dissed. So he serves her one with an uppercut, and then picks her up, and throws her off the bus.

Take into count the size difference.
Take into fact the age difference.
Take into fact the experience
Was that a fair fight?

Take a look at his "professional" position. As a (somewhat) public servant - Did he handle that correctly?

Take a look at the female's initial action and his re-action. Was that justified?

In every way possible - I see this guy in the wrong.

Kiyomi
10-15-2012, 09:14 PM
Because unfortunately - most people cannot relate to any other situation.

In full context - a man working in a public position gets confronted by a psychotic loud mouth female.

They both have their gangsta-face on. Words get said. She takes a swing. Male feels he got dissed. So he serves her one with an uppercut, and then picks her up, and throws her off the bus.

Take into count the size difference.
Take into fact the age difference.
Take into fact the experience
Was that a fair fight?

Take a look at his "professional" position. As a (somewhat) public servant - Did he handle that correctly?

Take a look at the female's initial action and his re-action. Was that justified?

In every way possible - I see this guy in the wrong.

I agree with this. but to add to this, i believe that both are wrong and that its not just the bus drivers fault. just really curious if you think that there is no fault on the part of the female passenger?

what i found ignorant was you calling many Tm3 members wife beaters and taking it out of context by generalizing the facts to husbands beating wives which you just stated.

Default User
10-15-2012, 09:39 PM
I agree with this. but to add to this, i believe that both are wrong and that its not just the bus drivers fault. just really curious if you think that there is no fault on the part of the female passenger?

what i found ignorant was you calling many Tm3 members wife beaters and taking it out of context by generalizing the facts to husbands beating wives which you just stated.

I do believe Both are at fault.

But as I mentioned numerous times, a REAL man would not strike a woman. Plain and simple.

The whole "she was asking for it" excuse is a cop out and no way was the bus driver practising self defence.

Legally - "a person may use reasonable force when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent an impending injury. A person using force in self-defense should use only so much force as is required to repel the attack."


if you honesty think that the bus drivers actions were justifiable, and this is something you would do if you were in his position - then I can only imagine what you would do if your REAL life emotions were involved.

cwp_sedan
10-15-2012, 09:46 PM
There will always be a standard of rising above a filthy, ignorant female who thinks they can physically abuse a male and get off scott-free. Never lower yourself to that level. Step up, be a man and remove yourself from the situation without violence.

The bus driver should have pulled over and told her to get the **** off. Then tell every other passenger that they weren't going to move until she got off or paid, since according to the girl, that is what started the disagreement initially.

No person should put their hands on another person in an abusive way. Women always expect they have a free pass but all that shows is that they are disrespectful and don't deserve a minute of the other persons time or attention.

Kiyomi
10-15-2012, 10:37 PM
I do believe Both are at fault.

But as I mentioned numerous times, a REAL man would not strike a woman. Plain and simple.

The whole "she was asking for it" excuse is a cop out and no way was the bus driver practising self defence.

Legally - "a person may use reasonable force when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent an impending injury. A person using force in self-defense should use only so much force as is required to repel the attack."


if you honesty think that the bus drivers actions were justifiable, and this is something you would do if you were in his position - then I can only imagine what you would do if your REAL life emotions were involved.

lol keep imagining. finally you answered the question which is what i was getting at. both were at fault and not just the guy which is what you were getting at. I agreed with you that in no way should the man have struck that woman. so please stop saying a "real" man would do this do that and put me under the banner of a wife beater. dont argue just to save face.

I agree with ryan's comments. puts it into perfect perspective.

The Wolf
10-15-2012, 10:41 PM
DU,
I don't appreciate what you are implying. At all.

To clarify MY stance, since I should have been more clear in the first place, I don't believe she deserved to get hit. But then again, if it were a male, same size, most would have no problem with the punch... I'd venture to guess yourself included.

THAT'S what I have a problem with. The fact that she happened to be born with a vagina gives her carte blanche? I don't think so.

RedRaptor
10-15-2012, 10:49 PM
I'm with Default User on this one all the way.

I was raised by my parents never to strike a women and I never have.

To those justifying why "she deserved it", I don't blame DU for calling you guys out for being future wife beaters.

A REAL man doesn't lay a hand on a women. There are no if, ands or buts. Its pretty black and white to me.

The Wolf
10-15-2012, 10:53 PM
I'm with Default User on this one all the way.

I was raised by my parents never to strike a women and I never have.

To those justifying why "she deserved it", I don't blame DU for calling you guys out for being future wife beaters.

A REAL man doesn't lay a hand on a women. There are no if, ands or buts. Its pretty black and white to me.

a lot of people were raised to believe a lot of things.

Impressive
10-15-2012, 11:02 PM
I wouldn't have hit her, but I do not blame him for doing so.

If I was on a jury or residing over this case I'd probably rule in his favor.

aris
10-15-2012, 11:06 PM
I'm with Default User on this one all the way.

I was raised by my parents never to strike a women and I never have.

To those justifying why "she deserved it", I don't blame DU for calling you guys out for being future wife beaters.

A REAL man doesn't lay a hand on a women. There are no if, ands or buts. Its pretty black and white to me.

I've never hit my GF nor have ever hit a girl but I don't see anything wrong with what the guy did... Calling members a future wife beaters is rude and uncalled for.

How do you know how you will react in situation like that?

Read a few posts down and you will see even one of our female members agreed with the guy hitting her.

PearlM3
10-15-2012, 11:32 PM
I'm with DU on this one, no matter what the situation I would say a man should not lay hands on a woman. In all reality I would say that unless you are defending yourself a man should not lay hands on a man. All those that say otherwise in my opinion are immature. We can go on about equal rights this and that, but what it all comes down to is how do you as a man view women. And you can't say you don't know what you would do in that situation, if your married you know what high stress emotional situations are, and if you can control yourself in those, then i'm sure you can control yourself from upper cutting some random woman on a bus. She should have not been acting like that, but I believe that the driver really crossed the line.

According to some of the comments on here it would come across that anytime a woman backtalks us we should beat them, or anytime a kid gets out of hand we should uppercut them. I say grow up, real men deal with issues without their fists.

Default User
10-15-2012, 11:32 PM
lol keep imagining. finally you answered the question which is what i was getting at. both were at fault and not just the guy which is what you were getting at. I agreed with you that in no way should the man have struck that woman. so please stop saying a "real" man would do this do that and put me under the banner of a wife beater. dont argue just to save face.


Who's trying to save face, Kiyomi?
I really don't understand your arguments. It was somebody's "real man" comments I was quoting - so I'm not sure where you're coming from. But hey, if yet again, you think I'm picking on you - well that's your own prerogative, cupcake



DU,
I don't appreciate what you are implying. At all.

To clarify MY stance, since I should have been more clear in the first place, I don't believe she deserved to get hit. But then again, if it were a male, same size, most would have no problem with the punch... I'd venture to guess yourself included.

THAT'S what I have a problem with. The fact that she happened to be born with a vagina gives her carte blanche? I don't think so.

But it is what it is, Sawatsky. She is a female and She is half his size.

You did mention, " A real man knows when it's time to put a tough-talking arrogant PERSON in their place. " as you continue damn the double standard and say how men and women should be treated as equals through-and-through... So to me - it sounds like you applaud his actions.

At the end of the day - A man beat a woman. Plain and simple. And some of you people are ok with that? Well then, When is it not ok?



I've never hit my GF nor have ever hit a girl but I don't see anything wrong with what the guy did... Calling members a future wife beaters is rude and uncalled for.

How do you know how you will react in situation like that?

Read a few posts down and you will see even one of our female members agreed with the guy hitting her.

foxxy's gangster like that

Default User
10-15-2012, 11:36 PM
. We can go on about equal rights this and that, but what it all comes down to is how do you as a man view women. And you can't say you don't know what you would do in that situation, if your married you know what high stress emotional situations are, and if you can control yourself in those, then i'm sure you can control yourself from upper cutting some random woman on a bus.

This

If he couldn't handle that girl on a bus full of strangers - imagine what could happen behind closed doors.

The Wolf
10-15-2012, 11:46 PM
But it is what it is, Sawatsky. She is a female and She is half his size.

You did mention, " A real man knows when it's time to put a tough-talking arrogant PERSON in their place. " as you continue damn the double standard and say how men and women should be treated as equals through-and-through... So to me - it sounds like you applaud his actions.



I meant that if it was a man who was the same size as the girl in the video, it would somehow be OK.

FWIW, my girlfriend was absolutely thrilled by the punch.

aris
10-15-2012, 11:48 PM
foxxy's gangster like that

lol

Default User
10-15-2012, 11:56 PM
I meant that if it was a man who was the same size as the girl in the video, it would somehow be OK.

FWIW, my girlfriend was absolutely thrilled by the punch.

LOL

but no - it still would not be ok if the guy and girl were the same size LOL

The Wolf
10-15-2012, 11:59 PM
I'll try again LOL... If it were two guys.

LezOLee
10-16-2012, 12:15 AM
its wrong, not because a man hit a woman, not because he's larger than she is, but simply because it's wrong to hit another person, nuff said

peterm15
10-16-2012, 01:10 AM
She deserved to be hit.

Like that, by him. No.

But she did deserve to be hit.


IMO. both parties are mentally unstable and should be takin off the streets.

midnightfxgt
10-16-2012, 10:13 AM
I have news for you boys; Women make more money than men, have more rights

You should re-read your news. I can confidently say this is not true, at least in NA.

The Wolf
10-16-2012, 10:37 AM
Hmmm. My girlfriend learned this semester in her economics class that they do. Not sure of all the details she was told though.

Edit: on pace to out earn. On average, women under 30 make more than men already
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2109140,00.html

FoXy
10-16-2012, 11:17 AM
That "lady" was no lady indeed. As a woman, I was honestly DISGUSTED by her behavior. It's ignorant skanks like this who ruin it for real ladies.

If you actually listen to what she says, she is a despicable human being....cussing and dropping the f-bomb like it's going out of style. She is straight up LOW CLASS.... sorry, NO class.

I know this "gangsta" bitch thinks she's tough, but really... who would treat her like a lady when she acts like a down right piece of disrespectful trash.

Clearly it's not acceptable to hit women.... but come on, just watching it makes me want to hit her in her ugly manly face.

MarkWB
10-16-2012, 06:04 PM
Honestly, to the men of this thread, if you are so concerned with equality of men and women, write a letter to the PM. Society will always think it's wrong for men to hit women BECAUSE IT IS, period. I'd get charged with aggravated assault for pushing half of you that show up to ertefa because of the size difference, and this is the same thing with the man woman comparison. The woman here is CLEARLY no match for the bus driver, and there's no good reason for him to deck her, even if she did spit on him. No just explanation can be given for his actions. He did not need to use that type of force to fend off this pint sized (loud, but pint sized nonetheless) assailant.

A real man who gets spit on by a woman will have the self confidence to laugh in her face and humiliate her punk ass. Striking back makes you look like a fool who needs to compensate being hit by someone half their size by giving her the final beatdown.

Nooby31
10-16-2012, 06:20 PM
Why make it into a man hitting a woman issue? Why not treat them equally and say a human hitting a human. I agree it is the internet and we can all pretend to be saints but cmon....I know if I was there and if I was his size I would not have given her an uppercut but still showed her she can't go around acting all hard.

He clearly did not want to hit the girl but she asked for it. We can all sit in front of the screen and say what we would have done but being there and being in his shoes or her shoes is a whole different thing.

vinnierap
10-17-2012, 10:57 AM
While I do not condone his actions, he could have gone about this in a better way (calling for RTA security if they have or police). Although the b*tch assaulted him first there was no immediate threat when he assaulted her back. If he hit her while she was hitting him or just after she hit him its self defense. The fact that he was driving and she hit him while driving possibly endangering everyone on the bus is another issue on its own. If they are gonna charge one they must charge them both.

All that aside she did get what she deserves (even though it shouldnt have happened). She is a useless degenerate who is acting all gangsta b*tch threatening him all kinds. She says she changed, ya cuz maybe he knocked some sense into her...

asyed
10-18-2012, 10:32 AM
id say it was too harsh and unproffesional to hit her but she really shouldnt have been verbally assaulting the driver....

cant believe there are still people these days that think they are all that and all..... ( the other day i witnessed some dumb lady yelling at the parking officer at my campus for not letting her in even though the lot was full..... and while she was doing this she was pretty much blocking me from turning left from the exit with her car.... had to go all the way around her )

bubba1983
10-18-2012, 10:57 AM
Queue music
"when a maaaaaaaan uppercuts a woooomann.."

Pow right in the kisser....jackie gleason style....

My misses likes it when i gives her a good punch.....mmmm

joedemarco
10-18-2012, 12:11 PM
Because unfortunately - most people cannot relate to any other situation.

In full context - a man working in a public position gets confronted by a psychotic loud mouth female.

They both have their gangsta-face on. Words get said. She takes a swing. Male feels he got dissed. So he serves her one with an uppercut, and then picks her up, and throws her off the bus.

Take into count the size difference.
Take into fact the age difference.
Take into fact the experience
Was that a fair fight?

Take a look at his "professional" position. As a (somewhat) public servant - Did he handle that correctly?

Take a look at the female's initial action and his re-action. Was that justified?

In every way possible - I see this guy in the wrong.

Here you're being a complete hypocrite, previously you said that those of us who agree this is her parents fault for not raising her right were incorrect, we'll sir, that being said, she's the person who #1 broke the law of not paying her bus fare, #2 crossed into the bus drivers personal/safe space #3 made physical contact FIRST with the bus driver


Aside from the professionalism bullshit, and moral shit, she picked that fight, and had it been with a woman of the bus drivers size, we would all say that she was stupid for picking a fight she can't win....same goes with the male bus driver.

IMHO your argument of size, gender, age is irrelevant because it was her choice to pick that fight, had she had half a brain she would've just shut up, appreciated the bus driver not calling the cops on her for not paying.

I still find that you're trying to put this into a "protect my manhood" sort of deal...it's not like that, yes I agree that there could have been other methods, but with raging emotions, embarrassment and m sure the thought of his safety ( she may have been armed) he reacted in the only way his body thought was reasonable....psychologists call it 'fight or flight' there was not where for hm to run, so he stood her ground.

Now, I agree with what he had to do, and I WAS 'disciplined' as a child, and I know damn well my moral compass points as North as any, and I do have a mother and a sister, and as much as I would be pissed off that someone man or woman physically 'abused' them, they provoked it, again, I will not say they deserved it.

Stop thinking about this as a man v woman deal....to all of you who make it that way...the bus driver felt he was in danger and reacted, don't put yourself so high above everyone else on this 'moral compass' shit, because when it comes down to live or death, not only would you hit one woman, you'll hit as many as you have to to get home safe to your wife and child(children).

Also, no average mentally stable person is going to beat their wife, I've pissed of my gf, and she's hit me out of anger, it's been 5 years since and we're as happy as ever, don't think about it as a 'my daughter' 'my wife' and think real world situations.

Just my POV. I try to be as real as possible


*just so I don't seem like a dick, I don't mean your wife or daughter (child) specifically, just as a general statement, I don't want anyone thinking I'm calling out or using his loved ones as an example of abuse.

Booostin
10-18-2012, 12:39 PM
Good opinion article http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/opinion/granderson-common-sense/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

Best quote by Mr Granderson, "My mother can certainly be rough around the edges at times, but she also taught me to have compassion for people who have been wronged. She taught me to empathize with those who have made mistakes. But most importantly, she taught me that if you act ghetto, you should expect some ghetto stuff to happen to you.

That's karma, east side of Detroit style. Everywhere else it's called common sense."

FoXy
10-18-2012, 01:07 PM
Good opinion article http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/opinion/granderson-common-sense/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

Best quote by Mr Granderson, "My mother can certainly be rough around the edges at times, but she also taught me to have compassion for people who have been wronged. She taught me to empathize with those who have made mistakes. But most importantly, she taught me that if you act ghetto, you should expect some ghetto stuff to happen to you.

That's karma, east side of Detroit style. Everywhere else it's called common sense."

lawl, amen

I just wanted to add that if you are a woman and you hit a man, thats still assault in the eyes of the law so they punish both sexes equally. So IMO, they are equal in this situation.

Booter22
10-18-2012, 01:15 PM
Good opinion article http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/opinion/granderson-common-sense/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

Best quote by Mr Granderson, "My mother can certainly be rough around the edges at times, but she also taught me to have compassion for people who have been wronged. She taught me to empathize with those who have made mistakes. But most importantly, she taught me that if you act ghetto, you should expect some ghetto stuff to happen to you.

That's karma, east side of Detroit style. Everywhere else it's called common sense."

:chuckle i just saw this video today. no speakers at work so i dont get to hear anything, and i dont agree that she should have been hit or a women should ever be hit and it could have been handled much better. however the guy has a wicked follow through on that uppercut. looks like hes done that before.

Default User
10-18-2012, 02:14 PM
First, when threatened violence exists, it is the duty of the person threatened to use all prudent and precautionary measures to prevent the attack;

Secondly, if after having taken such proper precautions, a party should be assailed, he may undoubtedly repel force by force, but in most instances cannot, under the pretext that he has been attacked, use force enough to kill the assailant or hurt him after he has secured himself from danger; such as if a person unarmed enters a house to commit a larceny, while there he does not threaten any one, nor does any act which manifests an intention to hurt any one, and there are a number of persons present who may easily secure him, no one will be justifiable to do him any injury, much less to kill him; he ought to be secured and delivered to the public authorities.

After he has secured himself from danger
The female was held back from further assaults, by the occupants on the bus.

Force by Force
A slap and being spat on vs full out uppercut then being picked up and thrown off a bus

Booostin
10-18-2012, 02:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p9vemxT5_w

lol is this news reporter a joke? "how did it feel like being on the receiving end of one of the most talked about uppercuts" LOL

and the woman's reply "I was on mortal kombat, it was like a finish him" lol wtf this can't be real

Seriously someone set up a legitimate donation page for the driver I would send 5 bucks for htting that chick.

I wanna see him fight epic beard man.

Johns 08 3 GT
10-18-2012, 03:30 PM
Good opinion article http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/opinion/granderson-common-sense/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

Best quote by Mr Granderson, "My mother can certainly be rough around the edges at times, but she also taught me to have compassion for people who have been wronged. She taught me to empathize with those who have made mistakes. But most importantly, she taught me that if you act ghetto, you should expect some ghetto stuff to happen to you.

That's karma, east side of Detroit style. Everywhere else it's called common sense."

Well said. :thumbsup

joedemarco
10-19-2012, 09:47 AM
DU since you posted this " such as if a person unarmed enters a house to commit a larceny, while there he does not threaten any one, nor does any act which manifests an intention to hurt any one, and there are a number of persons present who may easily secure him, no one will be justifiable to do him any injury, much less to kill him; he ought to be secured and delivered to the public authorities." IDGAF about this dumb bus broad....I think that statements exactly what's wrong with this country, in that we protect these ****ing criminals, and literally allow them to get away with breaking into a house with no fear of retaliation of the homeowners.


I better stop here..,bc this rant with get way out of control as I am very stromgly opinionated on that topic, and it's way off topic..

Default User
10-19-2012, 11:02 AM
IDGAF about this dumb bus broad....I think that statements exactly what's wrong with this country, in that we protect these ****ing criminals, and literally allow them to get away with breaking into a house with no fear of retaliation of the homeowners.

This happened in the US - not Canada.
The outcome may have been different here.



I better stop here..,bc this rant with get way out of control as I am very stromgly opinionated on that topic, and it's way off topic..

LMAO

Ozil
10-19-2012, 11:44 AM
he should have just slapped her or something lol... :chuckle

hit26k
10-19-2012, 01:06 PM
he should have just slapped her or something lol... :chuckle

Yes, because slapping a woman is more ideal in any situation...

Booostin
10-19-2012, 01:10 PM
Let's be clear about this. It is not just any slap... it must be a pimp slap.

ZeroChalk
10-19-2012, 01:49 PM
Here you're being a complete hypocrite, previously you said that those of us who agree this is her parents fault for not raising her right were incorrect, we'll sir, that being said, she's the person who #1 broke the law of not paying her bus fare, #2 crossed into the bus drivers personal/safe space #3 made physical contact FIRST with the bus driver


Aside from the professionalism bullshit, and moral shit, she picked that fight, and had it been with a woman of the bus drivers size, we would all say that she was stupid for picking a fight she can't win....same goes with the male bus driver.

IMHO your argument of size, gender, age is irrelevant because it was her choice to pick that fight, had she had half a brain she would've just shut up, appreciated the bus driver not calling the cops on her for not paying.

I still find that you're trying to put this into a "protect my manhood" sort of deal...it's not like that, yes I agree that there could have been other methods, but with raging emotions, embarrassment and m sure the thought of his safety ( she may have been armed) he reacted in the only way his body thought was reasonable....psychologists call it 'fight or flight' there was not where for hm to run, so he stood her ground.

Now, I agree with what he had to do, and I WAS 'disciplined' as a child, and I know damn well my moral compass points as North as any, and I do have a mother and a sister, and as much as I would be pissed off that someone man or woman physically 'abused' them, they provoked it, again, I will not say they deserved it.

Stop thinking about this as a man v woman deal....to all of you who make it that way...the bus driver felt he was in danger and reacted, don't put yourself so high above everyone else on this 'moral compass' shit, because when it comes down to live or death, not only would you hit one woman, you'll hit as many as you have to to get home safe to your wife and child(children).

Also, no average mentally stable person is going to beat their wife, I've pissed of my gf, and she's hit me out of anger, it's been 5 years since and we're as happy as ever, don't think about it as a 'my daughter' 'my wife' and think real world situations.

Just my POV. I try to be as real as possible


*just so I don't seem like a dick, I don't mean your wife or daughter (child) specifically, just as a general statement, I don't want anyone thinking I'm calling out or using his loved ones as an example of abuse.

I would argue that it was not fight or flight at all nor was he in any real danger. Both tempers raged and him being a public employee ignoring his responsibilities. The court would look at it negatively because his force was excessive (especially male vs female). If you have a problem, call your supervisor or manager, call the authorities. There is a ALWAYS a proper escalation chain. You taking action to phyiscally remove (especially in the US where it is land of personal lawsuits) a person off your bus is outside the scope of your job and paints a negative picture on the company.

A smart person would have not walked into the fight even if aggrevated. In self-defense case you have to show that the force was proportionate the force that you were threatened. You have to be cautious because it can easily change to assault. JMO.

joedemarco
10-19-2012, 07:36 PM
I would argue that it was not fight or flight at all nor was he in any real danger. Both tempers raged and him being a public employee ignoring his responsibilities. The court would look at it negatively because his force was excessive (especially male vs female). If you have a problem, call your supervisor or manager, call the authorities. There is a ALWAYS a proper escalation chain. You taking action to phyiscally remove (especially in the US where it is land of personal lawsuits) a person off your bus is outside the scope of your job and paints a negative picture on the company.

A smart person would have not walked into the fight even if aggrevated. In self-defense case you have to show that the force was proportionate the force that you were threatened. You have to be cautious because it can easily change to assault. JMO.

Fair argument. I can respect your POV.

Rebuttle: he was driving at the time she hit him, for the safety of the passengers he safetly stopped the bus and defended himself ( I'm not going down without a fight lol) when I look at this I don't take into account that he's an employee, by what about the cabbies that get robbed every year? I feel that should be able to stand up and defend themself, despite it being saints a customer, to keep themself safe and to 'disable' the criminal from the act.

Im more hung up on ppl getting overwhelmed that its a man vs woman, im sorry, but to be honest, if I felt my life was in danger ( which he very easily could have felt, I'm not sure what crime rate is lime there) and its a woman or multiple women, I'm doing whatever the heck I have to to get out alive. I understand why you say it's not a fight or flight response, but I disagree because like I already said, he was driving, first priority is to keep passengers safe...bus stopped...passengers safe...body says 'ok, they're good, now protect yourself.

And I know what you're going to say ' yeah but it was delayed, and it was a won" we'll IDGAF, he did what he did, his body told him it was the right thing to do, I don't feel like it was excessive, one punch, disabled the culprit, and he removed her from the premises to keep the passengers safe....anyone think that sounds like a club bouncer? I do.

I just love to debate. I'll back my point as long as I can relate it to something, so we can be in for a long haul here LOL!!

joedemarco
10-19-2012, 07:47 PM
This happened in the US - not Canada.
The outcome may have been different here.



LMAO

I understand it happened in the USA but our 'home defence laws ' a very similar to theirs and I say it's bullshit that I couldn't beat the snot out of the guy who tries to steal my stuff. Ted Nugent has a good rant of home invasions and the way we SHOULD be able to respond to them. I feel exactly how he does. But won't bother be its off topic. But take a look at Ted Nugent if you're interested, I wouldn't mind hearing you're opinion on that in a PM.

Default User
10-19-2012, 08:50 PM
Rebuttle: he was driving at the time she hit him, for the safety of the passengers he safetly stopped the bus and defended himself ( I'm not going down without a fight lol)

The bus stopped at 0:23 into the video - you can see the interior lights come on and the loading door is open.

She didn't touch the driver until 0:28 into the video

It then took him 6 seconds to, nonchalantly, walk 3 feet to where she was standing. That was more than just a "delayed"response - especially when it only took him 3 seconds to pick her body up (in dead weight) - and throw her off the bus.



I still find that you're trying to put this into a "protect my manhood" sort of deal...it's not like that, yes I agree that there could have been other methods, but with raging emotions, embarrassment and m sure the thought of his safety ....


You just proved my point about the driver protecting his manhood when you implied his emotions
("I'm not going down without a fight" .... "..raging emotions, embarrassment)



Im more hung up on ppl getting overwhelmed that its a man vs woman...


My views on a man hitting a woman are quite clear. And the fact that it is a man hitting a woman in this video, is probably the reason why I'm hung up on it.


...but to be honest, if I felt my life was in danger ( which he very easily could have felt, I'm not sure what crime rate is lime there) and its a woman or multiple women, I'm doing whatever the heck I have to to get out alive.

So you would bring a gun to a knife fight? LOL

I don't see how his life was in extreme danger after stopping that bus. That girl couldnt weigh more than 100lbs soaking wet. She obviously didn't have any weapons stuffed in her pants, otherwise (IMO) it would've been used rather than her slapping and spitting at him. She even backed up a few steps when he got up (showing her now in defence mode.)


...his body told him it was the right thing to do, I don't feel like it was excessive, one punch, disabled the culprit, and he removed her from the premises to keep the passengers safe....anyone think that sounds like a club bouncer? I do.


Do you still feel the same way Knowing that the bus was stopped before she hit him?

And it wasn't a single punch. He then had her hands wrapped around her neck and try to choke her.

.


And actually hearing the video now for the first time - that driver was just as ghetto as she was.

In the video - He actually instigated (or at least started talking about) fighting first - and how her face looked all sliced up. And right up to the first punch - all the girl was really doing was calling him a b***.

Even the passengers on that bus that know the whole story said he was out of line. One even said "what are you doing - that's a female"

Default User
10-20-2012, 04:47 PM
And yes - US and CND self and home defence laws are another topic entirely LOL

vinnierap
10-22-2012, 09:01 AM
Put yourself in the same position and lets see how everyones opinion changes. I guarantee if he didnt punch her, she would have continued her assault.

Default User
10-22-2012, 09:23 AM
Also turns out - he didn't even report the incident to his supervisor. Nobody knew of the incident until WSHH loaded the video.


He has since been suspended and removed from duty while the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (RTA) investigates the incident.

"RTA saw the video posted on YouTube of the operator incident on October 11. Through the investigation, we believe the incident occurred on Sept. 18. Upon identifying the driver, he was immediately suspended and removed from duty. His behavior is absolutely unacceptable. RTA apologizes to our customers for this incident. A full investigation continues,” reads a public statement released by the RTA.




Put yourself in the same position and lets see how everyones opinion changes. I guarantee if he didnt punch her, she would have continued her assault.

Ask any married man about controlling rage with females.

Actually - **** that! I'm married....and to a Filipino girl. This bus girl is a walk in the park in comparison. LOL

Booostin
10-22-2012, 09:42 AM
You are a bitch if you let any woman treat you like that

Default User
10-22-2012, 09:43 AM
LMFAO - wife said I'm not allowed to

Booostin
10-22-2012, 09:43 AM
Like I said... lol

Default User
10-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Got bored waiting at the doctors office and decided to follow up on this story

Turns out - he didn't even report the incident to his supervisor. Nobody knew of the incident until WSHH loaded the video.


He has since been suspended and removed from duty while the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (RTA) investigates the incident.

"RTA saw the video posted on YouTube of the operator incident on October 11. Through the investigation, we believe the incident occurred on Sept. 18.

Upon identifying the driver, he was immediately suspended and removed from duty. His behavior is absolutely unacceptable.

RTA apologizes to our customers for this incident. A full investigation continues,” reads a public statement released by the RTA.

Kiyomi
10-22-2012, 04:25 PM
You are a bitch if you let any woman treat you like that

LOL :D

MarkWB
10-22-2012, 04:44 PM
I wanna see him fight epic beard man.

+1 to the max

Prezi
10-22-2012, 07:24 PM
seriousness aside..... someone should make a GIF. If i could I would....

Prezi
10-24-2012, 02:03 AM
so I was browsing youtube and I came upon another video where a guy hits a girl in india.... what do you guys think about this one???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiwXb26mloQ

this is the lead up to the slap...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8M6ggJkBE&feature=related

FoXy
10-24-2012, 08:05 AM
Olddddd video... seen it.

Booostin
10-24-2012, 08:08 AM
seriousness aside..... someone should make a GIF. If i could I would....


http://www.randomruckus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/jazzyjeff.gif

Rob23
11-04-2012, 10:51 AM
dumb bitch got what was coming. don't act like an ignorant piece of crap and this shit wont happen. probably the last time she tries to act "gangster"

FD22
11-04-2012, 11:16 AM
http://www.randomruckus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/jazzyjeff.gif

haha this is good

prinsesa
11-05-2012, 09:59 AM
lol wow