Lance Armstrong's confession

[Nooby31]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_0PSZ59Aws

Cant say I am surprised but at least he admitted it.

[Default User]

I wonder how much money he got for this interview?

I really feel for the 7 people that came in second place for those TdF races. Sure you can strip Armstrong of the gold medals, but what do the rightful winners get?

[FoXy]

I didnt watch the whole thing but maybe someone will know... how the hell did he get away with it for so long?

I found him obnoxious in the interview, I had to change the channel.

[Nooby31]

I wonder how much money he got for this interview?

I really feel for the 7 people that came in second place for those TdF races. Sure you can strip Armstrong of the gold medals, but what do the rightful winners get?

yea i wonder the same stuff. i think he still has to answer to the American Government so whatever money he did get will probably be taken away from him since he has lied to them as well.

[peterm15]

He got around blood tests.
The doping agency admits there is work arounds.

Biking is full of this. There was one of Armstrong's wins that they had to go all the way down to 15'th place to find a guy who cleanly won the race.


The part that gets me the most is he is suing people for false allegations about doping. Yet. He was doping.

[Nooby31]

He got around blood tests.
The doping agency admits there is work arounds.

Biking is full of this. There was one of Armstrong's wins that they had to go all the way down to 15'th place to find a guy who cleanly won the race.


The part that gets me the most is he is suing people for false allegations about doping. Yet. He was doping.

it kind of reminds me of people who think baseball is better when players used drugs. maybe biking is a dull sport and this is just the kind of stuff you need to make it exciting.

[loki]

I wonder how much money he got for this interview?

I really feel for the 7 people that came in second place for those TdF races. Sure you can strip Armstrong of the gold medals, but what do the rightful winners get?

the people that came second didn't dope enough. They don't deserve f**** all either

[midnightfxgt]

I hope he gets sued for all he is worth.

[peterm15]

I hope he gets sued for all he is worth.

He will.

USPS already signed on to a law suit.

[midnightfxgt]

He will.

USPS already signed on to a law suit.

Sweet! I'd love to see him left with nothing lol.

[peterm15]

Sweet! I'd love to see him left with nothing lol.

+1. But in reality they should do that to all the baseball players and what not. The most the baseball players got was not being allowed into the hall of fame.

All this brings me back to Canadian snowboarder at the Olympics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTYwDTxxCw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Seshan]

You can probably bet that almost any top athlete dopes, specially ones that constantly do good. Lance is proof that you can do it and not get caught, the good athletes now how to get around it. I haven't seen the whole interview, but a clip on TV, where he said that he didn't feel it was cheating, but that he was making it a level playing field. I wonder if this will make more athletes come out about doping.

[peterm15]

You can probably bet that almost any top athlete dopes, specially ones that constantly do good. Lance is proof that you can do it and not get caught, the good athletes now how to get around it. I haven't seen the whole interview, but a clip on TV, where he said that he didn't feel it was cheating, but that he was making it a level playing field. I wonder if this will make more athletes come out about doping.

Meh. Let them dope. It ain't my balls.

[loki]

if they made a separate olypmpics just for all the dopers and kept the original olmpics drug free, guess which one people will watch


hells yeah I want to watch a guy run the 100m in 6 seconds

[loki]

and furthermore....

who gives a flying f****...it's sports...

[midnightfxgt]

and furthermore....

who gives a flying f****...it's sports...

He did good raising money for Cancer, but did so under a HUGE lie. People looked up to him, and donated money to someone who "proved" that a cancer survivor could thrive and be the best in the world. He basically made money off the backs of cancer survivors.

He also sued people and cost them fortunes all while lying under oath.

It sucks that the athletes who follow the rules, and play fair don;t see the winnings, endorsements, fame etc that some who cheated and stole did.

[loki]

He did good raising money for Cancer, but did so under a HUGE lie. People looked up to him, and donated money to someone who "proved" that a cancer survivor could thrive and be the best in the world. He basically made money off the backs of cancer survivors.

He also sued people and cost them fortunes all while lying under oath.

It sucks that the athletes who follow the rules, and play fair don;t see the winnings, endorsements, fame etc that some who cheated and stole did.

that's a pretty good point. He also had a wicked cameo in Dodgeball as a result.

that bastard.....

[peterm15]

He did good raising money for Cancer, but did so under a HUGE lie. People looked up to him, and donated money to someone who "proved" that a cancer survivor could thrive and be the best in the world. He basically made money off the backs of cancer survivors.

He also sued people and cost them fortunes all while lying under oath.

It sucks that the athletes who follow the rules, and play fair don;t see the winnings, endorsements, fame etc that some who cheated and stole did.

Or when they do the get assaulted with a 9 iron because they are a " sex addict.". Really sex addict. that's the most made up thing I've ever heard.

[midnightfxgt]

that's a pretty good point. He also had a wicked cameo in Dodgeball as a result.

that bastard.....

Don't forget his testicle in Ted lol

[trulankan]

Or when they do the get assaulted with a 9 iron because they are a " sex addict.". Really sex addict. that's the most made up thing I've ever heard.

+1 everyone "f****d tiger woods up because he cheated on his wife with all those women but what does that have to do with golf? he was the best and now cause of this hes a shadow of the player he used to be. this was a personal problem that got blown up because hes famous and people took advantage of that. this is proof that it sucks to be a celebrity. i think Lance deserves all this shit because he cheated the sport of cycling and lied to everyone about it. I remember him and his rant of the USADA and their "witch hunt" of him. lol I bet hes eating his words now! lol

[Slade]

+1 everyone "f****d tiger woods up because he cheated on his wife with all those women but what does that have to do with golf? he was the best and now cause of this hes a shadow of the player he used to be. this was a personal problem that got blown up because hes famous and people took advantage of that. this is proof that it sucks to be a celebrity. i think Lance deserves all this shit because he cheated the sport of cycling and lied to everyone about it. I remember him and his rant of the USADA and their "witch hunt" of him. lol I bet hes eating his words now! lol


Or stuck eating KD for the next 50years lol.

I am sure there is a criminal charge with lying under oath?

[midnightfxgt]

I bet hes eating his words now! lol

With a gold plated spoon! lol

[midnightfxgt]

Or stuck eating KD for the next 50years lol.

I am sure there is a criminal charge with lying under oath?

I think I read something about it being in 2005, and a statute of limitations applying. Not 100% sure though...

[dexter]

I wonder how much money he got for this interview?

I really feel for the 7 people that came in second place for those TdF races. Sure you can strip Armstrong of the gold medals, but what do the rightful winners get?

Professional road cycling has been a sport filled with doping since the 1880's. This includes what the International Olympic Committee has determined to be the first death due to doping in a competition. As technology advances the number of occurrences of doping in cycling sky rocket and the period in the late 90's early 2000's when Lance "won" is no exception. As seen HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling) the list of cyclists caught in this period is extensive and without a doubt some are surely still slipping under the radar.

Although noble in its intent the thought of trying to choose a true winner in that period is going to be hard. Sure, you could award the prize to the person in second, and then in 2 years when more technology advances and they get caught the process starts over again.


You can probably bet that almost any top athlete dopes, specially ones that constantly do good. Lance is proof that you can do it and not get caught, the good athletes now how to get around it. I haven't seen the whole interview, but a clip on TV, where he said that he didn't feel it was cheating, but that he was making it a level playing field. I wonder if this will make more athletes come out about doping.

With all of the things Lance has seen in the tours I'm sure this is probably pretty close to the truth.

Regardless of Lance's use of banned substances you don't win the TdF popping some pills and getting a blood transfusion. Winning a race of that magnitude requires a lifestyle of diet and elite fitness far beyond what 99% of the population would ever consider attempting. Every rider in that race trains their ass off year round to compete in one of the most gruelling sporting events in the world and Lance is no exception to the dedication and effort required to compete at that level.


He did good raising money for Cancer, but did so under a HUGE lie. People looked up to him, and donated money to someone who "proved" that a cancer survivor could thrive and be the best in the world. He basically made money off the backs of cancer survivors.

I don't think he made money off of the backs of cancer survivors per se as Livestrong is a nonprofit charity and I don't really think the main reason Livestrong is as successful as it is has much to do with Lance's "victories" or his performance on a bike.

Livestrong is brilliant with their marketing strategies and the little yellow wrist band is probably their greatest success to date. Somehow they made the support of cancer charities "fashionable" with a little piece of yellow rubber. And while thats a bit of a catch 22 in the sense that surely there were some that bought them to simply "look cool" even those wearers of the yellow band helped to globally market a very successful charity that has done a lot of good for people living with cancer, cancer survivors, it's victims and their families.

At the end of the day I don't think anyone should regret any donation or support they've given to Livestrong, because at the end of the day they did support a good cause; a reputable cancer charity that has done a lot of good for a lot of people showing, that in fact, cancer survivors can thrive.

[rukus]

the guy lied in several courts of law when suing others for libel. he needs to be charged with perjury and put in prison.

[peterm15]

Just sold his movie rights to paramount. Lol.

[rajin929]

there's no right or wrong.
it's what gets you the most fame and money.

[beyond]

Professional road cycling has been a sport filled with doping since the 1880's. This includes what the International Olympic Committee has determined to be the first death due to doping in a competition. As technology advances the number of occurrences of doping in cycling sky rocket and the period in the late 90's early 2000's when Lance "won" is no exception. As seen HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling) the list of cyclists caught in this period is extensive and without a doubt some are surely still slipping under the radar.

Although noble in its intent the thought of trying to choose a true winner in that period is going to be hard. Sure, you could award the prize to the person in second, and then in 2 years when more technology advances and they get caught the process starts over again.



With all of the things Lance has seen in the tours I'm sure this is probably pretty close to the truth.

Regardless of Lance's use of banned substances you don't win the TdF popping some pills and getting a blood transfusion. Winning a race of that magnitude requires a lifestyle of diet and elite fitness far beyond what 99% of the population would ever consider attempting. Every rider in that race trains their ass off year round to compete in one of the most gruelling sporting events in the world and Lance is no exception to the dedication and effort required to compete at that level.



I don't think he made money off of the backs of cancer survivors per se as Livestrong is a nonprofit charity and I don't really think the main reason Livestrong is as successful as it is has much to do with Lance's "victories" or his performance on a bike.

Livestrong is brilliant with their marketing strategies and the little yellow wrist band is probably their greatest success to date. Somehow they made the support of cancer charities "fashionable" with a little piece of yellow rubber. And while thats a bit of a catch 22 in the sense that surely there were some that bought them to simply "look cool" even those wearers of the yellow band helped to globally market a very successful charity that has done a lot of good for people living with cancer, cancer survivors, it's victims and their families.

At the end of the day I don't think anyone should regret any donation or support they've given to Livestrong, because at the end of the day they did support a good cause; a reputable cancer charity that has done a lot of good for a lot of people showing, that in fact, cancer survivors can thrive.

Well said. I agree.

When everyone in the friggin sport dopes, then they're all on a level playing field right? You'll probably have to get down to the last placed contestant before you can give the prize to someone that doesn't dope.

Not to say all his lying was correct. But I believe (although he lied to the court, defied the legal system, etc) his Livestrong foundation really did do some type of good for the world.

Anyhow, he 'fessed up so let him be lol Though he did sound very obnoxious and such during the interview....

[SirWanker]

Well said. I agree.

When everyone in the friggin sport dopes, then they're all on a level playing field right? You'll probably have to get down to the last placed contestant before you can give the prize to someone that doesn't dope.

Not to say all his lying was correct. But I believe (although he lied to the court, defied the legal system, etc) his Livestrong foundation really did do some type of good for the world.

Anyhow, he 'fessed up so let him be lol Though he did sound very obnoxious and such during the interview....

I would nearly agree with you but Armstrong was a pr*ck in dealing with those people who did not co-operate with his plans (http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/01/20/lance-armstrongs-confession-leaves-those-he-attacked-with-mixed-feelings/ ). Karma will be his mistress for a long time.

[beyond]

Professional road cycling has been a sport filled with doping since the 1880's. This includes what the International Olympic Committee has determined to be the first death due to doping in a competition. As technology advances the number of occurrences of doping in cycling sky rocket and the period in the late 90's early 2000's when Lance "won" is no exception. As seen HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling) the list of cyclists caught in this period is extensive and without a doubt some are surely still slipping under the radar.

Although noble in its intent the thought of trying to choose a true winner in that period is going to be hard. Sure, you could award the prize to the person in second, and then in 2 years when more technology advances and they get caught the process starts over again.



With all of the things Lance has seen in the tours I'm sure this is probably pretty close to the truth.

Regardless of Lance's use of banned substances you don't win the TdF popping some pills and getting a blood transfusion. Winning a race of that magnitude requires a lifestyle of diet and elite fitness far beyond what 99% of the population would ever consider attempting. Every rider in that race trains their ass off year round to compete in one of the most gruelling sporting events in the world and Lance is no exception to the dedication and effort required to compete at that level.



I don't think he made money off of the backs of cancer survivors per se as Livestrong is a nonprofit charity and I don't really think the main reason Livestrong is as successful as it is has much to do with Lance's "victories" or his performance on a bike.

Livestrong is brilliant with their marketing strategies and the little yellow wrist band is probably their greatest success to date. Somehow they made the support of cancer charities "fashionable" with a little piece of yellow rubber. And while thats a bit of a catch 22 in the sense that surely there were some that bought them to simply "look cool" even those wearers of the yellow band helped to globally market a very successful charity that has done a lot of good for people living with cancer, cancer survivors, it's victims and their families.

At the end of the day I don't think anyone should regret any donation or support they've given to Livestrong, because at the end of the day they did support a good cause; a reputable cancer charity that has done a lot of good for a lot of people showing, that in fact, cancer survivors can thrive.


I would nearly agree with you but Armstrong was a pr*ck in dealing with those people who did not co-operate with his plans (http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/01/20/lance-armstrongs-confession-leaves-those-he-attacked-with-mixed-feelings/ ). Karma will be his mistress for a long time.

haha Lance was an @$$ I agree. No doubt karma would hit him. Who knows if his apologies now are even sincere or just a media thing.

[sw33tb3rry]

Just sold his movie rights to paramount. Lol.

Yah hahha I heard about this. Ironically, the movie will be called "Cycle of Lies: the fall of Lance armstrong"
Star Trek director JJ Abrams has the intention of making this a high profile film. HAHA


I won't be watching and I could care less about all this but I think Lance is not stupid and somehow everything he is doing now will pay off big time for him. I think the movie is a start. Trying to attract more fame. That's just my opinion.

[6strings]

Yah hahha I heard about this. Ironically, the movie will be called "Cycle of Lies: the fall of Lance armstrong"
Star Trek director JJ Abrams has the intention of making this a high profile film. HAHA


I won't be watching and I could care less about all this but I think Lance is not stupid and somehow everything he is doing now will pay off big time for him. I think the movie is a start. Trying to attract more fame. That's just my opinion.

Well, he has to get the ball rolling somehow.

[trulankan]

Well, he has to get the ball rolling somehow.

hopefully some money from the movie will go to Livestrong and not into his pocket lol i doubt it tho

[6strings]

my joke went unnoticed

[peterm15]

my joke went unnoticed

Noticed. I don't believe it was as funny as you thought. Lol.

[mEtH]

It was actually noted a while ago that the runners up of a number of those races already stepped up and admitted to doping. So you would have to work your way down to the 4th or 5th place in a bunch of cases to find the real winner!

[peterm15]

It was actually noted a while ago that the runners up of a number of those races already stepped up and admitted to doping. So you would have to work your way down to the 4th or 5th place in a bunch of cases to find the real winner!

In one case they had to go all the way down to 15th place to find someone who wasn't doping.

[beyond]

In one case they had to go all the way down to 15th place to find someone who wasn't doping.

I think they'd have to go even further...

last placed contestant will win lol

[Aitch]

Enter Tour de France. Don't dope. Take 23hrs to complete each stage. Win by default.

[6strings]

Noticed. I don't believe it was as funny as you thought. Lol.

dammit!

[geobur]

Enter Tour de France. Don't dope. Take 23hrs to complete each stage. Win by default.

lol do it up Aitch, I will sponsor you...and your resulting charity when you win :p

[6strings]

Everything in every industry is a big fat lie.

[dexter]

lol do it up Aitch, I will sponsor you...and your resulting charity when you win :p

Haha, good luck with that! Even running the cheapest team you're looking about 5 million a season to compete in the TdF. The better, well known, teams can be 20+ million dollars. :loco

[loki]

Haha, good luck with that! Even running the cheapest team you're looking about 5 million a season to compete in the TdF. The better, well known, teams can be 20+ million dollars. :loco

not to mention the distance you actually have to ride.....

drugs or no drugs....

[Aitch]

not to mention the distance you actually have to ride.....

drugs or no drugs....

Pfft. At least half of it is downhill.

[Aitch]

A good read.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/01/a-former-cyclist-reflects-i-would-have-done-what-lance-armstrong-did/267361/#.UP87a03wUBM.facebook

[dexter]

Great read Aitch. There's a lot of that I agree with particularity:



So how, in the end, do you think we ought to view Lance Armstrong?

With tremendous admiration for what he's accomplished, and vehement disapproval of the way he treated the other human beings in his life. There's no excuse for that.

I think that pretty much sums things up. Great cyclist regardless of his substance use but an idiot in the way he treated many people who were telling the truth about him.