Can i get 200hp on my '13 m3 gt?

[Mauri]

Hey guys! So i'm a bit of an amateur when it come to the mod world, only know the basics. Is wanting 200hp out of my car realistic? What would I have to do? Some feedback with some personal experience and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Fack_Dude]

Hey guys! So i'm a bit of an amateur when it come to the mod world, only know the basics. Is wanting 200hp out of my car realistic? What would I have to do? Some feedback with some personal experience and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

sell car and buy speed3

[The Wolf]

No

[zzz3]

2013 M3? you already have 400hp+

[Kiyomi]

this thread made my day. :D

start slow, look at other rides, read and talk to others and learn as much as you can.

spend 10k+ or buy speed 3. done.

[Hyperion]

Or talk the loser boy above me.

[r4mi5awi]

But you can definitely get 002hp!!!

[Dave_The_BMXER]

No

This.

[silverstarmazda]

This.

That.

[Lummix]

That.

The other thing.

[pwdunmore]

Hey guys! So i'm a bit of an amateur when it come to the mod world, only know the basics. Is wanting 200hp out of my car realistic? What would I have to do? Some feedback with some personal experience and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

You'll spend way to much money in that process of modding your GT... easier and cheaper to buy a car with a turbo or an engine closer to 200hp.

[thirdgen3]

2013 M3? you already have 400hp+

Lol.

[slam525i]

I'll try and be nice.

1. 200 HP when stock is 167 is going to require a lot of work. It's a much better idea to just start with something with more HP. (Just like everyone else is saying.)

2. Why do you WANT 200 HP? What else have you done with the car? The stock tires can't even lay down 200 HP in first gear. Start with tires and work you way up, depending on how much you have to spent.

3. Horsepower increases isn't really as fun as you might think it is. I've driven cars with more HP, and I've driven cars with 2-digit HP. Less power can be more fun cuz you can spend more time full-throttle. I wouldn't want 200 HP in a FWD just because it's hard to lay it down neatly. (Personal opinion of course.)

4. The best way to make the car go faster is to drive it better. (Don't know what your driving skills are like, but everyone can use improvement.)

[CH0SiiN1]

Should of used the search engine.. this has been asked many times

Easiest way to get 200hp is to round up to the closest 100.. so next time someone asks "hey how much hp you got" you can reply "around 200" lol

[gotak]

I'll try and be nice.

1. 200 HP when stock is 167 is going to require a lot of work. It's a much better idea to just start with something with more HP. (Just like everyone else is saying.)

2. Why do you WANT 200 HP? What else have you done with the car? The stock tires can't even lay down 200 HP in first gear. Start with tires and work you way up, depending on how much you have to spent.

3. Horsepower increases isn't really as fun as you might think it is. I've driven cars with more HP, and I've driven cars with 2-digit HP. Less power can be more fun cuz you can spend more time full-throttle. I wouldn't want 200 HP in a FWD just because it's hard to lay it down neatly. (Personal opinion of course.)

4. The best way to make the car go faster is to drive it better. (Don't know what your driving skills are like, but everyone can use improvement.)

Right but being the driver of a MS3 I must say more than 200 hp can be quite fun. In the why is my car steering itself sort of way LOL. Still for me torque steer is it not that different from breaking the rear lose on a powerful RWD car. Both still require you to do something about it to control it and both can be eliminated by not using the right foot so much.

[2012speed3]

Right but being the driver of a MS3 I must say more than 200 hp can be quite fun. In the why is my car steering itself sort of way LOL. Still for me torque steer is it not that different from breaking the rear lose on a powerful RWD car. Both still require you to do something about it to control it and both can be eliminated by not using the right foot so much.

Very informative :rolleyes

OP: Not unless you want to spend large $$$, head porting, bigger valves, higher compression, more fuel, better flowong intake and exhaust..... doable yes..... feasible no!

[silverstarmazda]

a lot of people say this. the speed comes from the suspension and how you drive. driver mod is one of the first things you need to do if you want to become faster. and since you cant really squeeze out much power from the mazda 3, its best to work on the handling and braking.

[6strings]

a lot of people say this. the speed comes from the suspension and how you drive. driver mod is one of the first things you need to do if you want to become faster. and since you cant really squeeze out much power from the mazda 3, its best to work on the handling and braking.

yeh but the fellow wants 200hp

[silverstarmazda]

yeh but the fellow wants 200hp

problem solved lol

http://imageshack.us/a/img502/6476/dsc0004zg.jpg

[Fack_Dude]

This thread is full of fail. OP quit before your ahead. Lol

[2012speed3]

fack_dude recommends you sell your car :chuckle

[SKYMP3]

Even you get it to 200 hp, it is only 200hp, you know.

[CelestSpeed3]

Or talk the loser boy above me.

I had a feeling you were a catcher, just figured it would be with better company.

[SomeGuy]

Even you get it to 200 hp, it is only 200hp, you know.

Yeah, the real fun comes when you have 300whp :)

In any case, is it possible to get 200? Yes...should you bother? No

Oh and "laying down" 200hp is no problem. Ask some of the guys on here with 400hp MS3's what it's like to try to get the power to the road lol

[6strings]

:lock

[FoXy]

:lock

lol +1

[loki]

I don't see why this has to be locked

People mention it being asked many times but I don't see any links


Kiyomi is trying to make 200whp so I don't see why this guy can't do the same

[silverstarmazda]

there is always a way if your willing to pay. all depends on OP if he/she wants to play.

[Aitch]

I don't see why this has to be locked

People mention it being asked many times but I don't see any links


Kiyomi is trying to make 200whp so I don't see why this guy can't do the same

+1. People are all "DIZZAM Kiyomi your car is BALLZZZ" but someone else asks (in an admittedly noob-ish way) about the same thing and its all "sell your car dawg".

[Lockdown]

N2O, and you're good to o.
2 hour install and under $600
Go nuts

[Flagrum_3]

N2O, and you're good to o.
2 hour install and under $600
Go nuts

LOL, I was thinking the same thing....Cheap and simple....but dangerous.

_3

[6strings]

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?33085-looking-for-more-power&highlight=More+Power

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?66013-Improving-horsepower-and-torque&highlight=Turbo

OK fine, getting more power is doable, with the, right amount of money almost anything is possible.

Maybe get a turbo? Oh wait:http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?63130-I-WANT-MORE-POWER!!!!&highlight=Turbo

[Mauri]

Alright! well thanks for the feedback! According to sliverstar I guess I gotta start on braking and handling, but where to start? Is wanting more responsive acceleration too much to ask?

[Fack_Dude]

Alright! well thanks for the feedback! According to sliverstar I guess I gotta start on braking and handling, but where to start? Is wanting more responsive acceleration too much to ask?

Go buy yourself a sprint booster and call it the day. Like I said before, you are wasting money for nothing on your ride.

[silverstarmazda]

Go buy yourself a sprint booster and call it the day. Like I said before, you are wasting money for nothing on your ride.

+1

make your car more responsive in terms of acceleration and handling. no point in trying to squeeze out more power and risk blowing something. it takes time and money to add power properly.

[mikey32235]

lmfao @fastdude

[Dave_The_BMXER]

Kiyomi is trying to make 200whp so I don't see why this guy can't do the same

I actually had no idea that was going on. Guess I should poke my head in more second gen threads.

[gotak]

I don't see why this has to be locked

People mention it being asked many times but I don't see any links


Kiyomi is trying to make 200whp so I don't see why this guy can't do the same

Not to mention all the fun pokers seems to have a few bolt ons themselves. While telling people about driver mods etc. Seriously, kettle calling pot?

[McGoldie]

If you want more horse power you are better off selling and buying something else.
That's what I'm doing.

[Genpu_Mz3]

I always love reading these threads.

[TheMAN]

it's called a "MZ3", not a "M3" :rolleyes

[Odin]

Alright! well thanks for the feedback! According to sliverstar I guess I gotta start on braking and handling, but where to start? Is wanting more responsive acceleration too much to ask?

First mod I had on my 2010 GS was Corksport's Short Ram Intake (SRI). While it doesn't give a whole lot in terms of power, it should at least give you better throttle response.

[Shinglez]

I also would like to do this to my MZ3...could I reach 200hp by having a 1:1 compression ratio?

[slam525i]

I also would like to do this to my MZ3...could I reach 200hp by having a 1:1 compression ratio?

I think you'd be making more like 20 hp with a 1:1 compression. :P

[midnightfxgt]

General rule of thumb here:

- If you have to ask how to make 200WHP, people say to buy a MS3
- If you start building with a goal of 200WHP, people approve.

- John

[CH0SiiN1]

As mentioned, buy a SRI and CBE.. you may only get 5 or 10HP out of it, but you do get a better reaction from throttle response, especially if you add in a header and RMM.. You also sound like you got more horses.
Thats pretty much all we can do with the MZ3's without spending 1000's on a extreme mod

[Hyperion]

General rule of thumb here:

- If you have to ask how to make 200WHP, people say to buy a MS3
- If you start building with a goal of 200WHP, people approve.

- John

Very true.
It's because we don't want to baby, and if you aren't resourcefull enough to find out yourself, it will usually not end well.

[geobur]

This thread is full of fail. OP quit before your ahead. Lol

Agreed, the amount of failed attempts at old sayings is painful... I think you meant to say "OP quit while you are ahead"


Not to mention all the fun pokers seems to have a few bolt ons themselves. While telling people about driver mods etc. Seriously, kettle calling pot?

...the saying is "pot calling the kettle black"

:bang

[Mauri]

Isn't me asking for suggestions and feedback being resourceful? I mean obviously I've done my own research and googled plenty of the things mentioned on this thread. But I thought I would ask here since your all mazda 3 experts and would know more about mazda specific mods. Isn't that part of the reason these forums exist anyway? For those with helpful info, thanks for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. If you have nothing useful to say than why bother posting?

[loki]

Isn't me asking for suggestions and feedback being resourceful? I mean obviously I've done my own research and googled plenty of the things mentioned on this thread. But I thought I would ask here since your all mazda 3 experts and would know more about mazda specific mods. Isn't that part of the reason these forums exist anyway? For those with helpful info, thanks for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. If you have nothing useful to say than why bother posting?

actually, simply asking a question is not being resourceful

If you've done some research etc. then share your research and some ideas etc. and then people might take you more seriously.


here's your first post again...


Hey guys! So i'm a bit of an amateur when it come to the mod world, only know the basics. Is wanting 200hp out of my car realistic? What would I have to do? Some feedback with some personal experience and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

nope, not resourceful

[6strings]

So... then is it possible to get 200hp out of a N/A Mazda3?

[standsideways]

Built high compression with dirty cams and stand alone yep no problem.

Paying for it? LOL $$$$$

driveable? Not very DD friendly

[2012speed3]

Built high compression with dirty cams and stand alone yep no problem.

Paying for it? LOL $$$$$

driveable? Not very DD friendly

Done right it should have no issues being DD, economy however would go out the window and would most likely loose some grunt down low.

[terapr0]

thats assuming a N/A build, which he he didn't specify. He could always go the custom turbo route. Definitely not cheap, but most certainly possible.

....neither scenario is likely to play out. I think we all know this

[Lockdown]

LOL, I was thinking the same thing....Cheap and simple....but dangerous.

_3

How is it a dangerous? Because of the fast and the furious movie?
Really I don't think people (not saying you) understand the way an engine works.
The most dangerous thing about it, is the transportation, which is the same as transporting propane for your BBQ
Agreed, it is not for everyone but neither should be any modifications to their powertrain

[6strings]

How is it a dangerous? Because of the fast and the furious movie?

Danger to manifold?
http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r620/clint_nicholson/E9586CBE-A078-4CAC-8D7E-F3B3CA7C34A9-9339-000002AD7EADE5D2_zpsa2e4c692.jpg

[midnightfxgt]

How is it a dangerous? Because of the fast and the furious movie?
Really I don't think people (not saying you) understand the way an engine works.
The most dangerous thing about it, is the transportation, which is the same as transporting propane for your BBQ
Agreed, it is not for everyone but neither should be any modifications to their powertrain

I think the fact that it's not exactly legal, scares away a LOT of people. Yes I know the system is not illegal, but the hookup etc etc... it's not a very feasible DD device is what I mean.

Your right though... people assume nitrous equals some fun and a blown motor simultaneously :)

[Lockdown]

I think the fact that it's not exactly legal, scares away a LOT of people. Yes I know the system is not illegal, but the hookup etc etc... it's not a very feasible DD device is what I mean.

Your right though... people assume nitrous equals some fun and a blown motor simultaneously :)

Not feasible to use every day for sure. Just install the bottle for when you'll actually use it.
I know you know this but others may have forgotten, most of the modifications we do to our cars are illegal.

Who remembers the Saleen Focus N2O, Nitrous production car

[6strings]

Not feasible to use every day for sure. Just install the bottle for when you'll actually use it.
I know you know this but others may have forgotten, most of the modifications we do to our cars are illegal.

Who remembers the Saleen Focus N2O, Nitrous production car

was that just hooked up but not loaded with NO2? something about voiding warranty?

[Rob23]

Isn't me asking for suggestions and feedback being resourceful? I mean obviously I've done my own research and googled plenty of the things mentioned on this thread. But I thought I would ask here since your all mazda 3 experts and would know more about mazda specific mods. Isn't that part of the reason these forums exist anyway? For those with helpful info, thanks for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. If you have nothing useful to say than why bother posting?

No one here is a Mazda specialist lol just enthusiast. The Mazda 3 isn't very easy to tune and get more power from. There are a few members working on this and having to spend a bundle so if your that persistent on getting more power, I hope you have deep pockets.

[captobvious75]

Sell your car and buy a speed3.

[Flagrum_3]

How is it a dangerous? Because of the fast and the furious movie?
Really I don't think people (not saying you) understand the way an engine works.
The most dangerous thing about it, is the transportation, which is the same as transporting propane for your BBQ
Agreed, it is not for everyone but neither should be any modifications to their powertrain

Well although you didn't direct your statement to me, you did respond to my post. Soooo; All things being equal, I was rebuilding and building engines decades before the Fast and Furious movies lol, and know a bit about engine performance improvements.... Nitrous,If not set-up properly, can blow any motor. Nitrous remember increases the compression substantially and if an engine is designed to only perform to a certain compression ratio and you instantly increase that compression, it 'could' have dier consequences. Thats all I'm saying....it's risky.


_3

[2012speed3]

No one here is a Mazda specialist lol just enthusiast. The Mazda 3 isn't very easy to tune and get more power from. There are a few members working on this and having to spend a bundle so if your that persistent on getting more power, I hope you have deep pockets.

There is always standalone systems which can be used, AEM, Megasquirt etc. Lets be honest here what do you really know about getting a engine to make more power? You don't need to be a Mazda specialist to make power all internal combustion engines use the same concept.

[silverstarmazda]

plus you also need to mess around with the ECU to make use of all the power. which is not cheap

[Lockdown]

Well although you didn't direct your statement to me, you did respond to my post. Soooo; All things being equal, I was rebuilding and building engines decades before the Fast and Furious movies lol, and know a bit about engine performance improvements.... Nitrous,If not set-up properly, can blow any motor. Nitrous remember increases the compression substantially and if an engine is designed to only perform to a certain compression ratio and you instantly increase that compression, it 'could' have dier consequences. Thats all I'm saying....it's risky.


_3

I really don't care how long you have been building engines or about the fast and the furious. I'll admit, I haven't been working on cars as long as you, I've only been seriously playing with cars for twenty or so years.
Nitrous for the money is the best bang for the buck.
You mention if not set up properly. How many things can't blow up your engine if not set up properly.
Any power adder if not set up properly will window the block.
Is it more dangerous than a turbo? What about a supercharger?
If the refills were cheaper, I would run it in my daily.

You can add nitrous to any vehicle in a weekend if its your first time.
I have personally installed a dry kit in 3 hours and in terms of nitrous set ups, I'm pretty much a rookie, having only installed a dozen or so. No blown motors from any of the cars.
I've probably installed the same amount of turbo kits, again, no blown motors.

If the OP wants 200FWHP, tell me what is the most cost effective, and quickest way to get there.
It also doesn't affect gas mileage, turn the system off and back to normal

I am interested in some of your builds.
Even with a difference of opinion, I would like to see and hear about what you have built in 35+
years

[Lockdown]

Don't take offense to what I wrote but it would be cool if you posted about all your builds over the last 35+ years

[silverstarmazda]

doesnt NO2 rack up milage more quickly too? more wear over time for a daily driver? i understand its not gonna be on all the time. but i rather have a turbo than a nitrous kit if i was given the choice. even if the nitrous kit is cheaper.

and wasnt there a myth about using a specific type of engine oil if you running nitrous?

[Rob23]

There is always standalone systems which can be used, AEM, Megasquirt etc. Lets be honest here what do you really know about getting a engine to make more power? You don't need to be a Mazda specialist to make power all internal combustion engines use the same concept.

Is this directed to me or OP? From what I can see from many others attempting this is that it is expensive and unreliable. Thats all I was saying. And from what I hear from other tuners is that the Mazda is difficult to tune to get more power from. yes anyone can have a turbo slapped on. but thats not what i was talking about.

[Lockdown]

doesnt NO2 rack up milage more quickly too? more wear over time for a daily driver? i understand its not gonna be on all the time. but i rather have a turbo than a nitrous kit if i was given the choice. even if the nitrous kit is cheaper.

and wasnt there a myth about using a specific type of engine oil if you running nitrous?

I'm just going to stop you right there and say that all your statements are wrong and you have no experience with it and don't know what you are talking about.
Thanks for playing the "add to my post count but I have nothing useful to say' game. Sometimes if you don't know, it's ok just to say nothing. You don't have to chime in on everything,if you have nothing of value to add or don't know what you are talking about.

More mileage? LOL that's the funniest thing I have heard in a while. You must be talking because of the increase in power and the lack of traction. Also please keep it as N2O rather than NO2, two totally different things. You are talking about Nitrogen Dioxide. I have no experience with that.

[loki]

I'm just going to stop you right there and say that all your statements are wrong and you have no experience with it and don't know what you are talking about.
Thanks for playing the "add to my post count but I have nothing useful to say' game. Sometimes if you don't know, it's ok just to say nothing. You don't have to chime in on everything,if you have nothing of value to add or don't know what you are talking about.

More mileage? LOL that's the funniest thing I have heard in a while. You must be talking because of the increase in power and the lack of traction. Also please keep it as N2O rather than NO2, two totally different things. You are talking about Nitrogen Dioxide. I have no experience with that.

mark, have my babies

I can stop by tonight

[silverstarmazda]

I'm just going to stop you right there and say that all your statements are wrong and you have no experience with it and don't know what you are talking about.
Thanks for playing the "add to my post count but I have nothing useful to say' game. Sometimes if you don't know, it's ok just to say nothing. You don't have to chime in on everything,if you have nothing of value to add or don't know what you are talking about.

More mileage? LOL that's the funniest thing I have heard in a while. You must be talking because of the increase in power and the lack of traction. Also please keep it as N2O rather than NO2, two totally different things. You are talking about Nitrogen Dioxide. I have no experience with that.

im not stating anything as i DONT know anything about no2 system. which is why im asking. just some people make this stuff up and i would like to know the truth. thanks for the info. no need to fly off the handle like that

[loki]

im not stating anything as i DONT know anything about no2 system. which is why im asking. just some people make this stuff up and i would like to know the truth. thanks for the info. no need to fly off the handle like that

N20

[Fobio]

In fact...this thread should be stickied...with all posts saved from deletion...

[loki]

In fact...this thread should be stickied...with all posts saved from deletion...

I won't let anything "good" get deleted

:chuckle

May even be "hall of shame" worthy

[Booter22]

:pop

i have had the pleasure a few years back to drive my buddies VW rabbit with ITBs and nitro with an automatic bottle opener and that was an instant 100hp. sadly he sucked at playing with his own tune. forgot he leaned it out in 5th a bit as we drove down to waterfest with it. so it got pretty good fuel econ there... but on the way back forgetting the tune and racing with an S2000. he fried the rings pretty good. ( least i think it was the rings) but was an easy bottle fill up at performance improvements, and we didnt get stopped at the boarder when driving over with it hooked up. they didnt seem to notice it was hooked up on the way back over when they stopped us. but still.. to try and deal with driving with it hooked up or not and getting a ticket if they can see it is a hassle by itself.

HOWEVER..

that all said and done.. what is a better set up would you say? Wet nitro( play the safe card i believe and not worry about a tune?) or Dry nitro?

and, Could you tell me right quick what would be a better motor for my Skyline, a Gallo 12 or a Gallo 24?
:nothing smiley

[Flagrum_3]

Don't take offense to what I wrote but it would be cool if you posted about all your builds over the last 35+ years

Most of my builds were early in my career and I did numerous builds, and many high performance builds, dabbling in all forms such as; turbos, blowers, N2O and naturally aspirated. I didn't just put the parts together, I machined heads, ported, polished etc. I had rebuilt/built several before even leaving high-school, including my 327c.i for my Nova which dynoed at 400hp NA.

I never said nitrous was not the best bang for the buck, in fact I agreed with you but with the stipulation it is 'risky'...Now why don't you explain to the other peeps how Nitrous works, so they can understand how it is different from using a turbo or a blower, neither of which are quite as dangerous as nitrous.

And yes I agree lets sticky this thread.

_3

[Lockdown]

I have no problem explaining it to you and the rest. Just let me know where you would like the lesson to begin and end.
I usually reply to this forum from my phone so this is going to be a shit load to type.
Is it that you want to know how power is extracted from the addition? Or is it chemical make ups ? Or do I have to go back and explain the internal combustion engine? Just tel me what you would like to know and I'll fill you in

[Kiyomi]

^^ maybe you should start from the beginning. :D

but seriously, please do. sticky this thread so we dont get one popping up every week. that way more people are informed of proper info. no hurt in going over basics to the small details. since your offering to do this, also please feel free to offer best ways to make power/proper mod paths/reliability etc. just my 2 cents.

[Flagrum_3]

I have no problem explaining it to you and the rest. Just let me know where you would like the lesson to begin and end.
I usually reply to this forum from my phone so this is going to be a shit load to type.
Is it that you want to know how power is extracted from the addition? Or is it chemical make ups ? Or do I have to go back and explain the internal combustion engine? Just tel me what you would like to know and I'll fill you in

If you read my comment properly you would understand I need no lesson. It was meant for the others. Maybe if they understood how it works, they would then see how it is 'risky' as I say and I'm not talking risky legal-wise.

_3

[Jackal]

Advantages/Disadvantages Of Nitrous Oxide:
Advantages of Nitrous Oxide:
Cost – bang for buck
Easy installation
Car can be used as per normal (fuel economy etc) when switched off. However, if you are using lots of nitrous and consequently have modified your car to allow for this (different spark plugs etc) you will now be driving a car setup for nitrous and running standard tune
Disadvantages Of Nitrous Oxide:
Excessive/over use can cause possible damage to engine, gearbox and clutch
Takes up space in the boot
Carrying compressed bottles can be dangerous
Doesn’t last long – advantage for engine life and the fact that you can have good power for daily driving then additional power when you want/need it. However that bottle will run out

How it works:
The nitrous is forced through a solenoid valve and nozzle into the intake manifold or directly into the cylinder. Once the nitrous exits the nozzle it becomes mostly a gas, 36% of this gas is oxygen. This process of converting from liquid to gas also cools the air, which helps the air carry more oxygen. When the nitrous heats up and combusts, more oxygen is released and this then burns more fuel (more oxygen + more fuel = more power) - the combination of which will increase the power of your engine from as little as 1hp to many hundreds, depending on the application.

Installing N20
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8225/8481125375_9a2bc15363.jpg
Most cars can have nitrous installed. Carburetted or throttle body cars tend to use a plate system. Other cars tend to use either a plate system or a direct port nitrous system. A chip or reprogram of the cars computer will be needed to allow for the use of nitrous oxide or re-jetting on a carburetted car. There are systems that allow the nitrous to be automatically switched on when a certain rpm is reached, or the more traditional button switch option can be used. Some systems can combine the use of a switch/button and the automatic activation method. Installation normally takes between 3-7 hrs and is generally straight forward. Incidently diesel, turbocharged and supercharged cars can also use nitrous oxide.

Installing N20
Nitrous bottle
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8391/8482217150_7d0ca0f430.jpg
Braided or nylon lines
All inlet and outlet nuts and plugs and adaptors
Injectors/Jets – normally sized (metered) for power levels
Maybe a distribution block for fuel and nitrous lines
Solenoids (fuel and nitrous)
Arming button/switch kit


Other Accessories:
Nitrous Gauge:
http://www.performance-car-guide.co.uk/images/Nitrous-Gauge.jpg
Pressure Gauge for bottle, err… so you can keep an eye on the bottle pressure.

Bottle Heater:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8092/8482216914_cd8f9e183e.jpg
Adding a bottle heater will help maintain an ambient temperature. This in turn will help maintain bottle pressure, which is required for optimal performance.

Progressive Timers:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8247/8482216718_8b8e451109.jpg
As mentioned before, these allow you to progressively increase the amount of nitrous released.

Colder Spark Plugs:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8097/8481125447_bd9a9dc566.jpg
The extra heat and pressure generated by nitrous may require you to fit colder and correctly gapped spark plugs.

Source:http://www.performance-car-guide.co.uk/nitrous-oxide.html

[loki]

If you read my comment properly you would understand I need no lesson. It was meant for the others. Maybe if they understood how it works, they would then see how it is 'risky' as I say and I'm not talking risky legal-wise.

_3

So why don't you explain it for everyone's benefit

[Lockdown]

Sweet. That's the same gauge I'm running with my current set up

[asyed]

:pop

[CelestSpeed3]

I didn't read through this whole thing but I will say this:


Regardless of your power goal beyond the typical bolt ons you will need either a piggy pack or a standalone. That will be the single most expensive and the single most advantageous part you will have if you go standalone. However the control you get is second to none. Just be prepared for the costs and consequences involved. If you want something more than 250whp and affordable get a Speed3 and save yourself the frustration.

I was in the same situation with last car. I traded in and never looked back, well I look back to see the losers, lol

[Lockdown]

As stated above, tuning is where it's at. As an example, on a Mazda Protege 130hp (89 fwhp on a Dyno Jet the slush box really robbed the power on those cars) by tuning the car with an intake there was less than a 2hp increase, with a tune alone 15hp, tune, intake, CB exhaust 24 fwhp now that may not seem like a lot but that's over 25% gain. ( All dynos on the same machine and same day) That's something you will feel.

An off the shelf (canned) tune and an intake on my mustang was good for 31 to the tires (which was about 12%).
Tuning just makes the most out of every engine modification you do.

It can also drastically affect your gas mileage. Almost anyone who knows me, has an idea of the mileage I get on my MS3. OEMs have a pretty decent safety margin in their fuel tables and most cars run a little rich and then when you start changing the way the engine breathes, it's needed to make the most out of your parts.

It's expensive but if you really want to search for power, that is the only route other than forced air that will get you results you can feel, rather than hear.

[Flagrum_3]

So why don't you explain it for everyone's benefit

Why? You wouldn't take my word for it anyway! Why not RESEARCH it up yourself?

-By the way Jackel's "How it works" above explains literally nothing, lol.

_3

[Hyperion]

Why? You wouldn't take my word for it anyway! Why not RESEARCH it up yourself?

-By the way Jackel's "How it works" above explains literally nothing, lol.

_3

Can you stop signing your posts like you're writing something important to your boss? It makes you look like a pretentious d**k.

[CH0SiiN1]

Damn

[Tozer]

Can you stop signing your posts like you're writing something important to your boss? It makes you look like a pretentious d**k.

:o

[Nooby31]

Can you stop signing your posts like you're writing something important to your boss? It makes you look like a pretentious d**k.

Dam!

Nooby31:chuckle

[Jackal]

Can you stop signing your posts like you're writing something important to your boss? It makes you look like a pretentious d**k.

To the baus!

_l

[ssolidd]

Lets make this thread more interesting by adding some more noobie questions...

ok I own a 4 dr M3 auto 2008 GX and its 100% stock for now, I want to increase its power too how about if I install an angel eyes, air intake cooler and cat-back exhaust or other loud exhaust would this hellp?

[Thrizzl3]

Lets make this thread more interesting by adding some more noobie questions...

ok I own a 4 dr M3 auto 2008 GX and its 100% stock for now, I want to increase its power too how about if I install an angel eyes, air intake cooler and cat-back exhaust or other loud exhaust would this hellp?

NOS stickers will add +50HP....

What are you smoking?

[S.F.W.]

Lets make this thread more interesting by adding some more noobie questions...

ok I own a 4 dr M3 auto 2008 GX and its 100% stock for now, I want to increase its power too how about if I install an angel eyes, air intake cooler and cat-back exhaust or other loud exhaust would this hellp?

Angel eyes = no effect on power
air intake cooler - Assuming this means Cold Air Intake = 1-3 Horse Power. Cat-Back/"louder" exhaust - Just because an exhaust is louder, does not mean more power. If you get a proper CBE, possible gain 5-7 hose power.

[ssolidd]

NOS stickers will add +50HP....

lol



Angel eyes = no effect on power
air intake cooler - Assuming this means Cold Air Intake = 1-3 Horse Power. Cat-Back/"louder" exhaust - Just because an exhaust is louder, does not mean more power. If you get a proper CBE, possible gain 5-7 hose power.

ok im really saving money right now for this mods im confused about cat-back exhaust and the "exhaust" you told me what kind of exhaust should I buy then that can make it loud and fast at the same time?


If you get a proper CBE, possible gain 5-7 hose power
CBE?

[loki]

Why? You wouldn't take my word for it anyway! Why not RESEARCH it up yourself?

-By the way Jackel's "How it works" above explains literally nothing, lol.

_3

I already have over 200hp in my Mazda 3. No need to research.

[dambay]

I already have over 200hp in my Mazda 3. No need to research.

Hahaha. Man, Flagrum is almost as smart as the guy who posted an MR2 in the rice thread...

[Flagrum_3]

Can you stop signing your posts like you're writing something important to your boss? It makes you look like a pretentious d**k.

Hyperion; Just because it bothers you, I will continue to do so, and because it bothers you I would suggest maybe a phychiatrist.

Loki; I could give a rats ass how much horsepower your car has, but your refusal to do any research on your own, just confirms my thoughts of your uneducated ignorance and the reason for it.

Bambay; And who are you? Do I know you? Would you know what smarts are? ...I doubt it.

I would hope that the moderators would recognize the unwarranted ad hominem attacks here towards my character, which I believe are against site policy and that they would erase those comments and leave only the pertinent and educational comments.


_3

[loki]

Hyperion; Just because it bothers you, I will continue to do so, and because it bothers you I would suggest maybe a phychiatrist.

Loki; I could give a rats ass how much horsepower your car has, but your refusal to do any research on your own, just confirms my thoughts of your uneducated ignorance and the reason for it.

Bambay; And who are you? Do I know you? Would you know what smarts are? ...I doubt it.

I would hope that the moderators would recognize the unwarranted ad hominem attacks here towards my character, which I believe are against site policy and that they would erase those comments and leave only the pertinent and educational comments.


_3

You're so funny

Why so angry?

[loki]

Actually I think all this comments will be moved to the hall of shame thread where they can be viewed for eternity

Hugs and kisses,
Uneducated ignorant loki

[Jackal]

Hyperion; Just because it bothers you, I will continue to do so, and because it bothers you I would suggest maybe a phychiatrist.

Loki; I could give a rats ass how much horsepower your car has, but your refusal to do any research on your own, just confirms my thoughts of your uneducated ignorance and the reason for it.

Bambay; And who are you? Do I know you? Would you know what smarts are? ...I doubt it.

I would hope that the moderators would recognize the unwarranted ad hominem attacks here towards my character, which I believe are against site policy and that they would erase those comments and leave only the pertinent and educational comments.


_3

Actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea

[Zuluwun]

Hyperion; Just because it bothers you, I will continue to do so, and because it bothers you I would suggest maybe a phychiatrist.

Loki; I could give a rats ass how much horsepower your car has, but your refusal to do any research on your own, just confirms my thoughts of your uneducated ignorance and the reason for it.

Bambay; And who are you? Do I know you? Would you know what smarts are? ...I doubt it.

I would hope that the moderators would recognize the unwarranted ad hominem attacks here towards my character, which I believe are against site policy and that they would erase those comments and leave only the pertinent and educational comments.


_3

Hard to make a case for ad hominem remarks if you do the same thing in the same post... just sayin

[loki]

Hard to make a case for ad hominem remarks if you do the same thing in the same post... just sayin






Hope a mod doesn't delete my comments....

[dambay]

Flagrum, we get it, your e-peen is way bigger than ours. Relax bro

[r4mi5awi]

Actually I think all this comments will be moved to the hall of shame thread where they can be viewed for eternity

Hugs and kisses,
Uneducated ignorant loki

Damn, I wanna be a part of history.

[zzz3]

Hyperion; Just because it bothers you, I will continue to do so, and because it bothers you I would suggest maybe a phychiatrist.

Loki; I could give a rats ass how much horsepower your car has, but your refusal to do any research on your own, just confirms my thoughts of your uneducated ignorance and the reason for it.

Bambay; And who are you? Do I know you? Would you know what smarts are? ...I doubt it.

I would hope that the moderators would recognize the unwarranted ad hominem attacks here towards my character, which I believe are against site policy and that they would erase those comments and leave only the pertinent and educational comments.


_3

you have to call someone a homosexual to get banned. everything else is fair game.