Eibach Prokit Idea to raise car slightly for rear camber Q.

[MDMaz3]

So I have a new set of Eibach Prokit's and want to install but don't want to take a chance that the rears will require camber links/plates for the extra money. Would the idea of putting on heavier guage braided nylon/eurethene sleeves at the tops and bottoms of the springs(front and back to ensure uniformity). I saw it at Home Depot and am thinking that would slip over the springs and add about 1/8-3/16 of an inch to the top as well as the bottom, therefore giving me a small enough lift to possibly prevent being out of camber, and a small lift at the same time. I may be at 1 inch drop in the rear and 1.2 in the front? Any ideas comments?

[Aitch]

I don't think that small amount will affect the camber gain much.

On the flip side, I've never added camber links on either of my cars and had no issue with too much negative camber when only lowered on springs. If you get an alignment and they tell you there is too much negative camber, have the toe adjusted a little closer to zero and you'll be fine in terms of tire wear.

[miako]

you shouldn't worry about camber with eibach prokit. What you should worry about is toe.

[loki]

My car needed adjustable camber arms after I installed prokits

[miako]

My car needed adjustable camber arms after I installed prokits

Really? I mean after I had Prokit installed, my tires were messed up, brought it to a tm3 sponsor alignment shop, the guy told me that my cambers are all within spec, but toe was messed up.

[loki]

Because loki's car

[silverstarmazda]

you shouldn't worry about camber with eibach prokit. What you should worry about is toe.

+1 toe is the real killer of tires after lowering, camber just speeds things up. when you lower a car it throws all the suspension specs out the window due to the way its designed. camber, castor and toe is all affected at once. an alignment will reduce this back into spec.

i had prokits on my hatch before i went sportlines and didnt have any problems. it really depends on what kind of wheels/tires/hardware your using too. the prokit is a pretty safe option, what you should be looking into is new struts/shocks to match the new ride height to ensure longevity and proper ride quality.

putting a sleeve on the coil isnt unheard of, tien does this to their springs. however they to tend to wear out and rot off over time. so if you do plan on doing it, youll need some extra super duty stuff. look into silencer rubbers, theyre designed to be used for springs.

http://www.tein.com/products/silencer_rubber.html

[MDMaz3]

+1 toe is the real killer of tires after lowering, camber just speeds things up. when you lower a car it throws all the suspension specs out the window due to the way its designed. camber, castor and toe is all affected at once. an alignment will reduce this back into spec.

i had prokits on my hatch before i went sportlines and didnt have any problems. it really depends on what kind of wheels/tires/hardware your using too. the prokit is a pretty safe option, what you should be looking into is new struts/shocks to match the new ride height to ensure longevity and proper ride quality.

putting a sleeve on the coil isnt unheard of, tien does this to their springs. however they to tend to wear out and rot off over time. so if you do plan on doing it, youll need some extra super duty stuff. look into silencer rubbers, theyre designed to be used for springs.

http://www.tein.com/products/silencer_rubber.html I've picked up some new KYB's , the 551105's for the rear, KYB says they are 20% more dampened, with a new Prokit, I figure with no sagage, I can the insert the following braided sleeves ( linky instead of a pic as I'm not sure how to send a pic off my phone, don't want to do the imageshack setup at the moment) and be done with it.. (http://www.desihose.com/images%5Cproducts%5Clarge%5C368.JPG)http://www.desihose.com/images%5Cproducts%5Clarge%5C368.JPG

[MDMaz3]

I must say, these hoses along with the fact that they are braided, they are also much much thicker. about 1/8 inch or more. So one on top and one on the bottom should alleviate any issues. But thanks for the advice on the TOE-IN Adjustment, I'll have my mech(also does alignments) adjust the toe to accommodate if he needs to. I have a new set of Conti-Extreme's I'd like to last on my 18 inch RX8's.

[silverstarmazda]

best to wait a week or two after lowering to get an alignment. the parts needs to "settle" into the car (even if used).