View Full Version : Any other springs for Gen 1 sedan similar to Racing Beat?
purefocus
10-21-2014, 05:42 PM
I'm shopping around for new springs. Currently on Road Magnets (1.25" version) which are great on smooth roads but I'm getting sick of the rough ride elsewhere. Seems the roads are getting worse and worse where I live. Previously was on ProKits which were a bit more compliant but I would rub going over bumps while turning on occasion, and I didn't like the sort of raked stance they gave with the sedan. Racing Beat's springs seem like a good fit for my criteria, at 0.6/0.5" drop front/rear and only 20% stiffer than stock. Do any other springs exist for gen 1 with a drop of less than 1"? And either equal or very close to equal front/rear drop. I have searched around plenty and it seems not, but maybe I'm missing something obscure. Shocks are Koni yellows and wheels are gen 1 RX-8s, FWIW.
fruitloops
10-21-2014, 07:20 PM
I don't even rub with my sportlines, I'm unsure how you were with prokits.
You won't be able to get much more conservative than the 1.25" Road Magnets/Prokits as far as aftermarket lowering springs go. Like fruitloops mentioned though, rubbing with Prokits and RX8's shouldn't really happen. Maybe you need to stiffen up your Koni Yellows; any idea what stiffness they're set at?
purefocus
10-21-2014, 11:01 PM
Sorry, I should have pointed out that I was on stock dampers when I was running the Prokits. So I never ran them with the Konis, and maybe I would have liked them more if I had. Wanted to do it in one fell swoop so I had the RMs/Konis installed at the same time. And it was only when hitting a bump while turning a corner that the tire would touch the plastic in the wheel well (no fender rub). Anyway I'm pretty set on something very mild, <1" of drop. Guess I'm getting old and boring! Hoping the Racing Beats are just low enough that the RX-8 rims won't look too goofy. Thanks for the comments.
Sorry, I should have pointed out that I was on stock dampers when I was running the Prokits. So I never ran them with the Konis, and maybe I would have liked them more if I had. Wanted to do it in one fell swoop so I had the RMs/Konis installed at the same time. And it was only when hitting a bump while turning a corner that the tire would touch the plastic in the wheel well (no fender rub). Anyway I'm pretty set on something very mild, <1" of drop. Guess I'm getting old and boring! Hoping the Racing Beats are just low enough that the RX-8 rims won't look too goofy. Thanks for the comments.
Ah alright. Fair enough. I'd say you should be fine with the Racing Beats and RX8's.
yearoftherat
10-22-2014, 10:11 AM
For what its worth, RB springs are linear vs Prokits which are progressive.
-Linear spring rates support a constant amount of force at all times regardless of how tightly compressed they become. ie. Tein S-Tech’s provide 179 lbs/in of support up front during normal driving conditions and during hard cornering.
Linear springs tend to be more predictable during hard cornering, but can administer a jarring ride during normal conditions.
-Progressive spring rates are able to support a varied force at different tensions as the coil compress. ie. During normal driving the Eibach Pro-Kit allows a softer 147 lbs/in up front to allow smoother dampening during normal driving, but when pushed to the limits (coils become compressed) they support a much stiffer applied force.
Progressive springs tend to be less predictable than linear springs in situations such as corner exit, but allow softer daily driving.
purefocus
10-22-2014, 11:03 AM
For what its worth, RB springs are linear vs Prokits which are progressive.
-Linear spring rates support a constant amount of force at all times regardless of how tightly compressed they become. ie. Tein S-Tech’s provide 179 lbs/in of support up front during normal driving conditions and during hard cornering.
Linear springs tend to be more predictable during hard cornering, but can administer a jarring ride during normal conditions.
-Progressive spring rates are able to support a varied force at different tensions as the coil compress. ie. During normal driving the Eibach Pro-Kit allows a softer 147 lbs/in up front to allow smoother dampening during normal driving, but when pushed to the limits (coils become compressed) they support a much stiffer applied force.
Progressive springs tend to be less predictable than linear springs in situations such as corner exit, but allow softer daily driving.
Thanks for clarifying. As per info found on another forum, the RB springs are barely firmer than stock: 151/143 F/R vs 150/130, assuming that info is correct. So that should more than satisfy my current craving for comfort. Guessing it'll feel like driving on a cloud after running the Road Magnets for 3+ years with their 310/360 rates.
I also considered switching to 17s for summer instead of changing springs to dial in a bit more comfort, since putting my winter tires (16s) on really smooths things out with the current setup. But these days I wouldn't mind getting the extra ~3/4" of ground clearance back for driving down rough cottage/country roads and the like.
cwp_sedan
10-22-2014, 01:06 PM
RB are certainly firmer than stock. All depends on your struts/shocks as well.
I'm running on RB and Koni Orange and I like them. After a few years though the read coating rusts/comes off a bit.
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