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Nikolas172009
10-28-2014, 08:54 PM
Looking to wake the beast a little which would be better for my 2.0 gen2 hatchback 3?i have muffler delete k&n intake I just wanna wake her up a bit so advice please lol now for a tune where can I get this done.thanks in advance guys.
Matty

Canadianbacon
10-28-2014, 09:54 PM
Not much you can do, get headers and tune. High flow cat catback exhaust

Rogreborn
10-28-2014, 09:59 PM
Headers, catback exhaust and tune thats about it. Or, you could do what im attempting and supercharger the thing; its not for the feint of heart.

SomeGuy
10-28-2014, 10:45 PM
Headers, catback exhaust and tune thats about it. Or, you could do what im attempting and supercharger the thing; its not for the feint of heart.

Oh get over it....until you're done your build you shouldn't even talk about supercharging and "feint of heart".

Kiyomi
10-28-2014, 10:55 PM
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/showthread.php?74940-Mazda-ECU-tunes-potential-single-Group-buy-thread-2-0-2-5&highlight=mazdaedit

Girds
10-29-2014, 05:12 PM
Where's that mighty car mods performance chips myth busted episode link?

ottoyu34
10-29-2014, 05:24 PM
Get a tune. I personally have great results

6strings
11-04-2014, 10:29 AM
Not sure if a chip/tune will do anything.
2.0 was built for fuel economy. Just enjoy the savings.
But there is however a guaranteed method of increasing power, buy a fast car.

Rogreborn
11-04-2014, 01:12 PM
2.0 can be fast. Anything can be fast and can be done for less than buying a new "fast car".

loki
11-04-2014, 01:55 PM
2.0 can be fast. Anything can be fast and can be done for less than buying a new "fast car".

I doubt you could get a Mazda3 2.0 "faster" than just simply buying something else

crasth
11-04-2014, 02:52 PM
I doubt you could get a Mazda3 2.0 "faster" than just simply buying something else
If u want faster get a speed... Less headaches and money imo

Johns 08 3 GT
11-04-2014, 03:00 PM
If u want faster get a speed... Less headaches and money imo

And the bonus of better suspension and brakes. But the big thing, less headaches.

6strings
11-04-2014, 03:08 PM
2.0 can be fast. Anything can be fast and can be done for less than buying a new "fast car".

I'm not a tuner or a mechanic, and don't have any experience with modifying a vehicle to that extent.
So perhaps you're right.

TRECLA
11-04-2014, 03:12 PM
Where's that mighty car mods performance chips myth busted episode link?

i love those two. also like the episode about sri and cold air intake myths

Rogreborn
11-04-2014, 05:15 PM
So far ive budget build my 2.0. I think ive spent $1000. That has got me better suspension and brakes, exhaust, sri and headers. I'm still pricing out my intake manifold for my supercharger but i'm hopeful that will only run me $1500 and the supercharger itself is $100. So for roughly 2500-3000 after a tune ill be running about as fast a stock Speed. I payed $9500 for the car. So for roughly $12000 i have a speed equivalent car. Can i buy a 2010 Mazdaspeed with 75k on it for that?

Rogreborn
11-04-2014, 05:16 PM
Besides modding and tuning a car is fun. Buying something already done is boring.

Canadianbacon
11-04-2014, 05:29 PM
Keep up the good work. Should make a ride thread and update your progress

Fack_Dude
11-04-2014, 08:07 PM
So far ive budget build my 2.0. I think ive spent $1000. That has got me better suspension and brakes, exhaust, sri and headers. I'm still pricing out my intake manifold for my supercharger but i'm hopeful that will only run me $1500 and the supercharger itself is $100. So for roughly 2500-3000 after a tune ill be running about as fast a stock Speed. I payed $9500 for the car. So for roughly $12000 i have a speed equivalent car. Can i buy a 2010 Mazdaspeed with 75k on it for that?

I hope you got jimmys number on speed dial after you blow.

loki
11-04-2014, 08:14 PM
So far ive budget build my 2.0. I think ive spent $1000. That has got me better suspension and brakes, exhaust, sri and headers. I'm still pricing out my intake manifold for my supercharger but i'm hopeful that will only run me $1500 and the supercharger itself is $100. So for roughly 2500-3000 after a tune ill be running about as fast a stock Speed. I payed $9500 for the car. So for roughly $12000 i have a speed equivalent car. Can i buy a 2010 Mazdaspeed with 75k on it for that?

let us know when you're running as fast as a stock speed3

Kiyomi
11-04-2014, 08:59 PM
let us know when you're running as fast as a stock speed3

define faster. 1/4 mile, rolling start, autox, road course?

Rogreborn
11-04-2014, 09:08 PM
I love how negative people get when they hear that a non speed 3 is modding and trying to get their car faster/better.

loki
11-04-2014, 09:10 PM
define faster. 1/4 mile, rolling start, autox, road course?

all

loki
11-04-2014, 09:11 PM
I love how negative people get when they hear that a non speed 3 is modding and trying to get their car faster/better.

I wasn't being negative, I said let us know when you do it

Kiyomi
11-04-2014, 09:11 PM
all

nice. who would like to volunteer a stock speed 3 or modded speed3?
very curious to see where this goes.

loki
11-04-2014, 09:14 PM
nice. who would like to volunteer a stock speed 3 or modded speed3?
very curious to see where this goes.

what are we comparing to?

The future supercharged 2.0L Mazda3?

Rogreborn
11-04-2014, 09:15 PM
I wasn't being negative, I said let us know when you do it

I did not call you out on it.

Kiyomi
11-04-2014, 09:15 PM
what are we comparing to?

The future supercharged 2.0L Mazda3?

yes ofcourse. since it will be the first one in ontario.

loki
11-04-2014, 09:16 PM
yes ofcourse. since it will be the first one in ontario.

we can put it up against mine

loki
11-04-2014, 09:18 PM
Though I am sure I would fail miserably at AutoX

Kiyomi
11-04-2014, 09:18 PM
we can put it up against mine

sounds good. its not up to me, but it would be an interesting fun experiment.

SKyactivmanny
11-04-2014, 09:22 PM
define faster. 1/4 mile, rolling start, autox, road course?

1/4 and rolling is unlikely but theres a chance in autox and roadcourse.

m_bisson
11-09-2014, 02:07 PM
1/4 and rolling is unlikely but theres a chance in autox and roadcourse.

Lol... There's a chance in the two areas where the engine mods matter least and driver skill matters most?

How do you science?

Jackal
11-09-2014, 02:49 PM
we can put it up against mine


sounds good. its not up to me, but it would be an interesting fun experiment.

Oohh the first to get their groceries first wins! That is if you can get past all those minivans going with 300+hp. Loki would surely win this.

On the track not sure. Lol.

loki
11-09-2014, 03:43 PM
Oohh the first to get their groceries first wins! That is if you can get past all those minivans going with 300+hp. Loki would surely win this.

On the track not sure. Lol.

U mad bro?

Jackal
11-09-2014, 08:02 PM
U mad bro?

No.
Was channelling zz3 on this one.

SKyactivmanny
11-10-2014, 01:46 PM
Lol... There's a chance in the two areas where the engine mods matter least and driver skill matters most?

How do you science?


Because fast car =/= fast driver

Hyperion
11-10-2014, 02:15 PM
Because fast car =/= fast driver
*Fast looking car =/= fast driver
Fixed that for you :p

SKyactivmanny
11-10-2014, 05:26 PM
*Fast looking car =/= fast driver
Fixed that for you :p

Meh it really depends.

terapr0
11-10-2014, 06:09 PM
I love how negative people get when they hear that a non speed 3 is modding and trying to get their car faster/better.

It's got nothing to do with being "negative".
Believe it or not you aren't the first person to show up on this forum with grand plans of forced induction for the base 2.0L engine. In my brief tenure here I've probably seen no less than 2 or 3 dozen people like you show up talking big, and not one of them has delivered. I do know of a small handful of people who've successfully pulled off a daily-driveable F/I setup on a N/A mazda engine, but even most of them have parted out because it's not worth the headache. For every 1 person who *actually* follows through, there are probably 100 that bail out before ever leaving the garage.

If you pull this off you'll surely garner the respect and admiration of many members, but until that time you're just another kid blowing smoke and hot air. Perhaps in the meantime you should focus more on doing and less on talking about doing. Prove us wrong!

JackyMS3
11-10-2014, 11:05 PM
You guys are too nice to sugar coat your replies. Allow me to be the ******* and get this non sense delivered to this fellow here.

I am not saying a 2.0 has no potential. Just saying a few grand of "mods" will not make it faster than a stock speed. There is no if and or but, period. Your so called Forced induction will not and CANNOT push that motor beyond a stock speed. Not a chance with a few grand. Your supercharger can not make it happen. What's a safe psi range are you suggesting here that would make this 2.0 a reliable Daily driven car, let's not even get to beating a stock speed. Did you even know how many these so called challenges have been accepted on TM3 forum and failed? you are probably gonna say you are different because you know your shits. TBH, whoever attempted these challenges all "know their shits." I am positive that they know more shits than you do. I don't hang around this forum too much but last time I saw a mechanical inclined dude doing this job, blew 2 sets of motors and still thinks he has a chance turbo charging a 3.

your 2.0 is what? 140ish hp stock? lets say it's 150, whp @ say 120? you need another 100 whp to even get close to a stock ms3 that usually has 220whp. Do you know what it takes to get that 100 wheel horse? You know how stupid this sounds? it's like saying I'm going to push my k04 to 35 psi and triple the timing so I can get 400 whp beating a bt ms3.

I admire your size of your nutsack but your balls just aint big enough for it.

If you still decided to supercharge your motor, go right ahead. Word of advice you need some serious help. Maybe consult with orangevirus and get a more realistic picture on what a 2.0 can do. or at least see what you can do without blowing up shits.

Lmmorden
11-11-2014, 12:14 AM
You guys are
...
blowing up shits.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/50e9aa05786f7ebc0ada80f1a0d653d3.jpg

loki
11-11-2014, 06:16 AM
Shits just got real folks

Default User
11-11-2014, 08:09 AM
LOL

Was OP even talking about boosting his car?

Original thread just mentions wanting more zoom zoom out of his 2.0



And I love how people are (essentially) willing to spend $1000 on a cat back muffler, but not on a tune.

loki
11-11-2014, 08:13 AM
Headers, catback exhaust and tune thats about it. Or, you could do what im attempting and supercharger the thing; its not for the feint of heart.


2.0 can be fast. Anything can be fast and can be done for less than buying a new "fast car".


I doubt you could get a Mazda3 2.0 "faster" than just simply buying something else


So far ive budget build my 2.0. I think ive spent $1000. That has got me better suspension and brakes, exhaust, sri and headers. I'm still pricing out my intake manifold for my supercharger but i'm hopeful that will only run me $1500 and the supercharger itself is $100. So for roughly 2500-3000 after a tune ill be running about as fast a stock Speed. I payed $9500 for the car. So for roughly $12000 i have a speed equivalent car. Can i buy a 2010 Mazdaspeed with 75k on it for that?


Besides modding and tuning a car is fun. Buying something already done is boring.


I love how negative people get when they hear that a non speed 3 is modding and trying to get their car faster/better.


LOL

Was OP even talking about boosting his car?

Original thread just mentions wanting more zoom zoom out of his 2.0



And I love how people are (essentially) willing to spend $1000 on a cat back muffler, but not on a tune.

recap for Default User

Default User
11-11-2014, 09:02 AM
OP was asking about a tune - not boosting his car.

Nothing wrong with wanting a little more pedal pep. Otherwise - why do the 90% of the non-speed owners on these boards bother getting intakes and exhausts?

loki
11-11-2014, 09:21 AM
OP was asking about a tune - not boosting his car.

Nothing wrong with wanting a little more pedal pep. Otherwise - why do the 90% of the non-speed owners on these boards bother getting intakes and exhausts?

thread has been hijacked and the original post has long been forgotten

Default User
11-11-2014, 09:44 AM
LOL

JackyMS3
11-11-2014, 08:41 PM
My apology for the OP, as I saw the stupid response regarding supercharger + 2.0 = not for the feint of heart > stock ms3, I lost my shits.

Replying to the OP, yes, Tune the 2.0... not supercharge please kthxbai

Kiyomi
11-11-2014, 09:22 PM
My apology for the OP, as I saw the stupid response regarding supercharger + 2.0 = not for the feint of heart > stock ms3, I lost my shits.

Replying to the OP, yes, Tune the 2.0... not supercharge please kthxbai

:facepalm

MS3_
12-03-2014, 01:57 AM
you can only do so much to the 2.0L, do I/H/E intake/header/exhaust (full exhaust) if not satisfied, go turbo lol

Flunk
12-09-2014, 09:55 PM
you can only do so much to the 2.0L, do I/H/E intake/header/exhaust (full exhaust) if not satisfied, go turbo lol

Just out of curiosity, what can you get out of a 2.0L with intakes/headers/exhaust? I would consider at least the intake and exhaust if it made a noticeable difference.

Canadianbacon
12-09-2014, 10:20 PM
And custom tune i have for my 2.5, check http://ovtuned.com/index.html he has results of tuned mazdas 2.0/2.3/2.5 well worth it imo