Dynotronics - has anyone in Canada/Ontario done it ? What was your experience ?

[buckethead99]

I have been reviewing ppls Dynotronics tune experiences and I beleive this is something I would liek to complete in 2015.

However, I was just curious if anyone in Canada has completed this and what was your experience with remote tuning ? Any pros and cons ? Or would you have done anything differently it you could do it all over again.

And one last one ... how long did it take to complete your remote tune ?

Thanks for your input in advance.

[SomeGuy]

What car? MS3? or MZ3?

[S.F.W.]

What car? MS3? or MZ3?
MZ3 - From my understanding Dynotronics is a competitor to the Orange Virus tunes.

[r4BBiT]

FYI. Orange Virus tuning is no longer taking Mazda customers. He is moving on to new platform (Ford Fiesta IIRC).

I can't speak about Dynotronics, but when I tried to purchase MazdaEdit license from OrangeVirus it waited over a month and asked for my money back. I purchased the license directly from the developer that makes MazdaEdit software and got the key same same day.

The personal license allows you to tune one car (one VIN) and it cost $250 USD. You will also need Tactrix OpenPort 2.0, which is another $180 USD or so.

[Canadianbacon]

Yea you need tactrix openport 2.0 cost $191.78 with shipping by Fedex there default option.

As for tune i paid $250 for ovtuned with mazdaedit and custom logging and revisions for Tuning package.

Buy here
http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&product_id=17

[S.F.W.]

Do any TM3 members have before/after dyno results showing an increase ? I've been very skeptical as I haven't seen a member post before/after results.

[Kiyomi]

buckethead99 dynotronics is sooo sketchy. alot of people have had issues with him on m3r, but their posts get deleted. He creeped my ride thread to argue that ov didnt know what he was doing on m3r.
I can help walk you through how the program works in order for you to tune yourself or to get a proper tuner to do it and help explain to him how it works. Know that there are risks associated with tuning, especially when you do it yourself and your trying to figure out how to do it.

If your local, I was thinking about holding a get together to discuss tuning and about mazdaedit for fun in the springtime. the software is a bit difficult to understand at first. Brian at Aph needed some time to figure it out, even then he only scratched the surface with cam timing.

the remote tuning takes quite a bit of time, and its not nearly as accurate as a dyno. Plus, its very hard if not impossible to find the best ignition/cam timing degrees without a dyno. plus constantly datalogging on the streets isnt the safest thing.
bottom line, the software works, and works quite well when understood, but the custom tunes from ov and dynotronics havent really ever been verified with a dyno.

when Brian was testing out mazdaedit, was able to gain 15+whp/15+wtq with just cam timing, i/h/e 2.5l. gotta find the graph again.


http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r735/kiyomi_17/CAM003331_zps13afa108.jpg
Highest pull - previous tune with Powermod Piggyback two years ago APH (25 peak ignition timing degree, and 12.5afr)- no cam timing, and no raised rev limiter.
Green Line - APH tune/rnd with Mazdaedit software ( vvti cam timing, upped by 5 degrees)
Orange - OV tune with Mazdaedit software/datalogging (Ov was figuring out the software during this period).
Blue - Stock dyno pull with current mods

[Canadianbacon]

buckethead99 dynotronics is sooo sketchy. alot of people have had issues with him on m3r, but their posts get deleted. He creeped my ride thread to argue that ov didnt know what he was doing on m3r.
I can help walk you through how the program works in order for you to tune yourself or to get a proper tuner to do it and help explain to him how it works. Know that there are risks associated with tuning, especially when you do it yourself and your trying to figure out how to do it.

If your local, I was thinking about holding a get together to discuss tuning and about mazdaedit for fun in the springtime. the software is a bit difficult to understand at first.

Id definitely come to these mazdaedit tune meets where people bring there laptops and cables

[Kiyomi]

Id definitely come to these mazdaedit tune meets where people bring there laptops and cables

interesting. ive been debating on whether or not to do it. depends on amount of interest. maybe ill make a gi thread.

[fruitloops]

Check out some reviews on mazda3forums.com. I know of a active member who just said yesterday with his newest update he can feel the difference. And he knows what he is talking about, he also tracks his car. (Also a moderator on the forum)

[Kiyomi]

Check out some reviews on mazda3forums.com. I know of a active member who just said yesterday with his newest update he can feel the difference. And he knows what he is talking about, he also tracks his car. (Also a moderator on the forum)

lol. he feels the difference? :D
if he knows what hes talking about, he wouldnt need dynotronics. just sayin.

[fruitloops]

lol. he feels the difference? :D
if he knows what hes talking about, he wouldnt need dynotronics. just sayin.
Please explain. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. So everyone who tunes their car doesn't know what they are doing?

[Kiyomi]

Please explain. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. So everyone who tunes their car doesn't know what they are doing?
fruitloops , he went to dynotronics to get tuned. this is instead of getting the software himself and tuning it himself, or working on it himself. my conclusion is, is that how do you come to the idea that he knows what hes talking about when it comes to tuning, when he gets it done by someone else. people who tune their own car usually know what theyre doing, that is if their engine doesnt blow up. so what do you mean by saying that he knows what hes talking about, because hes a moderator or because he tracks?

saying that he "felt" a difference is a very general statement with no dyno numbers to boot as usual. have yet to see any dyno numbers from dynotronics.

after reading your comment again, do you mean an updated map from dynotronics, or a general update of him working on his tune with the software? kinda misleading how you worded that.

[fruitloops]

Update from dynotronics, and I meant he knows what he's talking about regarding mazdas/cars in general, not about tuning lol. I didn't word that very well.

[Kiyomi]

Update from dynotronics, and I meant he knows what he's talking about regarding mazdas/cars in general, not about tuning lol. I didn't word that very well.

lol. its all good.

either way, just my own opinion, stay the f away from dynotronics.
better to learn and diy, or get a local tuner you trust to use the software.

[Hyperion]

I wouldn't go to Dynotronics even if it wasn't my car and I had all the time in the world...because that's what you'd need. His turn around times have reached 3+ weeks for a single reflash.
Plus he blew up a engine because he said 5 knock was okay with boost.
If I were anyone here, I'd take Justin up on his tuning group day. He may not know everything, but he's learn a lot, enough to teach you the basics and help you improve your tune.

[n00bMeiSter]

I wouldn't go to Dynotronics even if it wasn't my car and I had all the time in the world...because that's what you'd need. His turn around times have reached 3+ weeks for a single reflash.
Plus he blew up a engine because he said 5 knock was okay with boost.
If I were anyone here, I'd take Justin up on his tuning group day. He may not know everything, but he's learn a lot, enough to teach you the basics and help you improve your tune.

And he still probably knows 100 times more than dynotronics.

[r4BBiT]

I would be interested in the tuning meet. My knowledge is limited, but I've explored the software for quite some time now and also calibrated my MAF for closed loop (part throttle). I still need to do my closed loop calibration, but my last pull my AFRs were quite off so I wouldn't mind going over this with someone. I asked OV for help on Facebook group, but that didn't get my very far.

I also have little bit of experience with EcuFlash and RomRaider as my buddy has a Subaru and we had disabled one of the codes when his cat died. As a side note Romraider is way better software for modifying ROMs (maps).

[Rogreborn]

Id be interested in meeting up and talking about mazdaedit. I'm currently getting Mat at OVtuning to do my tune, but this is for a boost tune, which apparently takes a lot more in depth knowledge of the software.

[SomeGuy]

Has anyone mucked with both mazdaedit and accesstuner? I'm just wondering how much knowledge can be pulled about the mazda ECU and it's tables and how they relate between the MS3 and MZ3. If all of the timing/fueling/etc tables are the same, then there's TONS of knowledge on how those work for the MS3.

[Girds]

I'd be interesting in learning a bit about tuning especially on the skyactiv to see what can be done

[Kiyomi]

Has anyone mucked with both mazdaedit and accesstuner? I'm just wondering how much knowledge can be pulled about the mazda ECU and it's tables and how they relate between the MS3 and MZ3. If all of the timing/fueling/etc tables are the same, then there's TONS of knowledge on how those work for the MS3.

im still waiting for cobb to release the accesstuner for 2015 wrx. going to be very interesting.

[greyseason]

im still waiting for cobb to release the accesstuner for 2015 wrx. going to be very interesting.
Why's that?

[loki]

Why's that?

Because his mum bought a 2015 wrx a while ago

Back on topic

[genericmoniker]

Speaking from a board centered around 2's, DT has been hit or miss with regards to both turn-around as well as even responding/providing what was paid for.

[Hyperion]

Speaking from a board centered around 2's, DT has been hit or miss with regards to both turn-around as well as even responding/providing what was paid for.
He posted up speed calipers + pads + rotors for sale and I jumped on it. Sent him the money and my address. 3 Days later can't contact him for tracking number....he's been "super busy" This goes on for 3 weeks and finally he responds saying that his receptionist sent them to some American state out west. The only reason he responded was because I filed a complaint on Paypal demanding my money back. That got his attention. He said he would get them back and ship them right away. I asked for my money back and that I would give him the money when he was ready to reship them. No response was ever received.

[Rogreborn]

He posted up speed calipers + pads + rotors for sale and I jumped on it. Sent him the money and my address. 3 Days later can't contact him for tracking number....he's been "super busy" This goes on for 3 weeks and finally he responds saying that his receptionist sent them to some American state out west. The only reason he responded was because I filed a complaint on Paypal demanding my money back. That got his attention. He said he would get them back and ship them right away. I asked for my money back and that I would give him the money when he was ready to reship them. No response was ever received.

Probably wanted you to cancel the claim so you could not dispute it again, and he keeps the money.

[Skyactiver]

I got my 2012 Mazda 3 skyactiv tuned by OV Tuning, and made very impressive gains which I posted in the link below. You can also see their results on a 2.0 MZR:

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-2013-mazda-3-engine-performance/81474-ovtuning-tune-review-thread.html

For everyone that is interested in tuning, I'd stay away from Dynotronics. While getting tuned, I compared log files with an individual (I won't mention) who was getting the exact same car tuned by Dynotronics. After going through a few of their most recent logs when we compared, I noticed that they actually lost power versus stock when I looked at their Vdyno's and time to complete 3rd gear runs (throughout the rpm range). Then I discovered that Dynotronics used completely generic VVT maps which were not suitable for the skyactiv (it appeared that they had no clue what they were doing). Instead, there strategy was to pile on ignition timing and raise the rev limiter (which has never been proven safe on a skyactiv before) to compensate for these bad settings. The secret to tuning a skyactiv is in the VVT settings, and Dynotronics did not have them figured out (after over 8 revisions). Although OV tuning is departing from Mazda ECU tuning, they will leave a nice write-up on how to self tune with MazdaEdit, which will expand on what is already here:

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2012-2013-mazda-3-skyactiv-engine-performance/83474-mazdaedit-tuning-complete-information-release-self-guide.html

Mat from OV Tuning will also allow anyone to access the tune settings (VVT intake & exhaust, ignition timing, etc) that he got good results on for all Mazda 3 models (MZR, MS3, skyactiv, etc). That will be released on dropbox soon from what I've been told.

[Skyactiver]

Hey guys. I'm from Ottawa, and I had my 2012 Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.0 tuned by OV Tuning recently, and I was able to obtain impressive results which I posted in the link below. You can also see results from a MZR 2.0:

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-2013-mazda-3-engine-performance/81474-ovtuning-tune-review-thread.html

I'd stay away from Dynotronics... While getting tuned 2 months ago, I had a peak at several logs from a guy who was being tuned by Dynotronics and has the same car. When looking at their VDyno and time to complete 3rd gear runs, I noticed that their latest tune updates (after 6-8 revisions; over 6 months) produced runs that actually caused a power loss compared to stock run. Then after checking their logged VVT intake and Exhaust settings, I noticed they were way off from the settings that produce power. They were just generic settings that couldn't have been tested prior; the tuner had no clue what works. The trick to getting gains in the skyactiv is the VVT settings... Instead, they poured tons of ignition timing over the bad VVT settings and raised the rev limiter which has never been proven safe with the skyactiv 2.0. I also noticed that aside from the odd person saying they "felt" an improvement, I saw no posts about positive results with actual numbers in any forums. Instead, if you look deeper, you will find bad feedback.

Although OV Tuning is straying away from Mazda tuning, they posted a self-tuning guide at the link below. This will soon be updated with more information for other models:

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2012-2013-mazda-3-skyactiv-engine-performance/83474-mazdaedit-tuning-complete-information-release-self-guide.html

In addition, they will post the actual settings (VVT, ignition timing, etc) that produce power for each Mazda model (MS3, MZR, skyactiv...) for free in a drop box account in the near future. Stay tuned!

[Orangevirus]

Hey everyone, sorry I never really use this forum anymore (and if I didn't respond to you on facebook, my facebook is completely flooded with PM's every single day).
*edited* I don't think it's my place to say


for the MS3 side, there is so much cobb doesn't have that mazdaEdit does. I tuned a local MS3 on mazdaEdit, GTX3071 @26psi put down 425WHP.


This is our post, by my co-tuner Derrick C.
http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2012-2013-mazda-3-skyactiv-engine-performance/83474-mazdaedit-tuning-complete-information-release-self-guide.html





buckethead99 dynotronics is sooo sketchy. alot of people have had issues with him on m3r, but their posts get deleted. He creeped my ride thread to argue that ov didnt know what he was doing on m3r.
I can help walk you through how the program works in order for you to tune yourself or to get a proper tuner to do it and help explain to him how it works. Know that there are risks associated with tuning, especially when you do it yourself and your trying to figure out how to do it.

If your local, I was thinking about holding a get together to discuss tuning and about mazdaedit for fun in the springtime. the software is a bit difficult to understand at first. Brian at Aph needed some time to figure it out, even then he only scratched the surface with cam timing.

the remote tuning takes quite a bit of time, and its not nearly as accurate as a dyno. Plus, its very hard if not impossible to find the best ignition/cam timing degrees without a dyno. plus constantly datalogging on the streets isnt the safest thing.
bottom line, the software works, and works quite well when understood, but the custom tunes from ov and dynotronics havent really ever been verified with a dyno.

when Brian was testing out mazdaedit, was able to gain 15+whp/15+wtq with just cam timing, i/h/e 2.5l. gotta find the graph again.


http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r735/kiyomi_17/CAM003331_zps13afa108.jpg
Highest pull - previous tune with Powermod Piggyback two years ago APH (25 peak ignition timing degree, and 12.5afr)- no cam timing, and no raised rev limiter.
Green Line - APH tune/rnd with Mazdaedit software ( vvti cam timing, upped by 5 degrees)
Orange - OV tune with Mazdaedit software/datalogging (Ov was figuring out the software during this period).
Blue - Stock dyno pull with current mods

Hopefully you guys do get your meet ups going, the whole point of us providing all details is so more open source options become reality

[S.F.W.]

I haven't been involved in this whole discussion, but I do want to chime in on this "since he is now a paid sponsor (even after being given 2+ year free non sponsor ability to sell)". You were given almost a year of free sponsorship on TM3, you kept saying you were going to be a sponsor, then you weren't because you were with dynotronics, then you weren't with dynotronics and were going to be a sponsor.
In the end, you got free exposure on TM3.

[Orangevirus]

I haven't been involved in this whole discussion, but I do want to chime in on this "since he is now a paid sponsor (even after being given 2+ year free non sponsor ability to sell)". You were given almost a year of free sponsorship on TM3, you kept saying you were going to be a sponsor, then you weren't because you were with dynotronics, then you weren't with dynotronics and were going to be a sponsor.
In the end, you got free exposure on TM3.

This is true, was it nearly a year? I had ultimately planned to become a sponsor, this isn't an excuse, but the truth. during the first few months I definitely wanted to be a sponsor, but simply couldn't afford it (the first couple of months was ecu test work, I wasn't selling much tunes. then the Dynotronics fiasco, Then after I had planned to again, but ultimately stopped using the site because all exposure is on Facebook. My business is not top dollar nor did I make much, during the entire time we sold tunes. I just couldn't afford monthly payments that cost more or equal to what I'd sell in a month. I did make a promise I couldn't keep, because I simply didn't have the money. Which I apologize, if it makes any difference.
-Also I don't believe or think I abused it.

[Kiyomi]

Hey guys. I'm from Ottawa, and I had my 2012 Mazda 3 skyactiv 2.0 tuned by OV Tuning recently, and I was able to obtain impressive results which I posted in the link below. You can also see results from a MZR 2.0:

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-2013-mazda-3-engine-performance/81474-ovtuning-tune-review-thread.html

I'd stay away from Dynotronics... While getting tuned 2 months ago, I had a peak at several logs from a guy who was being tuned by Dynotronics and has the same car. When looking at their VDyno and time to complete 3rd gear runs, I noticed that their latest tune updates (after 6-8 revisions; over 6 months) produced runs that actually caused a power loss compared to stock run. Then after checking their logged VVT intake and Exhaust settings, I noticed they were way off from the settings that produce power. They were just generic settings that couldn't have been tested prior; the tuner had no clue what works. The trick to getting gains in the skyactiv is the VVT settings... Instead, they poured tons of ignition timing over the bad VVT settings and raised the rev limiter which has never been proven safe with the skyactiv 2.0. I also noticed that aside from the odd person saying they "felt" an improvement, I saw no posts about positive results with actual numbers in any forums. Instead, if you look deeper, you will find bad feedback.

Although OV Tuning is straying away from Mazda tuning, they posted a self-tuning guide at the link below. This will soon be updated with more information for other models:

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2012-2013-mazda-3-skyactiv-engine-performance/83474-mazdaedit-tuning-complete-information-release-self-guide.html

In addition, they will post the actual settings (VVT, ignition timing, etc) that produce power for each Mazda model (MS3, MZR, skyactiv...) for free in a drop box account in the near future. Stay tuned!

Skyactiver , just one thing. those vdyno results mean nothing. real world dyno numbers dont lie. especially, when i see that a 2.0l n/a is making supposedly 180+whp.... no freaking way. lol. ive always said that the vdyno really only shows crank hp at best.

[SomeGuy]

finally, for the MS3 side, there is so much cobb doesn't have that mazdaEdit does. I tuned a local MS3 on mazdaEdit, GTX3071 @26psi put down 425WHP.


Orangevirus

Please quantify what mazdaEdit has that Cobb's ATR doesn't have.

[Skyactiver]

Skyactiver , just one thing. those vdyno results mean nothing. real world dyno numbers dont lie. especially, when i see that a 2.0l n/a is making supposedly 180+whp.... no freaking way. lol. ive always said that the vdyno really only shows crank hp at best.

Yes, 180+ hp at the crank is possible for this car! I never said 180 whp; I'm getting around 160 whp with my VDyno. I've confirmed the Vdyno results with time to complete 3rd gear, and there is about a 15% improvement on 91 octane, which is the improvement compared to baseline which also had an intake, exhaust and light weight wheels. Slightly more is possible with 94 octane. If you get the VVT settings right with the skyactiv, you get huge gains past 4000 rpm, resulting in over 20 whp top end just from the tune.

[Orangevirus]

Orangevirus

Please quantify what mazdaEdit has that Cobb's ATR doesn't have.

Sure, give me a few mins to screenshot some useful maps and I'll explain

[SomeGuy]

Sure, give me a few mins to screenshot some useful maps and I'll explain

Thanks. I know ATR has limitations, and VersaTune even has a few things ATR doesn't. Curious what there is.

[Kiyomi]

Yes, 180+ hp at the crank is possible for this car! I never said 180 whp; I'm getting around 160 whp with my VDyno. I've confirmed the Vdyno results with time to complete 3rd gear, and there is about a 15% improvement on 91 octane, which is the improvement compared to baseline which also had an intake, exhaust and light weight wheels. Slightly more is possible with 94 octane. If you get the VVT settings right with the skyactiv, you get huge gains past 4000 rpm, resulting in over 20 whp top end just from the tune.

that makes more sense. but still, im interested in real dyno #s. i dont like the vdyno. go be the first skyactive member to dyno please. :D need more graphs then just mine from like 2 yrs ago...

[Skyactiver]

Yeah, I've been thinking of getting one after I've tried out a few more tweaks using 94 octane. BTW, the user Stafford from that forum has obtained the same results, so its replicable. I agree that a real dyno would be good, but even real dyno's can vary based on calibration. Time to complete gear runs are quite accurate, and should be used as a reference more often. MazdaEdit captures time/speed very accurately (I have replicated the results in other runs on the same road).

[Kiyomi]

Yeah, I've been thinking of getting one after I've tried out a few more tweaks using 94 octane. BTW, the user Stafford from that forum has obtained the same results, so its replicable. I agree that a real dyno would be good, but even real dyno's can vary based on calibration. Time to complete gear runs are quite accurate, and should be used as a reference more often. MazdaEdit captures time/speed very accurately (I have replicated the results in other runs on the same road).

dynapacks are one of the most accurate ways to gauge power, whether its off by one or two percent. there are many threads on other forums saying which dynos show more power percentage wise.

plus, the whole going past 7300 rpm on the 2.5l is pointless without pnp, or internal upgrades. it starts losing power severely after 6600rpm. just wearing out the engine faster with no benefits.

[SomeGuy]

dynapacks are one of the most accurate ways to gauge power, whether its off by one or two percent. there are many threads on other forums saying which dynos show more power percentage wise.

It's about getting before/after runs on the same dyno with the same conditions (temp, humidity, etc) to show gains. Comparing two different dynos on two different days doesn't prove a thing.

[Kiyomi]

It's about getting before/after runs on the same dyno with the same conditions (temp, humidity, etc) to show gains. Comparing two different dynos on two different days doesn't prove a thing.

should be fairly easy considering you can just flash over the new map, unless the fuel trimming learn team takes too long, unsure of that.

[SomeGuy]

should be fairly easy considering you can just flash over the new map, unless the fuel trimming learn team takes too long, unsure of that.

If it's anything like the MS3, LT fuel trims aren't used at WOT, so shouldn't make a difference.

[Kiyomi]

If it's anything like the MS3, LT fuel trims aren't used at WOT, so shouldn't make a difference.

whenever i flashed a map, and i went wot, my afrs were not where they were supposed to be until like 20mins of driving.

[Orangevirus]

Orangevirus

Please quantify what mazdaEdit has that Cobb's ATR doesn't have.


Orangevirus

Please quantify what mazdaEdit has that Cobb's ATR doesn't have.

Sure, give me a few mins to screenshot some useful maps and I'll explain. SomeGuy


EDIT: some of these maps may be in Cobb, I can't remember all to be honest. this is just a few, there are a lot more

First: Base fueling comps, IMO, a better way for E85 fueling than skewing the injector scales.
http://s29.postimg.org/q7yubil77/434.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/q7yubil77/)

SWAS related fueling / torque / timing. IMO better then simply unplugging it, would be tuning these tables
http://s10.postimg.org/vme7e53v9/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vme7e53v9/)

Shift related ignition and retard. These maps help with shift related knock
http://s12.postimg.org/404d4ch89/234.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/404d4ch89/)

Fan control
http://s13.postimg.org/46gtpv1xv/321.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/46gtpv1xv/)

Long term fuel trim vs Temp compensation
http://s29.postimg.org/8grtasv6b/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8grtasv6b/)

Decel fuel load control
http://s9.postimg.org/ernvn2rcr/123.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ernvn2rcr/)

MAF fuel correction and comp tables
http://s17.postimg.org/p2sdmnbrf/444.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/p2sdmnbrf/)
http://s4.postimg.org/kl8vrh1ix/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/kl8vrh1ix/)

Idle fuel tables
http://s4.postimg.org/nx76krta1/1331.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/nx76krta1/)

[SomeGuy]

whenever i flashed a map, and i went wot, my afrs were not where they were supposed to be until like 20mins of driving.

It's entirely possible the MZ3 is different. WOT MAF calibration would probably help that situation.



Also thanks OrangeVirus, a few neat things there, some I believe that ATR has in various capacities but not all.

[Orangevirus]

It's entirely possible the MZ3 is different. WOT MAF calibration would probably help that situation.



Also thanks OrangeVirus, a few neat things there, some I believe that ATR has in various capacities but not all.


ATR is great for what it is, especially if you really only need to tune the "essentials" ( MAF cal + WOT fuel / timing ) but being able to adjust all the little stuff makes it run more like OEM.

for instance my friends car, on ATR always had an issue with shaky idle ( with JBR trilogy mounts ), but with the idle tables (fuel, ignition, comps) in MazdaEdit I was able t get his idle silky smooth, with the same JBR mounts. That may not be enough to qualify MazdaEdit as a tuning option for Speeds, but Personally I like it.

Secondly, I have noticed that with ATR you pick up knock a LOT more.
with MazdaEdit we had Zero random knock spikes, or cruise knock.

[S.F.W.]

Fobio thoughts ?

[Fobio]

Fobio thoughts ?

Not much really. Unlike the FRS/BRZ/GT86, the platform and more importantly, its owners' base, can't bear multiple tuning solutions financially...which I believe is the cause for all the in-fighting. Looking at some numbers, not many if any, would pony up more than a couple of hundred dollars to DIY and not many would pay someone for questionable/inconsistent gains. To look at it another way, if there's more meat on the bones then the market will flourish on its own.

From what I've seen, many guys who've tuned the MS3 have now moved on to bigger and more supported platforms than pound away at the Mazda engine. Don't get me wrong; what anyone and everyone have done for the platform is great...but how many on here would pony up at the dyno.

[Orangevirus]

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-2013-mazda-3-engine-performance/85289-my-dynotronics-tuning-experience.html
http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-2013-mazda-3-engine-performance/85313-my-dynotronics-review-beware.html
http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2010-2013-mazda-3-engine-performance/85050-watch-out-dynotronics-selling-others-work.html

[Eternalegacy]

Hi from Vancouver!
Am looking forward to seeing everyone's results from the tuning meets.

Haven't been able to find the free guide/maps.. And such.

To start, I would need tactrix device and mazda edit, correct?

[DLYDRVN]

I was around for this as well. He was tuning by having you send in your complete ECU and then he'd flash and send it back... But guys were going for weeks without hearing from him and no ECU to run the car... Shady and his results were questionable too. A couple of guys said they liked the 'feel' of it but i never saw Dyno charts, and he was super dodgy any time anyone suggested he maybe provide some evidence to people who were thinking about forking over $400 to tune a 100bhp car.


I'd avoid him like the plague.

Speaking from a board centered around 2's, DT has been hit or miss with regards to both turn-around as well as even responding/providing what was paid for.