Directing traffic off M3F

[MajesticBlueNTO]

it\'s bad enough they\'ve made this guy a moderator of a forum where he doesn\'t even have the car to begin with....but WTF is his problem saying to \"stop directing traffic off M3F to TM3\"?

we AREN\'T directing traffic off M3F ...if anything, people on here surf both forums but don\'t post on M3F because of powertrippers like FrostyFire.

Frosty/jared/postwhore, if you\'re reading this, LIGHTEN THE **** UP

link (http://www.mazda3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14568)

EDIT: to be fair, here\'s a link on M3F where people can discuss (http://www.mazda3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14605) :sarc

I will be the first to admit that i do research on M3F but, post here because it is local.

[wtom]

He PM\'ed me and I replied publically;

http://www.mazda3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14605

EDIT: I KNEW He\'d delete the above post... I copied and pasted; http://www.mazda3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14607

EDIT2: Okay he\'s sitting there at his computer waiting for me to post again and again so he can delete every time... forget it, it\'s the same msg as below...


If he deletes that post, here it is in full (now for all you TM3 members who surf M3F AND TM3 regularly, give FrostyFire the BS he is trying to hit the fan with);


You\'ve got to be kidding me, FrostyFire,

I chose to take this publically because that way it might open up your eyes that my references to TorontoMazda3.com is NOT intended to pull members away from Mazda3Forums.com and exclusively into TorontoMazda3.com. If you or any other mod believes my referring to TorontoMazda3.com is harmful to Mazda3Forums.com then I do believe I shall refer you to TorontoMazda3.com\'s memberlist and see if you can find the members there who are also here who choose to surf BOTH sites regularly! Come\'on, gimme a break... filtering members from Mazda3Forums.com to TorontoMazda3.com ... right!



wtom I do not appreciate your cheakiness.

It has been noted among another mods that you have cotinually directed people off this site to the toronto forums.

I was merely asking you to stop. I also do not appreciate your personal attacks. Moderators deserve respect, and I am no way out of line in asking you to refrain from constantly filtering members off this site.

[majic]

daaaamn.. someone\'s got a pickle up their ass..

umm.. we link to other forums.. why not link/refer to us.. as winningblue on M3F said.. \"it\'s for information sharing not profit (business)\"

bah.. i rarely visit M3F - never signed up - b/c of punks like him and the total \'mis\'-organization of forums.. and yeah a shitload of duplicate posts.. gah..

ps.. MajesticBlueN YGPM :) sent b4 i saw this post

[MAZDA Kitten]

Forum drama....! LOL love it...

I mainly just read M3F but post here b/c its local n\' stuff.
I find their canada forum kinda ass :hoho

[MajesticBlueNTO]

ok, i\'ve calmed down...i\'m not bashing M3F at all. it is a wealth of information simply because the user base is greater (it has members all over the world).

the 2 forums can co-exist peacefully with unnecessary drama brought forth by the one apple that spoils the bunch.

check yourself before you wreck yourself

[majic]

Originally posted by MajesticBlueN


EDIT: to be fair, here\'s a link on M3F where people can discuss (http://www.mazda3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14605) :sarc

I will be the first to admit that i do research on M3F but, post here because it is local.

i\'ll reply here b/c i don\'thave M3F acct :)



you are confusing the role of a moderator with GOD.


hahahahahahahaha.. i\'m so glad that our mods aren\'t like that.. although sometimes the try to be :p j/k

and come on.. nobody respects bluntman\'s \"off topic\" pictures :D j/k

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by wtom

If he deletes that post, here it is in full (now for all you TM3 members who surf M3F AND TM3 regularly, give FrostyFire the BS he is trying to hit the fan with);


You\'ve got to be kidding me, FrostyFire,

I chose to take this publically because that way it might open up your eyes that my references to TorontoMazda3.com is NOT intended to pull members away from Mazda3Forums.com and exclusively into TorontoMazda3.com. If you or any other mod believes my referring to TorontoMazda3.com is harmful to Mazda3Forums.com then I do believe I shall refer you to TorontoMazda3.com\'s memberlist and see if you can find the members there who are also here who choose to surf BOTH sites regularly! Come\'on, gimme a break... filtering members from Mazda3Forums.com to TorontoMazda3.com ... right!



wtom I do not appreciate your cheakiness.

It has been noted among another mods that you have cotinually directed people off this site to the toronto forums.

I was merely asking you to stop. I also do not appreciate your personal attacks. Moderators deserve respect, and I am no way out of line in asking you to refrain from constantly filtering members off this site.

as expected, he deleted it...and, drumroll please, here\'s the post right before it was deleted :p


Originally posted by MajesticBlueNTO
moderators, specifically yourself, DO NOT deserve respect if they don\'t EARN it.

LOL!

[majic]

yeah.. i pressed \"F5\" and it asked me to log in.. i was like w00t? then to realize it\'s *poof* gone.. hah.. \"YOU CAN\'T HANDLE THE TRUTH\" - few good men

[///M]

lol this is too funny :hoho

[majic]

look who\'s one of the members here \"frosty fire\" online now..

i guess he\'ll try to explain himself.. how about we delete his posts huh? :p

i can just see his replies pouring in :D

EDIT: looks like i predicted it right.. must be \'majic\' :D heheheh
EDIT2: ok not new.. but new / old - never participate here.. bah

[FrostyFire]

wtom,

this is ALL I asked from you: \"Please avoid directing members of the Mazda3Forums to the Toronto Forums.\"

And how did you reply?

\"And where art thou rules stating my kind intentions to assist in one\'s rather defined and localized search of a replacement automobile part, oh Thumper?

Here? http://www.fmvperformance.com/index.php?MenuItem=8

Nope.

Or Here? http://www.fmvperformance.com/index.php?MenuItem=13

Nope.

Sorry, please post whore some more... which goes against your signature advising members to SEARCH before POSTING... what good will that do in preventing redundant posts if all you do is post rubbish after rubbish of whorage?\"

No offense but I didn\'t make any personal attacks on you or anything. So I decide to PM you and then you reply to my PM publically? Uhm okay.

[FrostyFire]

Originally posted by majic


look who\'s one of the members here \"frosty fire\" online now..

i guess he\'ll try to explain himself.. how about we delete his posts huh? :p

i can just see his replies pouring in :D

I\'m not a new member.

[wtom]

Because it appears whoever this OTHER moderator is, plus yourself, believe I am pulling people AWAY from M3F and into TM3... which is IMPOSSIBLE. I do not have a gun pointed at their head. I am merely giving people the open invitation to access information and community which is more localized rather than having to sift through tens and hundreds of new posts every single day!

majic, keep your tone down, please. We don\'t want to cause a forum battle here. M3F and TM3 work together. I have no intentions to put down M3F at all however the assumption that I am taking away members from M3F is greatly exaggerated by yourself and this OTHER M3F mod.

[FrostyFire]

I took a brief look at your recent posts:

http://mazda3forums.com/search.php?search_author=wtom&showresults=topics


And notice that you were constantly linking to another thread on this forum. Not to mention your huge signature that shows you represent another forum.

I didn\'t do anything in a mean way, I had a simple request, and you decided to give a nasty reply.

I deleted your threads because I don\'t believe need for your childishness to be posted publicly. If you have a problem, PM me and we can work it out.

[majic]

Originally posted by wtom

majic, keep your tone down, please. We don\'t want to cause a forum battle here. M3F and TM3 work together. I have no intentions to put down M3F at all however the assumption that I am taking away members from M3F is greatly exaggerated by yourself and this OTHER M3F mod.

exaggerated by me? :( i stand for freedom of info and access as well as info sharing.. so umm... all i am doing is voicing my opinion..

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by majic



Originally posted by wtom

majic, keep your tone down, please. We don\'t want to cause a forum battle here. M3F and TM3 work together. I have no intentions to put down M3F at all however the assumption that I am taking away members from M3F is greatly exaggerated by yourself and this OTHER M3F mod.

exaggerated by me? :( i stand for freedom of info and access as well as info sharing.. so umm... all i am doing is voicing my opinion..

in his last sentence, he\'s talking to frostyfire and not you majic

[FrostyFire]

wtom if it\'s not your direct intentions to direct people off the site then I apologise, but trust me that\'s what it looks like.

All you had to do was reply in a decent manner, or just send me a PM. There was no need to blow up like that, including starting those other threads.

[majic]

oh sorry.. i thought the whole block/paragraph was intended for me.. didn\'t make much sense tho.. but i\'d rather not speculate.. and i think i\'ll butt out for now.. :sarc

EDIT: Frosty.. u\'ve been here a while.. u shoudl see numerous times TM3 members linking to your forum and vice versa.. bluntman.. redraptor.. wtom.. majesticbluen.. they all contribute to both sites and jsut try to propagate as much information as possible!

[wtom]

That\'s because everything I wanted to say was already posted in full over here and I did not want to copy and paste everything over to M3F when I can save the time and length of actual reply by adding a link instead. That is an open link to any one with or without an account on TM3 to view the page. For those inquiries which I responded with an invite to TM3, it is purely that; an invite!

If linking to a specific domain is not welcomed on M3F then I apologize for all of the images that are directly linked for which someone must surely be requesting the people who post those URL\'s to stop directing members to those sites.

I did not have a problem in the sense that I posted publically to your PM because I wanted you to see that not many others will agree with your original argument;

\"Please avoid directing members of the Mazda3Forums to the Toronto Forums.\"

Quoted from within http://www.mazda3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14568

[Xenon]

As a spokesperson and moderator for the Toronto Mazda3 Car Club Forums I would like to make an official reply. Please feel free to post this in Mazda3 Forums if you see fit:

----
With All Due Respect to All Mazda3 Forums Administrators and Moderators:

We at Toronto Mazda3 are in no way attempting to compete with you. Our members see your forums as an abundant source of information regarding our cars. I will admit that I refer to your forums first when looking for solutions to problems.

Mazda3 Forums has over 5100 Members, versus our relatively small 355. We are simply trying to offer help and support to Mazda3 owners in Toronto, as our forum is more focused on that geographical location than yours. Members who are outside of the Greater Toronto Area and especially out of the Province of Ontario would naturally find your forum more resourceful than ours, as ours is very specific to our location.

As with Mazda3 Forums, the Toronto Mazda3 Forums are here as a resource to help find solutions to the problems. When we don’t have a solution for our members, we refer them to Mazda3 Forums. I have personally done this a few times.

Toronto Mazda3 will never be as large as Mazda3 Forums because it is not in the best interest for people out of our geographical location to be a member of Toronto Mazda3, although they are more than welcome. Because you have a size advantage, you will always have more resources than we do, and therefore will always be a greater resource.

We redirect people from Mazda3 Forums only when they are unable to find a solution during their visit. Like Mazda3 Forums, we have members who specialize in the cars; parts managers, sales persons and we have our list of sponsors and affiliates who also post solutions on our forums. Because of your size, many of the posts go unnoticed. We are merely offering our resources to your members, hoping that with our smaller size, the solution will be read by one of our “specialist” members.

Toronto Mazda3 is on your side. We both share common interests and enthusiasm about the Mazda3. We are all connected by our love for our cars. Through this connection we should work together so that all owner experience, whether they are a member of Toronto Mazda3, Mazda3 Forums, or both, can be enjoyed to the fullest extent possible.

Lawrence A. Wong (a.k.a. Xenon)
Events & Promotions Co-Ordinator/Global Moderator
Toronto Mazda3 Car Club

[FrostyFire]

Thank you for your clarification. This could have easily been done over PM.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by FrostyFire


Thank you for your clarification. This could have easily been done over PM.

Then why did you post this: \"Please avoid directing members of the Mazda3Forums to the Toronto Forums.\" on M3F when THAT could\'ve easily been done via PM :sarc

[FrostyFire]

Why do you continue to add fuel to the fire?

It\'s over and done with. The comment was directed at wtom not you.

[wtom]

Some issues are better resolved in the open. Privately, things may get blown even further out of proportion. In the open, I, personally, control my thoughts more clearly since I have to be considerate of all the people that may read what I write. I am more clear in what I want to get across and if need be, someone else can point out something I may not be clear about, or a possible discrepancy in understanding one or the other (in this case, the issue between yourself and myself).

[FrostyFire]

Well that\'s fine. It\'s a bit of a difficult way of clarifying things but I think we\'re all good.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by FrostyFire


Why do you continue to add fuel to the fire?

It\'s over and done with. The comment was directed at wtom not you.

because your arguments make no sense.

you tell wtom to discuss it over PM when you\'re the one who brought it out in the public in the first place.

take a page out of xenon\'s moderator book and learn how to be more diplomatic.

[FrostyFire]

I was refering to the comments being said out in public were not called for. If wtom wanted to bitch about what I said, he could have PM\'d me.

Take a page out of wherever, and learn to keep quiet when you\'re not being spoken too.

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by MajesticBlueN
take a page out of xenon\'s moderator book and learn how to be more diplomatic.

I personally think \"Pigs Will Fly\" before Mr Pancake will be diplomatic about anything.
He is by far the biggest post whore and spammer on M3F and its very very sad that he is a moderator on a very public and worldwide forum like M3F.

I\'ve never met a moderator that locks posts and deletes post just because you don\'t agree with him. Not to worry tho, each time I clash heads with him I\'ve reported him to the administrator there so eventually Mr. Pancake will be no more.

For those who don\'t know who FrostyFire(Mr. Pancake) is, he is the biggest post whore who somehow became a moderator. He is easily the worst mod I\'ve met ever on any type of hobby forum. A simple search on M3F for his posts will reveal that.

This guy will diss out other people\'s mods but he himself doesn\'t even own a Mazda3 and is clueless most of the time about the car specifics but just likes to post to give his \"2 cents\" worth of spam.

Mr. Pancake. You really are something when you call wtom \"childish\". Thats like the kettle calling the teapot black, no? I almost died laughing when I heard you say that about wtom. There is a reason why most members don\'t like you Mr. Pancake and NO, its not because you don\'t own the car. Its because you\'ve managed somehow to piss everyone off.

If I give you a dollar on your site (http://www.givejaredadollar.com/) via Paypal will you STFU and go away? If so I will Paypal you right now with \"Non Credit Card\" funds.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by FrostyFire


I was refering to the comments being said out in public were not called for. If wtom wanted to bitch about what I said, he could have PM\'d me.

Take a page out of wherever, and learn to keep quiet when you\'re not being spoken too.

this is an open discussion forum. i will post whenever i want to.

go back to prostituting yourself, oh wait, you\'re lower than prostitutes.

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by FrostyFire
I was refering to the comments being said out in public were not called for. If wtom wanted to bitch about what I said, he could have PM\'d me.

Take a page out of wherever, and learn to keep quiet when you\'re not being spoken too.

stfu up loser. You\'re not a \"post whoring moderator\" here so before you start shooting off your uneducated mouth, please know who the **** you are talking to. Incase you haven\'t realized, MajesticBlueN is one of the major contributors on TM3. A simple \"Search\", something you SHOULD do on TM3 will reveal that he has posts about how to complete an oil change, ETB grounding mod and an installation of the Xtec HID kit. All DIY guides contributed by him for the members here at TM3.

Oh by the way, have you contributed on M3F? Have you written any guides on anything useful? The only posts I see from you on M3F are spam posts.

So know your \"role\" and don\'t go disrespecting the members like MajesticBlueN and wtom here, who actually have something \"useful\" to contribute instead of just spam.

Mr. Pancake, all I can say is don\'t start something here you can\'t finish.

[FrostyFire]

I notice everyone\'s maturity level is really coming out. Well done. Oh and RedRaptor I love how you sugar coat everything to appear you are always correct. I have the PM\'s and threads to prove what an idiot you are.

[RedRaptor]

Originally posted by FrostyFire
I notice everyone\'s maturity level is really coming out. Well done. Oh and RedRaptor I love how you sugar coat everything to appear you are always correct. I have the PM\'s and threads to prove what an idiot you are.

Its funny how you act all \"mature\" and higher than us all because you\'re some mod at another forum. You are welcomed to post everything SINGLE PM I have ever sent you (none of which you replied to of course because you\'re so \"mature\") on TM3.

I don\'t hide the fact that I dislike a post whoring, uneducated mofo like you who likes to take powertrips on M3F as a moderator to compensate for other inadequacies in your life.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Originally posted by FrostyFire


I notice everyone\'s maturity level is really coming out. Well done. Oh and RedRaptor I love how you sugar coat everything to appear you are always correct. I have the PM\'s and threads to prove what an idiot you are.

there\'s a saying \"never argue with an idiot, they\'ll bring you down to their level...\" shit, my maturity level has been brought down to frosty\'s level...nooooo

[majic]

Originally posted by FrostyFire
I notice everyone\'s maturity level is really coming out. Well done. Oh and RedRaptor I love how you sugar coat everything to appear you are always correct. I have the PM\'s and threads to prove what an idiot you are.


ok.. i\'m back in..

dude.. honestly.. ppl i mentioned in my post earlier (redrap, majestic, bluntman. wtom, flip) atcually have substance in their posts.. they are well respected within our community. unfortunately this cannot be said about you (within even M3F)

RR isn\'t sugar coating anything.. unfortunately like most of us on TM3 he\'s a straight up guy and says as it is.. i would believe him waaaay before you conceive any of the garbage that spews out of your mouth..

so please stop wasting the poor electrons and stop trolling here. it looks like u just doubled your post count today... hmm what input have you provided to this site? NONE.. but i wonder how much info you have \'stolen\' from here..

you\'re the weakest link.. GOOD BYE!!

[FrostyFire]

Yes, your PM\'s to me weren\'t replied to because I don\'t reply to immature comments such as:


Hey loser,

I thought I owned you already in your give me a $1 thread. Don\'t start something you can\'t finish fool, just like last time where you had to close the thread down.

hahaha.




Had to lock another thread? Poor baby. Like I said, don\'t start something you can\'t finish.

You should spend more energy trying to buy the car instead of trolling around and finding posts by me. You are by far the worst moderator i\'ve ever encountered on any forum Probably the POOREST mod I know too.

Gee, you seem to stand firm on your personal attacks there RedRaptor. Very mature.

[RedRaptor]

Pancake,

I have no problem with you letting the world know that I hate your ****en guts and you are a pest. ;)

In this entire thread you haven\'t posted anything useful. But then again, what else is new?

So I\'m going to offer you once more, a $1 with \"Non CC\" Paypal funds to your www.giveloseradollar.com and you go save up for your Mazda3 INSTEAD of insulting other people who have done mods to their cars?

Don\'t be all bitter man. I know at the end of the day we get to drive our Mazda3s around town, buy HIDs for them, winter tires and summer rims, while you stay on your computer, post whoring, posting RedRaptor\'s PMs and being an ******* in general.

[Xenon]

AS I enjoy a lively debate, this thread has become one of insults rather than one of mature discussion.

Please debate the subject without verbally harassing each other or else this thead will be locked. A reminder that the topic is about the accusation of TM3 \"stealing\" M3F members, not one of the maturity levels of the participants.

This is your first and final warning. Clean it up or this discussion will be terminated.

[Newlook]

Ok... wtom posts TM3 links on M3F is not \"stealing\" M3F members. It\'s just an exchange of information and thoughts. Unless you want us to copy and paste all the messages + pictures and repost on M3F.... what\'s the point of that except wasting internet resources?

We have M3F links posted here as well, I don\'t see what\'s the big deal?

EDIT:
Please also read related discussion here (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=1052)

[///M]

Originally posted by autoexe
lol this is too funny :hoho

I take that back. This discussion has turned ugly.

Relax everyone...this is turning into a flame war and it isn\'t getting anywhere.

If FrostyFire wishes to believe that we are \"diverting traffic off M3F\", then so be it. It\'s just his opinion. I\'m sure we (and other members of M3F) know better.

I\'d be interested in seeing what Bluntman has to say about this situation. After all, he\'s a mod on both sides.

[majic]

Originally posted by autoexe

I\'d be interested in seeing what Bluntman has to say about this situation. After all, he\'s a mod on both sides.

he hasn\'t gotten in to work yet.. hence no replies :D :p hehehe

[bluntman]

Personally, I think Frosty has a valid point. Check this thread (http://www.mazda3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14568&highlight=).

Having a link in your signature is all within forum rules, even if it is pointing to another forum, heck look at my signature in those forums, it\'s not as subtle as wtom\'s signature, but they\'ve allowed it and I haven\'t been PM\'ed about it ever. When I read wtom\'s reply in the above thread I cringed, but I didn\'t want to interject, I think it\'s the mod\'s reponsibility of that particular board to make a member aware of any transgressions of the forum rules. Also, conversations that started out as a PM must remain in a PM unless there is consent among both parties to make the conversation public.

I don\'t fault wtom for his actions. He, like a lot of us, are proud members of this little thing we have going on and sometimes we can get a little zealous, but that\'s just human nature. Let\'s not escalate this into a war of the forums...because God knows I take content from there and post it here for the benefit of the TM3 members who don\'t frequent those forums.

[kyfe]

As a member of both boards, I feel it\'s important to utilize both forums. I am a true user as i have no affiliation with either group.
there are reasons I use both sites
M3F I lurk and don\'t really care to post, it\'s a global message board so I can get a more diverse answer to questions i have. I have joined so I have contributed ( at least from a marketing & advertising standpoint).

TM3F is local ( my hometown) I can chat with people that have like interests and deal with more specific issues. I post here becasue it feels more like a community to me.

prime example I researched my tires on M3F got all my info and noticed what people were using.

Then,

I used TM3F to find a local dealer and purchase my tires.

Sorry but there were no attractive offers on M3F for purchasing my tires. it would cost me almost $100 just to have them shipped + duty and exchange.

This is the norm with message boards, I really don\'t think M3F has to worry about losing traffic to this board as the only ones that would have an interest are people from Toronto and the surrounding area and the odd canadian that hates Americans.

I doubt you\'ll see many people from VT or MA here so the misconception of stealing traffic is a little over the top don\'t you think?

I highly doubt that Toronto members make up more than a small % of the M3F and I\'m sure you\'ll notice alot of them much like myself are dual citizens.:)

Now I hope some people will stop and think before they assume they are be all and end all.

Kyfe


***NOTE this post has been edited for maturity.:D

[civiclad]

I would have to agree with Bluntman. I would suggest you people let this topic rest, as it is not worth the aggravation. If the Moderator from M3F does not appreciate the fact you are advertising your club on their forum, just desist.

[super_vixen]

from what I understand, it\'s not simply a matter of advertising, but wtom has been singled out for trying to help locals to find information, which I do think is outrageously unfair. I found this place through M3F from someone posting the link...otherwise I may not have known it existed.

Personally, I can\'t stand the crap that goes on at M3F....but if I want a question answered about something specific, I will go there to read. The point being, message boards and forums are outlets for information sharing, and help...to say that you can\'t post a link to another forum is ridiculous. Warren wasn\'t coming out and saying \"Hey, our Mazda forum is way better, come post there!\"...he was forwarding someone who might get more use out of local info which M3F is lacking for us Ontarians. If Warren had been spamming to everyone in a way as I mentioned above, I could understand something being said, but otherwise \"Frosty\" was asking for this, because I can\'t say that I wouldn\'t have also raised a stink (not necessarily in the same manner, but I wouldn\'t have let it go that easy)

Also, on another note, Mods don\'t deserve any more respect than the average net user..and they rarely get it. Especially when they\'re power tripping as I\'ve seen Frosty do on both boards. I\'ve modded many boards over the years, and if you expect respect, its the last thing you\'re going to see. You\'re an unpaid nerd who sits on their ass reading all day and using your mouse to clicky clicky, delete, merge, lock, etc. I\'m a self proclaimed nerd, and even I don\'t respect myself for modding. Get over yourself, please.

[FrostyFire]

Oringally posted by Mz6ZoomZoom, Mz3F Admin

wtom, a more appropriate reply to the question would be \"have you tried posting here:
http://mazda3forums.com/viewforum.php?f=79\"

It\'s one thing if it has been hard or impossible to find some information after having exhausted the resources of this site and if you have a SPECIFIC thread to link to for information. It\'s another to refer people to a forum in general.


Be that as it may, what is especially inappropriate is the disrespect shown to a moderator of this site. If there is an issue with a moderation decision or comment you may take it up with myself personally, but getting into public fights (especially inside of a thread looking for information) is simply not appropriate.

Regards,

Daniel

[RedRaptor]

Pancake,

Why are you back? And how come you had bring a note from your \"daddy\" administrator here to TM3. Why don\'t you stand up for yourself and answer the bell for once?

Mz6zoomzoom isn\'t the administrator here. Xenon is. And in case you haven\'t noticed he has the RESPECT of the TM3 members here. Hence when he posted here, I complied and stop posting. Respect is something you don\'t have on M3F or on TM3.

You should really thank Xenon for saving your butt in this thread because you were about to get owned again.

[bluntman]

Just a reminder...


Originally posted by Xenon


AS I enjoy a lively debate, this thread has become one of insults rather than one of mature discussion.

Please debate the subject without verbally harassing each other or else this thead will be locked. A reminder that the topic is about the accusation of TM3 \"stealing\" M3F members, not one of the maturity levels of the participants.

This is your first and final warning. Clean it up or this discussion will be terminated.

[majic]

Originally posted by FrostyFire



Oringally posted by Mz6ZoomZoom, Mz3F Admin

wtom, a more appropriate reply to the question would be \"have you tried posting here:
http://mazda3forums.com/viewforum.php?f=79\"

It\'s one thing if it has been hard or impossible to find some information after having exhausted the resources of this site and if you have a SPECIFIC thread to link to for information. It\'s another to refer people to a forum in general.


Be that as it may, what is especially inappropriate is the disrespect shown to a moderator of this site. If there is an issue with a moderation decision or comment you may take it up with myself personally, but getting into public fights (especially inside of a thread looking for information) is simply not appropriate.

Regards,

Daniel



what are you trying to prove by \'tattletaling\'??? that you\'re immature? we already knew this a while back.. remeber good old HS english class? point proof analysis.. the above quote contains neither of the 3..

most of us have expressed ourselves and we all get the point.. we were close to putting out the fire (lol.. PUN INTENDED) and now you have resurfaced yet again.. what is your point?

the ontario portion of M3F is VERY small.. just check yourself.. in the past month there have been less than 10 ACTIVE threads.. come on.. the \'traffic\' that the TM3 members generate there is minute so if you lose 1% bah.. deal with it.. life ain\'t peachy..

and super_vix.. u\'r right.. mods volunteer and keep an eye on things.. they are just as important as the members who post the messages.. and everyone deserves equal respect (most of the time - you get what you give)

[Xenon]

Originally posted by RedRaptor


Pancake,

Why are you back? And how come you had bring a note from your \"daddy\" administrator here to TM3. Why don\'t you stand up for yourself and answer the bell for once?

Mz6zoomzoom isn\'t the administrator here. Xenon is. And in case you haven\'t noticed he has the RESPECT of the TM3 members here. Hence when he posted here, I complied and stop posting. Respect is something you don\'t have on M3F or on TM3.

You should really thank Xenon for saving your butt in this thread because you were about to get owned again.


For the Record:

1)Although I do organize a large portion of our car club\'s activities, I am not an administrator on the forum, just a moderator.

2) it is my PERSONAL OPINION that Toronto Mazda3 and Mazda3 Forums have different audiences. TM3 caters to Torontonians and those in the surrounding area, whereas M3F caters to an international audience. But as it was stated before, M3F and TM3 will inevitably share members, as Toronto is a part of the international community.

[dredd2099]

this thread rox!
train 48 on the net...

[bluntman]

Originally posted by dredd2099


this thread rox!
train 48 on the net...

Can\'t we all just get along? :)

[Dr Butcher]

Wow, look what you miss when you step away for a day....

Thanks for the read guys, I haven\'t seen so much drama since the Kirk vs. Picard battles of the late 80\'s.... :D

Hold me?

[Saphress]

wow.... hmmm...

I\'m probably going to say a lot of things that everyone else has said. Majority of the guys know a lot of things, have helped me with a TON of answers to my concerns with my car..... reading how to do things properly without screwing up... whether it was on this forum or a link that headed over to M3F. The way I am to see it is that either way, both places are getting viewers to see eachothers sites, exchange information... and what is so bad about that??? This is the internet. The SOURCE of today\'s world. If you wanted us not to share links/ info/ and what not... M3F should be making it a PAID site.

All the people that contribute to TM3 contribute still to M3F because everyone is linking things to M3F. As for M3F being offended by the advertising and outlinking to TM3, I believe that is shallow. Afterall, we are all Mazda\'s :P. M3F is advertised all over, and TM3 is more of a concentrated forum for people of Toronto and closer areas, not to say that other people from anywhere are not Welcome. So why all the fuss? M3F is a tree trunk and TM3 is a branch. What gets me is that we should be associates!!! and not being lashed for advertising/outlinking to other forums of a common interest.

My insight on this is that M3F is giving themselves a bad name. It completely defeats the purpose of HAVING a website/forum.... Yes everyone wants to be loved... to be seen, to be read.... BUT being on the internet is a SHARED thing, unless you want to make it private and have paying users only, but what would be the point? Technically, a lot of users also help M3F by out linking because they are posting!!!


Anyway.... I am thankful for all the help from the guys HERE at TM3 because of their love, and THEIR love to share information .... and most of all; THE RESPECT that we have in this forum.

[bluntman]

Originally posted by Saphress


M3F is a tree trunk and TM3 is a branch. What gets me is that we should be associates!!! and not being lashed for advertising/outlinking to other forums of a common interest.



Good analogy!!! Consider TM3 as a more intimate, more active version of the M3F Ontario section.

[majic]

Originally posted by Saphress

Afterall, we are all Mazda\'s :P.


dredd2099 isn\'t!!!! :D

and a nice analogy.. how about we lock this thread? :p no more fighting needed and everyone can just rehash this stuff..

[dioxviad]

WOW!!! you got OWNED in here