Fuel Economy

[Booter22]

at the end of the day we are really not paying more then our parents did ages ago even though it seems that way, i was thinking about this today. back years ago, gas was cheaper.. but the fuel economy was no where as good. so they would visit the pumps more. where as now the gas is more expensive and we visit less. just costs more but less visits vs costs more but more visits. not an exact science but just some food for the mind.

[Primerode12]

I was able to get 10.24l/100km on my 2010 mazda5 gt. with 2 kids usually in car seats and my wife. About 70-30 highway to city ratio. Of course, my driving was uneventful. I imagined I was 'driving miss Daisy' the whole time.

[Kessly Snipes]

at the end of the day we are really not paying more then our parents did ages ago even though it seems that way, i was thinking about this today. back years ago, gas was cheaper.. but the fuel economy was no where as good. so they would visit the pumps more. where as now the gas is more expensive and we visit less. just costs more but less visits vs costs more but more visits. not an exact science but just some food for the mind.

Gas is $1.40/L, My first tank was $0.54/L, nearly 3 (2.5925 to be exact) times as bad. I don't get 3 times the mileage I got back then.

[Booter22]

Gas is $1.40/L, My first tank was $0.54/L, nearly 3 (2.5925 to be exact) times as bad. I don't get 3 times the mileage I got back then.

lol i didnt say it was an exact science :P make you wonder if the gov will step in and do something about it like they had before

[Kessly Snipes]

lol i didnt say it was an exact science :P make you wonder if the gov will step in and do something about it like they had before

I sure hope so!!!

[113GT]

Gas in Montreal hit $1.50 in some areas.

This highest it has ever been was I think $1.56 back in 2008. I really think its going to hit $1.60 by mid summer this year. Sad.

Time to get a bike!

[Grimz]

I got gas yesterday in Barrie for $1.32 and when I got into T.O. it was $1.40 so quite the difference for 75KM distance.

[gabbygenier]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527108_394477843904372_269847863034038_1494710_203 2173989_n.jpg

[Grimz]

Does anyone know why the price of a diesel engine in a car would cost approx $4,000 more then a gas engine? This seems a little excessive and is not justified in my view. Thoughts on this?

[FD22]

Does anyone know why the price of a diesel engine in a car would cost approx $4,000 more then a gas engine? This seems a little excessive and is not justified in my view. Thoughts on this?

You can't just pull a gas engine and put in a diesel one. It's not that easy. There are a bunch of further complications associated with it. To answer your question for cost, one big reason is due to the aftertreatment of exhaust gases. There is a whole system in place to deal with the emissions from a diesel engine, which in turn drives the cost up. There's other things as well, but this is one main reason, and is a reason not many are aware of.

[Grimz]

Sorry I meant when buying a new car and not converting from gas to a diesel engine in an a existing one. I do see your point in additional cost for the exhaust system but not 4G worth. I feel that the main reason for it in Canada at least is due to the lack of available choice and it's just a cash grab if you want the better fuel economy of the diesel over the gas.

[FD22]

Sorry I meant when buying a new car and not converting from gas to a diesel engine in an a existing one. I do see your point in additional cost for the exhaust system but not 4G worth. I feel that the main reason for it in Canada at least is due to the lack of available choice and it's just a cash grab if you want the better fuel economy of the diesel over the gas.

Yea, my explanation about the emissions control still applies for buying new diesel vehicles versus buying new gasoline vehicles. The regulations are much more stringent for diesels, and since it's not as popular as other places (yet), they're not masses of production to lower the cost of these control devices. But you are right as well; there is definitely a limited amount out there to choose from. But you would probably make back that extra initial investment within a couple years I'd say, due to the fuel savings.

[Chester_Lampwick]

Yea, my explanation about the emissions control still applies for buying new diesel vehicles versus buying new gasoline vehicles. The regulations are much more stringent for diesels, and since it's not as popular as other places (yet), they're not masses of production to lower the cost of these control devices. But you are right as well; there is definitely a limited amount out there to choose from. But you would probably make back that extra initial investment within a couple years I'd say, due to the fuel savings.
I call BS on this one. No way are diesel emissions more stringent. They weren't at all controlled until 2008. Sure, there's some controls now, a soot filter of sorts. Gas engines have had ever increasing pollution standards for 40 years now. Way less particulates in a modern gas engine than a modern diesel I'm sure.

The diesel engine shouldn't really cost any more than a gas engine. Of course the appeal of lower fuel costs is appealing to a customer. Since VW has a near monopoly in this niche they can justify the price increase.

[FD22]

I call BS on this one. No way are diesel emissions more stringent. They weren't at all controlled until 2008. Sure, there's some controls now, a soot filter of sorts. Gas engines have had ever increasing pollution standards for 40 years now. Way less particulates in a modern gas engine than a modern diesel I'm sure.

The diesel engine shouldn't really cost any more than a gas engine. Of course the appeal of lower fuel costs is appealing to a customer. Since VW has a near monopoly in this niche they can justify the price increase.

You definitely got this wrong buddy. It's the other way around. Hence my explanation for the higher cost. With no sort of emission control, diesel fuel would emitt way more unwanted gasses and particulate matter out the tailpipe of a car when compared to a gasoline engine. That's one very well known fact, and is one of the main drawbacks to why people didn't buy diesels before. The harmful emissions were too much to handle, and is basically what give diesel a bad reputation in the public's eye. That's why even now when these emissions are being controlled properly (despite the higher price to implement these controls) most people still think of diesel engines as lound, dirty, smelly ones. This isn't the case anymore however, as there are safisticated emission control strategies to deal with the pollutants that diesel fuel emitts when combusted.

Can you agree with me that diesels are quite popular in other places like Europe? Now, people always complain "why can't we just bring those diesels here for sales in North America?" Let me ask you; why do you think this is the case? Well, the big reason is that most of those other countries with roads widely populated by diesel vehicles have less lower emission standards. North America has more stringent standards for diesel fuel emissions (to allow the emissions to be comparable to those out of a gasoline vehicle) so there needs to be added measures to deal with the diesel emissions here in North America. That's why there aren't as many diesels on the road (yet) here in North America, as this initial added premium to a vehicle isn't worth it to most customers, and so companies shy away from having a full range of diesel vehicles to choose from, if any.

Sorry for the lengthy response there, but in short, my reply to your statement "Way less particulates in a modern gas engine than a modern diesel I'm sure" is that you have it completely backwards. My current job involves working with exactly what we're talking about here, so coming from someone in the industry, I can assure you I somewhat know what I'm talking about, and this isn't "BS" as you so referred to it earlier.

[Observer]

at the end of the day we are really not paying more then our parents did ages ago even though it seems that way, i was thinking about this today. back years ago, gas was cheaper.. but the fuel economy was no where as good. so they would visit the pumps more. where as now the gas is more expensive and we visit less. just costs more but less visits vs costs more but more visits. not an exact science but just some food for the mind.

Sorry, going to have to disagree. I believe I am probably older than most contributors here, and I have been driving since late 1972. I have driven small cars only in all that time, with the biggest being a Camry V6 wagon in 1989.

My first car was a 1969 MGB and while my new Mazda does get better overall mileage gasoline was only 39 cents a GALLON when I first started driving. I could fill up the MG for well under $5 and easily get 225 - 250 miles to the entire 10 gallon tank. The other day I filled up (before the price jump) and it cost me $45.06 for 33.752 liters which equates to 8.9 gallons, yet I only got 260 odd kms to that amount, or 161 miles.

So, while overall today's cars are far more efficient, will deliver far better mileage on long runs and are exceedingly more reliable, the cost of gas is NOT comparable. It is vastly more expensive now.

Where you comments may have some validity is if your parents were driving inefficient land yachts in the "olden days". But some of us never did, so your comments are far too broad to be wholly accurate.

Sorry.

[Gloomfrost]

Sorry, going to have to disagree. I believe I am probably older than most contributors here, and I have been driving since late 1972. I have driven small cars only in all that time, with the biggest being a Camry V6 wagon in 1989.

My first car was a 1969 MGB and while my new Mazda does get better overall mileage gasoline was only 39 cents a GALLON when I first started driving. I could fill up the MG for well under $5 and easily get 225 - 250 miles to the entire 10 gallon tank. The other day I filled up (before the price jump) and it cost me $45.06 for 33.752 liters which equates to 8.9 gallons, yet I only got 260 odd kms to that amount, or 161 miles.

So, while overall today's cars are far more efficient, will deliver far better mileage on long runs and are exceedingly more reliable, the cost of gas is NOT comparable. It is vastly more expensive now.

Where you comments may have some validity is if your parents were driving inefficient land yachts in the "olden days". But some of us never did, so your comments are far too broad to be wholly accurate.

Sorry.

That's one long way to say 'Nah I disagree.'

:P

He was just trying to bring some optimism lol! And/or give some insight because technically we could all get motorcycles, then his comment would probably hold!

[nguy3nha]

i got 780km before the low gas light came on today..

filled up to the max and used a scangauge to track fuel economy.

mostly highway driving to niagara falls and back and some more highway driving to other places

[nguy3nha]

kept it under 100 and did not go over 2.3k revs. cruised controlled and on no frills regular unleaded gas.

[nguy3nha]

sorrryy gas like came on around 700

[Gloomfrost]

kept it under 100 and did not go over 2.3k revs. cruised controlled and on no frills regular unleaded gas.

What car do you have?
Also, cruise control is less efficient than your foot. You'd know what I mean if you've ever been on a hill.

[Elusivellama]

I need to find a higher paying job so I won't have to bend over as much at the pumps. ****ing gas companies making record profits and still jacking the price up.

[Fack_Dude]

You can always be a drug dealer. They make madz money. ;)

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Sorry, going to have to disagree. I believe I am probably older than most contributors here, and I have been driving since late 1972. I have driven small cars only in all that time, with the biggest being a Camry V6 wagon in 1989.

My first car was a 1969 MGB and while my new Mazda does get better overall mileage gasoline was only 39 cents a GALLON when I first started driving. I could fill up the MG for well under $5 and easily get 225 - 250 miles to the entire 10 gallon tank. The other day I filled up (before the price jump) and it cost me $45.06 for 33.752 liters which equates to 8.9 gallons, yet I only got 260 odd kms to that amount, or 161 miles.

So, while overall today's cars are far more efficient, will deliver far better mileage on long runs and are exceedingly more reliable, the cost of gas is NOT comparable. It is vastly more expensive now.

Where you comments may have some validity is if your parents were driving inefficient land yachts in the "olden days". But some of us never did, so your comments are far too broad to be wholly accurate.

Sorry.

vastly more expensive is relative.... to compare the historical cost of gasoline with today's values, it needs to be adjusted for inflation (http://inflationdata.com/inflation/inflation_rate/gasoline_inflation.asp)

or put it in a better context that the salary range back in the early 1970s was anywhere from 2,000 to 7,000 PER YEAR.

using a crude math example...

1972: let's assume a $3,000/year salary, $5 per fill up every week (40L @ $0.125/L), that's $260/year in gas and 8.7% of the annual salary

2012: let's assume a $30,000/year salary, $50 per fill up every week (40L @ $1.25/L), that's $2600/year in gas and, oh, the same... 8.7% of the annual salary

where the cost of gas has really gone up is in the amount of trips in traffic and/or kms driven now. we are pumping more because we drive more - people work in Mississauga but live in Markham, as an example, or people commute but are stuck in stop-and-go for hours on end.

[nguy3nha]

What car do you have?
Also, cruise control is less efficient than your foot. You'd know what I mean if you've ever been on a hill.

2011 mazda 3 sport, 2.5L auto

[Observer]

:D
vastly more expensive is relative.... to compare the historical cost of gasoline with today's values, it needs to be adjusted for inflation (http://inflationdata.com/inflation/inflation_rate/gasoline_inflation.asp)

or put it in a better context that the salary range back in the early 1970s was anywhere from 2,000 to 7,000 PER YEAR.

using a crude math example...

1972: let's assume a $3,000/year salary, $5 per fill up every week (40L @ $0.125/L), that's $260/year in gas and 8.7% of the annual salary

2012: let's assume a $30,000/year salary, $50 per fill up every week (40L @ $1.25/L), that's $2600/year in gas and, oh, the same... 8.7% of the annual salary

where the cost of gas has really gone up is in the amount of trips in traffic and/or kms driven now. we are pumping more because we drive more - people work in Mississauga but live in Markham, as an example, or people commute but are stuck in stop-and-go for hours on end.

Agree to a point, the difference being in 1972 I was still in Uni and was not making anywhere near the salary you mention. After graduating in 1978 though I was making 7 times the salary you offered up. And even today, I am making 4 times the salary you offered up for 2012.:D yet it still pains me to spend $50 on half a tank of gas.

Agree things are all relative, but a dollar in 1972 or even 1978 went a lot further than it does now. And even if you factor in inflation and increased salaries a full tank of gas now represents a higher % of disposable income (not gross income). And let us not forget that in the intervening years taxes have increased substantially.

Lastly, I don't know if I agree about people driving more now. Agree people spend a lot more time in traffic, but back in the '70's and '80's it was still very common for people to go on lengthy road trips for their vacation. And even then Markham, Mississauga and Brampton existed and people commuted into downtown Toronto to work because the GO had not been invented yet.

[prime]

What car do you have?
Also, cruise control is less efficient than your foot. You'd know what I mean if you've ever been on a hill.

Care to elaborate? I always understood that maintaining a constant speed regardless of hills meant optimal fuel consumption. Please enlighten.

Edit: Did my own research and you're correct.


Driving over "rolling" terrain, with gentle up and down portions, can usually be done more economically (using less fuel) by a skilled driver viewing the approaching terrain, by maintaining a relatively constant throttle position and allowing the vehicle to accelerate on the downgrades and decelerate on upgrades, while reducing power when cresting a rise and adding a bit before an upgrade is reached. Cruise control will tend to overthrottle on the upgrades and retard on the downgrades, wasting the energy storage capabilities available from the inertia of the vehicle.

-Wikipedia

[113GT]

@Prime

Cruise control is only efficient when driving on a flat road. The cruise control will set a certain speed to maintain that speed, if there is a hill, then it will apply more throtle to keep that speed maintained. If done manually, you can lift off the throttle a bit and deccelerate a little bit and then gently get backup to speed....

this is the art of fuel economy lol

[Gloomfrost]

Whatever you do, don't do any of the 'hypermiling tricks' that you can find lots of info on online. They say the most retarded shit; like turn off your car if you approach a long downhill highway road PFFTTT

[Booter22]

@Prime
Cruise control is only efficient when driving on a flat road. The cruise control will set a certain speed to maintain that speed, if there is a hill, then it will apply more throtle to keep that speed maintained. If done manually, you can lift off the throttle a bit and deccelerate a little bit and then gently get backup to speed....
this is the art of fuel economy lol

half true. cruise control is most efficent when on longer trips as it will maintain a constant speed with less large changes in acceleration and a large ammount of small changes. however the best way to maintain fuel economy is not so much in the art of driving on flat roads and maintaining constant speeds which help but to try and slow and stop less or slow down less as it takes more fuel to accelerate again or to start from a stop so if you can give distance in between to not stop and keep a roll or to accelerate slower you will find you can maintain a better overall fuel economy.

currently my car is at 435 km and just went 1 bar below half. im projecting to get 750 km to this tank or more.. imagine if i had a skyactive :P

vehicle info:
75W90 motul trans fluid,
0W20 Synth Oil,
AEM Cold Air Intake

current average fuel econ - 8.0 L / 100 KM
Last 4 tanks were 7.7L / 100 KM
All time Best 6.9L / 100 KM

http://mefi.us/images/fuelly/sig-metric/72652.png (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/booter22/3)

[genericmoniker]

How in the hell.......

Everytime I pass a gas station I smile and thank myself for choosing my car.

[sudz]

Gas light just turned on - 608km on a 07 2 Litre Manual. My "trip computer" says I AVERAGE about 7.5 over the last 20,000km (since the battery was last pulled) Its a load of crap though As I average about 8.0, this tank was better than normal at 7.7l/100km

[RTEnthusiast]

:( I only got 5.8L/100km city this week. Worst tank in a while.

[Booter22]

i drove the avalanche yesterday.. it was about 12-15L / 100 km, and i filled it up from 1/4 tank and that cost $130.00. made me love my mazda 3 sooo much more.

[distr0]

currently my car is at 435 km and just went 1 bar below half. im projecting to get 750 km to this tank or more.. imagine if i had a skyactive :P


John, let me know what you end up with as I'm in about the same situation as you except in my car it dropped below the half mark bar at around 410km (avg about 60km/bar [not a real measurement but whatever]. I'm gonna rack that up to having the 2.5 instead of your 2.0. Since I only commute like ~40km/day round-trip, I probably won't be filling up for another week or so.

[aris]

currently my car is at 435 km and just went 1 bar below half. im projecting to get 750 km to this tank or more.. imagine if i had a skyactive :P
that's awesome ... I wish my 08 got mileage like that...

[sarujo]

You can't go by those blocks - they're inaccurate and I have found they change a different rates occasionally. My last tank I still scored better overall mileage than you but my blocks were down lower than what you report here. ;-) You should be able to do better mileage thou.

I have the same year, motor and trans as you (except for hatch). I also run full synthetic fluids, except I use Redline in the tranny. I wonder if all those mods you have are weighing your car down! ;-) Probably the weighted shifter! :chuckle

Do you run your tires at 35 PSI as indicated on the door sticker?




currently my car is at 435 km and just went 1 bar below half. im projecting to get 750 km to this tank or more.. imagine if i had a skyactive :P

current average fuel econ - 8.0 L / 100 KM
Last 4 tanks were 7.7L / 100 KM
All time Best 6.9L / 100 KM

http://mefi.us/images/fuelly/sig-metric/72652.png (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/booter22/3)

[Kessly Snipes]

I need to find a higher paying job so I won't have to bend over as much at the pumps. ****ing gas companies making record profits and still jacking the price up.

You'll still bend over, you'll just be able to afford better lube!

[Paton]

I'm not that disappointed with my 2.5L fuel economy. I drive on average about 15km over the speed limit. 20-25 over on the major highways. Wish it did a bit better at those speeds...

Avg, 8.9L/100. Best 7.6L

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rpaton/3

[Impressive]

I'm down to 8.7L/100KM from about the 9.5L/100KM I'd been averaging over the last two years.

I can't believe my fuel economy is actually getting better as my car has close to 200,000km on it and it's still all-original (except the brakes).

[distr0]

John, let me know what you end up with as I'm in about the same situation as you except in my car it dropped below the half mark bar at around 410km (avg about 60km/bar [not a real measurement but whatever]. I'm gonna rack that up to having the 2.5 instead of your 2.0. Since I only commute like ~40km/day round-trip, I probably won't be filling up for another week or so.

UPDATE.. ended up getting 640km out of 48L of gas

[DaveIrwin24]

10.2

[Honva]

Mazda 3 2.0 GS driving in Toronto rush hour traffic most of the time (70% city, 30% highway). Between 8-9L/100km. Not too bad but definitely not as good as some other more efficient cars with 1.8L engines.
Winter close to 9
Summer close to 8
My way to save gas is to look ahead and flow with the traffic and adjust speed to time with traffic lights to minimize stopping. (My brakes still has 8mm after 2 years and 44000km).

[Kessly Snipes]

Mazda 3 2.0 GS driving in Toronto rush hour traffic most of the time (70% city, 30% highway). Between 8-9L/100km. Not too bad but definitely not as good as some other more efficient cars with 1.8L engines.


??

[lobo]

Gotta say that I'm a bit disappointed with my mileage over the past 3 years of owning a Mazda3. I don't get anywhere near what some of the others post on here and I don't know if there's any other way I can change my driving patterns to help lower it. I seem to be averaging around the 10L/100km so somewhere around the 400-430km/tank range.

Are there any recommendations in terms of trying to get more mileage out of the car? I drive on Hwy7 between Weston Rd & Leslie on a daily basis so there's some stop and go traffic with some stretches of 90km/hr driving. 18km each way. I use Shell regular gas too. Considering the car is 3 years old now, would converting to synthetic be of any benefit? Over inflating the tires from what's on the side of the door? Air filter change?

Thanks.

Lobo

[lobo]

Oh here's my fuelly report:

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lobotiger/3

Lobo

[Hoodzy]

Use Fuelly.

[Booter22]

John, let me know what you end up with as I'm in about the same situation as you except in my car it dropped below the half mark bar at around 410km (avg about 60km/bar [not a real measurement but whatever]. I'm gonna rack that up to having the 2.5 instead of your 2.0. Since I only commute like ~40km/day round-trip, I probably won't be filling up for another week or so.

yea.. i only got 575.. mind you i put my exhaust on monday so the gas i had in there.. lol didnt last long as the car managed to find its way in to the higher rpms a bit :chuckle but im starting to drive it almost normal again. still at 7.7L / 100 km

[Hoodzy]

Oh here's my fuelly report:

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lobotiger/3

Lobo

Sorry if I missed it but do you have the city/highway percentage of driving you do? What were you doing when you got 7.9?

[mazdaagain]

I have read that if you keep the RPM as low as possible then you get better mileage. I read 1 article where the guy never had RPM above 2,000 and got around 90 MPG. My 1st 4 tanks on my new wheels were 8.4L/100km, 8.5, 8.2 and the last 8.0. I'm doing an experiment on my current tank ... I'm going to try to never have RPM above 3,000 and see what mileage I get. Max 3,000 RPM means that my top highway speed will be approx 105-110 km/h. I'll update at the end of the tank.

[lobo]

Hi Hoodzy. I would say that my drive is about 30/70 for city/highway driving while commuting to work and back. Highway 7 has some spots where you slow down and sometimes stop so I count some of that plus the side streets around home as city. Can't recall what I was doing when I got 7.9 but I'm sure I had more pure highway driving. I have noticed that when doing true highway driving that my mileage seems to get better...

Lobo

[lobo]

I have read that if you keep the RPM as low as possible then you get better mileage. I read 1 article where the guy never had RPM above 2,000 and got around 90 MPG. My 1st 4 tanks on my new wheels were 8.4L/100km, 8.5, 8.2 and the last 8.0. I'm doing an experiment on my current tank ... I'm going to try to never have RPM above 3,000 and see what mileage I get. Max 3,000 RPM means that my top highway speed will be approx 105-110 km/h. I'll update at the end of the tank.

I'm sort of trying something like that. Trying to keep the rpms below 2500 while driving on Highway 7. Funny thing is is that there are times when even doing 2000 rpms the L/100km value can be over 10L/100km. I've noticed this after accelerating from a stop. So this confuses me even more because do I go by rpms or by the mileage indicator?

Lobo

[mazdaagain]

I'm sort of trying something like that. Trying to keep the rpms below 2500 while driving on Highway 7. Funny thing is is that there are times when even doing 2000 rpms the L/100km value can be over 10L/100km. I've noticed this after accelerating from a stop. So this confuses me even more because do I go by rpms or by the mileage indicator?

Lobo

Stops and starts consume more fuel because fuel has to be injected for the acceleration. Thats why highway driving is more fuel efficient because you keep a constant speed.

[Impressive]

Stops and starts consume more fuel because fuel has to be injected for the acceleration. Thats why highway driving is more fuel efficient because you keep a constant speed.

+1

Try driving around in first and second gear at 2500rpm and see how long your tank lasts as opposed to doing it in 5th.

[AHickman]

Should see about 500-550 km per tank no?

[Impressive]

Should see about 500-550 km per tank no?

Driving what model and doing mostly city or highway driving?

That estimate sounds about right regardless.

[kimchisoup]

I'm not that disappointed with my 2.5L fuel economy. I drive on average about 15km over the speed limit. 20-25 over on the major highways. Wish it did a bit better at those speeds...

Avg, 8.9L/100. Best 7.6L

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rpaton/3

Thats close to mine. Best I avg so far is 32mpg.
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/kimchisoup/3/log

Short trips in winter absolutely killed my fuel economy. I got 14L/100km on one tank in the worst of it (poor traction on snow too, and bumper to bumper).



Gotta say that I'm a bit disappointed with my mileage over the past 3 years of owning a Mazda3. I don't get anywhere near what some of the others post on here and I don't know if there's any other way I can change my driving patterns to help lower it. I seem to be averaging around the 10L/100km so somewhere around the 400-430km/tank range.

Are there any recommendations in terms of trying to get more mileage out of the car? I drive on Hwy7 between Weston Rd & Leslie on a daily basis so there's some stop and go traffic with some stretches of 90km/hr driving. 18km each way. I use Shell regular gas too. Considering the car is 3 years old now, would converting to synthetic be of any benefit? Over inflating the tires from what's on the side of the door? Air filter change?

Thanks.

Lobo
How did you measure 10L/100km. Fill up to full and divide by km done since last fillup? The Trip computer is often wrong by at least 5%.
I haven't done air filter change in ages. Try taking it out and seeing how clogged it it - shaking it out.
30 psi vs 34 psi has very small effect.. maybe 3%. Synthetic vs regular or viscosity also made negligible diff.

By far the biggest factors:
- winter, cold destroys mpg. My mpg skyrocketed from 21 to 29 in March.
- short trips, stop/go, time below 40kph. Should always be using cruise. 100km in city is 9-11L. highway its as low as 6.4L.. and this is 2.3L Auto
- air conditioner/heater on. You can instantly see the economy drop b 1L.




+1
Try driving around in first and second gear at 2500rpm and see how long your tank lasts as opposed to doing it in 5th.

+1. From my experiments doing super slow accel might be actually worse, since you're doing <50kph longer.
And any accel will be >10L. Any hill is often also >10L at any speed.
A reasonable pace is about 10kph per 1.5 - 2sec... about 10 -12 sec to get up to 60kph.

Also noticed that 100kph vs 110kph on highway diff is small.. like 3%.
Over 120kph, fuel economy drops big though, and no surprise since pushing 3000rpm.
Strong wind (headwind) noticed especially on highway.. ie 5L one way, 10L other way.

[kimchisoup]

I have read that if you keep the RPM as low as possible then you get better mileage. I read 1 article where the guy never had RPM above 2,000 and got around 90 MPG. My 1st 4 tanks on my new wheels were 8.4L/100km, 8.5, 8.2 and the last 8.0. I'm doing an experiment on my current tank ... I'm going to try to never have RPM above 3,000 and see what mileage I get. Max 3,000 RPM means that my top highway speed will be approx 105-110 km/h. I'll update at the end of the tank.

For fuel economy, Mazda's lack of tall gear ratios suck.

Notice that the new Altima 2013 gets like 3000rpm at 100 MPH.
If you had some way of replacing the gearbox with a six auto that allows 1800-2000rpm at 110kph, you'd probably see at least 2L better fuel economy.

Mazda is also over-eager to inject lots of fuel on low end to give peppy start. Sure, you do 0-40kph in like 3 sec, but that quick change of moment wastes gas.


Mazda with CVT would be interesting. I was not at all suprised when the new SkyActive massively improved fuel economy, mostly through changest to gearbox.

[MarkWB]

You can do 120 in a gen two with like 2000ish rpm if you don't gas it on the on ramp too much. I try to keep my rpms under 3000 (or even under 2 if possible) daily, and I see about 500 kms to the tank depending on the ratio of city to highway driving (we'll say 50/50 on a 500 km tank) and how much A/C I use.

[sweetadad]

i just did a 400KM highway run and instead of using 87 octane, I used 89 octane and got 6L/100KM. That is by far the best mileage I have ever seen. IN the past past with 87 octane, i have gotten 8~9L/100KM doing 115KMPH. So I guess I'm going to run a few tanks with 89 octane and do my regular driving and update you folks in a few weeks.

[bmxnwrx]

i need to log the mileage of the 3 cuz it seems to fluctuate quite a bit. right now its not doing so well.

[kimchisoup]

Does anyone know why the price of a diesel engine in a car would cost approx $4,000 more then a gas engine? This seems a little excessive and is not justified in my view. Thoughts on this?


Mazda may bring diesel to Canada in 2013.
Problem is always emissions and all the related requirements.
Can not simply bring over European cars here.

Diesel has approx 10% higher energy content, but because of MUCH higher compression ratio and other things, burns more efficiently.


IMHO, all of this is moot, now that Mazda is running up to 13:1 in SKYACTIV with regular 87.

----------------

Only reason why 89 Octane would help that much is if the 87 you were using had lots of ethanol (more than 10% allowed).
Recall higher Octane = more difficult to burn. Its meant primarily for high compression turbo cars to prevent pre-detination.
Theoretically, 91 or 94 should not help much if at all. Even if it did improve fuel efficiency by 2 or even crazy 5%, it would be far less than the added cost.

[kimchisoup]

i just did a 400KM highway run and instead of using 87 octane, I used 89 octane and got 6L/100KM. That is by far the best mileage I have ever seen. IN the past past with 87 octane, i have gotten 8~9L/100KM doing 115KMPH. So I guess I'm going to run a few tanks with 89 octane and do my regular driving and update you folks in a few weeks.

Which car exactly do you have.
Based on your numbers it seems you are pulling them out of the air....

ie, when I report a number: 7.48L/100km 80% hwy. 2.3L 08.
when YOU report: "8~9L/100KM doing 115KPH"
So basically nobody has any idea if its good or bad because we don't know which car, % hwy driving, and you gave a wide range of 26-30mpg.

[sweetadad]

Which car exactly do you have.
Based on your numbers it seems you are pulling them out of the air....

ie, when I report a number: 7.48L/100km 80% hwy. 2.3L 08.
when YOU report: "8~9L/100KM doing 115KPH"
So basically nobody has any idea if its good or bad because we don't know which car, % hwy driving, and you gave a wide range of 26-30mpg.

My bad...this is a 2011 GX (so 2.0L engine, auto) hatchback. I've done that highway run many times and I've always gotten something like 8L/100KM (based on fuelly). This is the first time i got a 6L (fuelly calculation and not mine)

[zoomahh]

For fuel economy, Mazda's lack of tall gear ratios suck.

Notice that the new Altima 2013 gets like 3000rpm at 100 MPH.
If you had some way of replacing the gearbox with a six auto that allows 1800-2000rpm at 110kph, you'd probably see at least 2L better fuel economy.

Mazda is also over-eager to inject lots of fuel on low end to give peppy start. Sure, you do 0-40kph in like 3 sec, but that quick change of moment wastes gas.


Mazda with CVT would be interesting. I was not at all suprised when the new SkyActive massively improved fuel economy, mostly through changest to gearbox.

ahem....
check my fuel stats....my skyactiv gets on av about 6.5L/100 km AND with their 6 speed auto, I DO in fact do about 1900-2000 rpm on 110...so it's being done as you speak...all u gotta do is check in with a few other skyactiv owners and your suspicions will be put to rest.

[sarujo]

I checked your fuelly page and would like to know how you have more than 55L fuel entries (some are over 60) when the standard fuel tank is only 55L (60L for GT with 2.5L).


ahem....
check my fuel stats....my skyactiv gets on av about 6.5L/100 km AND with their 6 speed auto, I DO in fact do about 1900-2000 rpm on 110...so it's being done as you speak...all u gotta do is check in with a few other skyactiv owners and your suspicions will be put to rest.

[bmxnwrx]

what are peoples average fuel consuimption with a 4 speed automatic 2L?

[leungly]

http://www.fuelly.com/car/mazda/3

Click on a Year and then you can see if its GT or GS models.

[DumpInfo]

Don't waste your time get a diesel. This is why I traded my mazda....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7705286508_47a312772c_b.jpg

This was my tank a couple weeks back strictly highway and still had at least 200kms till it was out. Food for thought!

[MarkWB]

Don't waste your time get a diesel. This is why I traded my mazda....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7705286508_47a312772c_b.jpg

This was my tank a couple weeks back strictly highway and still had at least 200kms till it was out. Food for thought!

:hawt

I want this fuel economy! Can't wait to see a skyactiv-d (maybe turbo?) in the Canadian market.

[Honva]

:hawt

I want this fuel economy! Can't wait to see a skyactiv-d (maybe turbo?) in the Canadian market.

Good for the environment but we don't save money. The car is more expensive and basically we just pay the gas up front. With Toronto traffic, we don't really have "highway". A start-stop type of engine could be more meaningful.

[Jackal]

Not bad for a 2010 GT.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8503/8305610722_165b1bef7c.jpg

[loosecannon]

Not bad for a 2010 GT.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8503/8305610722_165b1bef7c.jpg

In winter? That's crazy. Drove like a granny? Lol

[Jackal]

In winter? That's crazy. Drove like a granny? Lol

Actually drove it like a racecar. Average 120km/h. Who needs to get 1000 km if you go only 93km/h? Probably same mileage as mine if it was going 120. :gone

[eSS]

Not bad for a 2010 GT.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8503/8305610722_165b1bef7c.jpg

Nice, Especially for winter. Ran it completely dry?

[Jackal]

Nice, Especially for winter. Ran it completely dry?

It's great for the 2.5 L engine. Till about 3 squares left.

[eSS]

It's great for the 2.5 L engine. Till about 3 squares left.

Excellent, That's skyactiv territory. Just goes to show careful driving can pay off.

Well done

[loosecannon]

Excellent, That's skyactiv territory. Just goes to show careful driving can pay off.

Well done

120km/hr is not careful driving lol.

[asyed]

I usually average around 500-530 km before I fill the tank. Depends on my driving though, I usually drive in a somewhat fuel saving manner but not a tree hugging type :P

[eSS]

120km/hr is not careful driving lol.

lol, what i meant was he stuck to 120km/h and wasnt constantly increasing/decreasing speed resulting in poor mileage. 100-120 is my cruising speed as well

[loosecannon]

lol, what i meant was he stuck to 120km/h and wasnt constantly increasing/decreasing speed resulting in poor mileage. 100-120 is my cruising speed as well

Gotta love cruise control ;)

[Silver Streak]

Mazdas are the Zoom Zoom cars and they get that by being rev happy and more fuel thisrty than others. So don't expect great fuel mileage. To get better mileage drive conservatively below 100 kph but boring. I dsicovered on Mazda 3's 2010+ they have two scoops hidden just under the lip behind on either side of the Mazda insgnia to pull air to the intake duct. I cut out two air dams from plastic windshield washer jugs to force air up the ducts...so the faster you go more air is forced to air box for better mileage...getting 700-800km per tank in winter..GX 2L, 5sp manual. In winter cold air I partly opened air duct at joint above rad to let in about 1/4 warm air from engine to warm air mix with cold into air box. seems to work good for me so far.

[Jackal]

Gotta love cruise control ;)

Cruise control is not that fun. Didn't use it. I did drive safely along with the traffic, but mostly on the lefthand lane. But I guess cruise control could have a positive effect on fuel economy (see on topic lol).

[peterm15]

Cruise control is not that fun. Didn't use it. I did drive safely along with the traffic, but mostly on the lefthand lane. But I guess cruise control could have a positive effect on fuel economy (see on topic lol).

It's dependent but for the most part I find cruise ruins fuel Eco. Get better mileage without it.

[Karmaspeed]

Went to Montreal last sunday to visit in-laws over x-mas, filled up a pickering and cruise control for the most part @122km. Stopped at the last exit before entering quebec to fill up and I was at @425km with just under 1/2 a tank (5 hash) so I figure at this pace I would've gotten another 200km. So getting over 600km on a full tank for a speed3 is dam good.
On the way home (yesterday) drove it the way I like to and got home in 4hrs (cruising there on sunday took 5 1/2hrs), had to fill up @ trenton so @400km for tank. So Peter I think cruise control was definitely a fuel eco in my case ;-)

[eSS]

Went to Montreal last sunday to visit in-laws over x-mas, filled up a pickering and cruise control for the most part @122km. Stopped at the last exit before entering quebec to fill up and I was at @425km with just under 1/2 a tank (5 hash) so I figure at this pace I would've gotten another 200km. So getting over 600km on a full tank for a speed3 is dam good.
On the way home (yesterday) drove it the way I like to and got home in 4hrs (cruising there on sunday took 5 1/2hrs), had to fill up @ trenton so @400km for tank. So Peter I think cruise control was definitely a fuel eco in my case ;-)

That's awesome

[Jackal]

That's awesome

+1
Way to represent! Nice to see the speed hitting some big km/l numbers.

[peterm15]

. So Peter I think cruise control was definitely a fuel eco in my case ;-)

for sure. Lol.

For my daily commute up the 400. If I use cruise I burn more. I'm assuming it's because of the 400 not being to flat. The trip to Montreal is quite flat so that would make a difference I assume.

Plus. It sounds like without cruise you drive like an a-hole. Lol j/k.

[zummy]

I got gs-sky sport3 2012 now 6600km (first oil change at 5200km), and have a big consumption problem. My car used 8.2l highway (120km/h cruise flat ride 700km), and 10.8l city. I returned back to my dealership. They made a 4 days test drive just in a city (Calgary). After 88km the gas usage 11.5!!! Mazda Canada gave another test description which sad highway one shot 90km/h no bunny run, no cruise... it has 5.7l test result. Same person, same pump, same drive style... How come? We made our own test, same 36km brand new, at the same time my has 3200km, the other was sedan, but drive in a city shouldn't make 1.5l difference during same style driving. The service checked every little details, found nothing. After that I have to pay because warranty not covers to run test like that. If you have a fuel economy problem, you can get rid of it, and buy something else (Lancer...)

[Booter22]

I got gs-sky sport3 2012 now 6600km (first oil change at 5200km), and have a big consumption problem. My car used 8.2l highway (120km/h cruise flat ride 700km), and 10.8l city. I returned back to my dealership. They made a 4 days test drive just in a city (Calgary). After 88km the gas usage 11.5!!! Mazda Canada gave another test description which sad highway one shot 90km/h no bunny run, no cruise... it has 5.7l test result. Same person, same pump, same drive style... How come? We made our own test, same 36km brand new, at the same time my has 3200km, the other was sedan, but drive in a city shouldn't make 1.5l difference during same style driving. The service checked every little details, found nothing. After that I have to pay because warranty not covers to run test like that. If you have a fuel economy problem, you can get rid of it, and buy something else (Lancer...)

..not sure about the lancer comment... but anyway yes driving in the city will increase economy. that is an obvious due to the stop and go speeds so on so forth. im sure in calgary its pretty cold (-17 says the weather network) so warm up time will be much longer as well. but economy will increase as the vehicle ages which if you do take the time to read the 54 pages on this thread you will get that idea that it does happen. i didnt notice mine get better until around 24,000 km. but at speeds over 100km/h economy will increase. usualy its 1% for ever 1km/h over 100 you go. so the car will use approx 20% more fuel then at 120km/h from 100 km/h which im sure the vehicle is tested at. my car on the last tank used about 9.7L/100km and on its coldest day was -22. now at +6 to +14 the last few days it has been decent but with the coming cold temp drop to -6 im sure it will go down again.

so wait until summer or when its warmer and positive temps as thats what kills fuel economy, then add in heat up time. winter tires. short trips and the economy will go up up up.

[Elusivellama]

I got gs-sky sport3 2012 now 6600km (first oil change at 5200km), and have a big consumption problem. My car used 8.2l highway (120km/h cruise flat ride 700km), and 10.8l city. I returned back to my dealership. They made a 4 days test drive just in a city (Calgary). After 88km the gas usage 11.5!!! Mazda Canada gave another test description which sad highway one shot 90km/h no bunny run, no cruise... it has 5.7l test result. Same person, same pump, same drive style... How come? We made our own test, same 36km brand new, at the same time my has 3200km, the other was sedan, but drive in a city shouldn't make 1.5l difference during same style driving. The service checked every little details, found nothing. After that I have to pay because warranty not covers to run test like that. If you have a fuel economy problem, you can get rid of it, and buy something else (Lancer...)


1) Winter gas (with additives to keep it liquid in cold temps) sucks for mileage, doesn't burn as clean, etc.

2) Cold temperatures means that your car takes much longer to get completely warmed up.

3) Cold air is denser, more drag on your car.

4) Driving through and over snow creates more drag than if the roads were clear

5) Driving through and over snow means that you're mostly in gears 1 - 3

6) Your car is new, it's still breaking in

[greyseason]

1) Winter gas (with additives to keep it liquid in cold temps) sucks for mileage, doesn't burn as clean, etc.

2) Cold temperatures means that your car takes much longer to get completely warmed up.

3) Cold air is denser, more drag on your car.

4) Driving through and over snow creates more drag than if the roads were clear

5) Driving through and over snow means that you're mostly in gears 1 - 3

6) Your car is new, it's still breaking in

+1 good way to put it

[wobbie]

Well, I'm new here so I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but I bought an '09 GT 2 weeks ago and discovered something about this car - maybe just this one but maybe all.

If the air diverter control for the heater is in the position between the floor-panel mix and the floor - all the air comes out the floor (nothing felt on panel or defrost). If I set it to the floor position, I can feel some air coming out the defrost vent and my AC will cycle on and off. I tried to dig into the dash to get to the panel control but gave up. My thinking is that there is a switch on the defrost diverter that once it starts to open it brings on the AC - normal on most cars today (just not sure where the switch is - could be on control or on heater "module"). Anyway, for my car at least, if you set the air flow to the floor you get the AC cycling and the corresponding loss in mileage.

wobbie

[doeser]

For those of you interested in fuel economy, the following is an interesting article. No specific mention of Mazda, but it would be safe to add 20% to Mazdas estimate. For my 2012 Mazda 3 GS-Sky auto that means a reasonable target of 8.5/6 litres per 100km.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/new-cars/auto-news/reality-gap-widens-on-car-fuel-efficiency-claims-in-eu---study/article12186616/

[PatrickRodriguz]

m driving a 2013 Mazda 3 GX w/AC, automatic and 7000kms on her. I'm getting about 500kms out of a tank. I fill her full, and run her down until the last bar. I'm estimating I get 500kms based on 250kms per half tank.

Let me know what you guys are getting and what you think about my consumption!

[Booter22]

my 2010 3 2.0L 5Spd with 94 000 km and with a cold air intake gets about 550-620km per tank still. but i do about 75% highway

[Hotsky]

When I let my wife drive my car for a month this past June she was getting ~600km per 45 L, best mileage was 7.1L/100km with my '05 2L Mazda 3. Mostly highway driving tho. I never get those numbers :chuckle

[PatrickRodriguz]

my 2010 3 2.0L 5Spd with 94 000 km and with a cold air intake gets about 550-620km per tank still. but i do about 75% highway

I'm doing 75% highway too, Ryerson U and west Mississauga. I'm not heavy on the gas either so it's really bugging me!

[chao_zu55]

I'm in the same boat here
I do about 80% hwy
I commute to work on 400 everyday, about 40 each way...
I'm at 29000 km with my car with reg maintenance through the dealer.
I'm averaging 600-650 a tank an I never go over 110, I jump on the hwy and cruise.
During the last year or so the best I've done was just over 700. And it just seems the 7 disappeared. Im not sure what else I can do to I
Prove the economy but this car has been disappointed in the fuel economy department...
2012 mazda3 hatch
Sky active gs auto

[sarujo]

Impressive mileage, but unfortunately the maintenance costs (timing belt change on these must be meticulously followed and is expensive) of the TDI are high, and especially repairs.


Don't waste your time get a diesel. This is why I traded my mazda....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7705286508_47a312772c_b.jpg

This was my tank a couple weeks back strictly highway and still had at least 200kms till it was out. Food for thought!

[iiliu]

I have a 2.5L 2013 hatch. Averaging around 10.5L right now, half city driving (north york area) and half highway (north york -> mississauga on 401). What do you think? I think I may have heavy foot

[Hotsky]

^If it's a Sky that's pretty high IMO.

[greyseason]

^If it's a Sky that's pretty high IMO.

its a GT, i think its normal, but i mean if your enjoying the car

[Canadianbacon]

I have a 2.5L 2013 hatch. Averaging around 10.5L right now, half city driving (north york area) and half highway (north york -> mississauga on 401). What do you think? I think I may have heavy foot

That sounds about average im getting 11.5L 80city 20highway

[Qdriver]

Mines new 2013 gs-skyactiv. First 6000 km and servicing just complete. I'm going through over 10 city, prob 7highway. Will this go down over time? Through break-in? Any thoughts? I haven't approached Mazda yet but I'm thinking about it.

[Hotsky]

Finally figured out how to add Fuelly signature..

in this weather I'm getting just under 10L/100km tho :(

[Booter22]

Mines new 2013 gs-skyactiv. First 6000 km and servicing just complete. I'm going through over 10 city, prob 7highway. Will this go down over time? Through break-in? Any thoughts? I haven't approached Mazda yet but I'm thinking about it.

i found in my 2010 it didnt get better until 24000km and then it stayed the same. even the first two services seem to have made the difference. but not much you can do about fuel economy in winter.

[Tacambujeff]

2013 Speed3

4500 Km

Current average 8.4L/ 100Km commute about 100km 90% highway

I'm going to say that I am pleasantly surprised thus far.

[Jenuine]

Mines new 2013 gs-skyactiv. First 6000 km and servicing just complete. I'm going through over 10 city, prob 7highway. Will this go down over time? Through break-in? Any thoughts? I haven't approached Mazda yet but I'm thinking about it.

Hard to tell if it's an issue because it's winter.

But in the spring when I first got my car, even during the break in period my fuel economy was great.

It could also be your driving style :P

[Qdriver]

^
:chuckle I have often wondered about that. But I have been fairly conservative with my style unless I wanna let loose. I do have a tenancy to short shift almost all the time, at least as was the case with my older 5-speed 04. I was getting fantastic consumption out of that car, seemingly almost better at times than my new one which is the 6-speed auto. I guess that's why I'm kinda worried when it's hard not to compare the two. We did get the car in August so there was a period there in Warmer conditions with the same, (even perhaps a little higher) fuel burn.

[donerai]

i was doing about 600-700 km during the summer with synthetic but lately the figure had dropped to 400-500 with full tank (and thats still with synthetic!).
for me its 50% hwy and 50% local.
2012 mazda3 gx, almost 43k.
i'm guessing the weather has got something to do with this?
still wearing my 4 seasons tires..

[Pacman]

2013 Speed3

4500 Km

Current average 8.4L/ 100Km commute about 100km 90% highway

I'm going to say that I am pleasantly surprised thus far.

Wait until it's 90% city :(

[Tacambujeff]

Wait until it's 90% city :(

I can imagine. Oh well, the car is too much fun to care that much about the fuel economy! Lol

[DouggyD]

Ya, my 2013 GS-Sky is getting terrible mileage now. 2 tanks = 850 kms. Probably 90 % city. my trip meter is showing average fuel ecomomy right around 10L/100kms and average speed around 27km/hr... Was hoping for more from the SkyActiv engine, but with winter tires, winter gas and lots of snow, guess it could be worse...

[Jenuine]

Ya, my 2013 GS-Sky is getting terrible mileage now. 2 tanks = 850 kms. Probably 90 % city. my trip meter is showing average fuel ecomomy right around 10L/100kms and average speed around 27km/hr... Was hoping for more from the SkyActiv engine, but with winter tires, winter gas and lots of snow, guess it could be worse...

With 90% city driving in the winter, you can't expect much lol.

I've done mostly city since my last fill up and I've gotten pretty bad mileage too. Been idling in traffic a lot this week because of bad weather.

[airtrackinc]

I am Expect the acceptable fuel Economy form this car

[greyseason]

I am Expect the acceptable fuel Economy form this car

what?:facepalm

[Booter22]

so finally the fuel economy testing is going to change!

finally something to show more real world numbers

if you cant read it and want the file send me pm with an email and i will send the pdf

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[CloudPump]

^
:chuckle I have often wondered about that. But I have been fairly conservative with my style unless I wanna let loose. I do have a tenancy to short shift almost all the time, at least as was the case with my older 5-speed 04. I was getting fantastic consumption out of that car, seemingly almost better at times than my new one which is the 6-speed auto. I guess that's why I'm kinda worried when it's hard not to compare the two. We did get the car in August so there was a period there in Warmer conditions with the same, (even perhaps a little higher) fuel burn.

You use less fuel (in theory) when it's hotter out, hot air is less dense and therefore contains less oxygen, thus less fuel is needed to achieve a Stoich burn.

-Geoff

[Jsquared]

I set a new personal record in my speed3, with only city driving. I have never been able to achieve anything better than 250km on the top half of my tank in city driving only. Considering I am selling my car I have backed off the accelerator lately. I guess its paying off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/wookamachine/car_zps94406b41.png

[DaveIrwin24]

Lol with the economy map on the accessport I got 560km to a tank, all city driving, without that map I average 450km/tank lol

[pwdunmore]

I don't know guys... I just did 430km on my speed and I had 1/4 tank left. Custom tune FTW?

That 60/40 (city/highway) and I hammer it on the on ramps to merge on the highway lol :D

[DumpInfo]

I set a new personal record in my speed3, with only city driving. I have never been able to achieve anything better than 250km on the top half of my tank in city driving only.


:whoa

[kaboose]

can somebody please tell me how can i check my avg fuel economy on my 2014 mazda3 GS Sedan? i cant seem to find it

[greyseason]

Start using fuelly. The best way to track you fuel economy. Takes 2min after you fill up if you have the app

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/greyseason/3-skyactiv

[SABIO]

I'm glad the Fed's are changing the Fuel ratings. They were so far off it was laughable. Even with the sample posted, who gets 31 MPG in the city. I have always used American Fuel rating as a guide, they are far more accurate.

Look here. (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/) USA Mazda is rated @ 28 MPG for the 2.5L Auto. Closest to reality.


But I cannot complain now. My Truck uses 20L per 100KM. HAHAHAHAA Thats like 12 MPG.

[Lav]

can somebody please tell me how can i check my avg fuel economy on my 2014 mazda3 GS Sedan? i cant seem to find it

It can be found in 2 places.
1. in the dash by scrolling through your info tab.
2. in the applications folder the is a fuel monitor app that can go more in depth.

[Lav]

I have a 14 Mazda 3GS 2.0 auto and ive had an overall avg. of 7.8L/100km and its since dropped to 7.5 from the warmer weather and less idling time and I'm at 16000km so come even warmer weather i should do well at the pumps:headbang.
70/30 hwy/city. "ish" depends

[Lmmorden]

can somebody please tell me how can i check my avg fuel economy on my 2014 mazda3 GS Sedan? i cant seem to find it

You can always do it the old fashioned way.. Reset odometer on full tank and note the litres and odometer reading next time you pump full

[ValdesX]

Guys I assume I'm doing something right cause I generally get about 600km/tank and I gun it every time I get on the highway. Foot down with red line shifts. I dunno, plus I drive like a ricer when I'm in peterborough. I dunno... 2009 3i Sedan

[funkdupspeed3]

This is what i do :)


You can always do it the old fashioned way.. Reset odometer on full tank and note the litres and odometer reading next time you pump full

[greyseason]

Guys I assume I'm doing something right cause I generally get about 600km/tank and I gun it every time I get on the highway. Foot down with red line shifts. I dunno, plus I drive like a ricer when I'm in peterborough. I dunno... 2009 3i Sedan

full right to call you a ricer now

[Booter22]

Guys I assume I'm doing something right cause I generally get about 600km/tank and I gun it every time I get on the highway. Foot down with red line shifts. I dunno, plus I drive like a ricer when I'm in peterborough. I dunno... 2009 3i Sedan

how do you drive like a "ricer" turn the neon lights on and pull out the fart can exhaust? or do you mean like an idiot cutting in and out of lanes and cutting people off.. yea no one needs people that drive like that so hope its not you. but if so glad your ricer driving is in peterborough

[iiliu]

For the winter time I had 17" OEM alloy rims with Michelin X-Ice 2s, and now I have switched to 18" OEM MazdaSpeed3 alloys, and planning to burn out the stock Dunlop Sport 2050s before I get new tires. I've noticed the my fuel economy has gone from usually around 10L/100km during the winter time 40% highway 60% city (i have a 2013 2.5 GT hatch) to about 11.5L/100km (this is all city driving so far because I've only tested for one day so far). The gas mileage is unusually high - given that it no longer has winter tires on I was thinking gas mileage might go down... I get that my rims are now bigger and a bit heavier, but is it normal to make that much of a difference?

[Lmmorden]

For the winter time I had 17" OEM alloy rims with Michelin X-Ice 2s, and now I have switched to 18" OEM MazdaSpeed3 alloys, and planning to burn out the stock Dunlop Sport 2050s before I get new tires. I've noticed the my fuel economy has gone from usually around 10L/100km during the winter time 40% highway 60% city (i have a 2013 2.5 GT hatch) to about 11.5L/100km (this is all city driving so far because I've only tested for one day so far). The gas mileage is unusually high - given that it no longer has winter tires on I was thinking gas mileage might go down... I get that my rims are now bigger and a bit heavier, but is it normal to make that much of a difference?

1.5L / 100 km is not that much of a difference especially city driving.
For example: tires and rims aside -my fuel consumption is worse when I drive with my fav driving sneakers listening to high energy music - about 3L / 100km

[loki]

This winter has been around 15-16L/100kms for my speed3

[loki]

But there might (hopefully) be a few minor leaks which is making the car work harder to maintain my driving style

[iiliu]

I guess I just assumed it would be better because winter tires have come off and they're usually worse on mileage. I guess these tires are a bit stickier and rims bigger and heavier. It's actually gone down to 10.5 now after a bit of highway driving. Haha I guess I just hoped it would go down. Oh well! Thanks guys

[sarujo]

:facepalm If I got that kind of mileage I would be a :loki as well....


This winter has been around 15-16L/100kms for my speed3

[Hotsky]

My cars fuel consumptions is getting back up finally; was able to get 300km by half tank mark. Almost half city driving and winter tires too.

[ryan2.3]

I'm also getting my numbers back up. Just did a full highway drive and got 350 at the half and 605 before the light came on. also doing about 125 the whole time since Ohio and parts of Michigan posts 70mph as their speed limit

[Booter22]

sadly mine isnt really going up. mind you still have the winters on. i think my last tank i got about 350km from it.. but it did last me over 2 weeks before i filled it up. so that beats the every 4 days from before. will be interesting to see how the short drive to work gets to the car. if at all

[m_bisson]

Mine is waaay better. I set a new record this fill up. Lol

[greyseason]

Mine is going to be down, cause rims lol. I can tell they are heavier. Must look into weight reduction LOL

[iiliu]

Mine is going to be down, cause rims lol. I can tell they are heavier. Must look into weight reduction LOL

Yeah same I felt mine were heavier and there goes the fuel efficiency... lol not that it was that efficient to begin with

[greyseason]

Yeah same I felt mine were heavier and there goes the fuel efficiency... lol not that it was that efficient to begin with

mines pretty fuel Effiicient. Check out my fuelly
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/greyseason/3-skyactiv

Ill report back at the end of this take of gas on how much worse it is

[iiliu]

mines pretty fuel Effiicient. Check out my fuelly
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/greyseason/3-skyactiv

Ill report back at the end of this take of gas on how much worse it is

I have the GT with no Skyactiv. At times I wish I had gone with Skyactiv. Mines at 10.5 with the new rims + tires... 70% city 30% highway

[greyseason]

I have the GT with no Skyactiv. At times I wish I had gone with Skyactiv. Mines at 10.5 with the new rims + tires... 70% city 30% highway

Oh I thought you had a sky. Well,you get all the goodies lol

[pwdunmore]

My 2012 MS3 L/100km's keeps going down :D I was at 11.8 this winter and now I'm at 9.8 with my summer set-up just going on yesterday. That is about 50/50 City/Highway.

Edit: Forgot to mention that it is with "some" aggressive driving and I cruise around 120 on the highway when traffic permits.

[miako]

I'm down to 12L/100km from 13.8. 95% city driving and the remainder 5% doing wot logs on highways...

[416GXM3]

My last recorded fill up saw my mileage 9.54l/100 previous week i was at 10.54/100

[CarLadyLisa]

I'm curious to know the approximate mileage we all get on a tank. Not just l/100kms I ususally track mine with my trip meter when I fill up.

Example:
2012 Mazda3Sport GS-Sky 2.0L Manual = 600 day to day | 750 long trips (old car) 55L Tank
2010 Mazda3 GX 2.0L Auto = 400 day to day | No trips yet (current beater) 55L Tank
1993 Miata 1.6L Manual = 300 day to day | 350 long trips (summer) uh...35L tank?

I really miss my Skyactiv engine. This car seems so pooptacular on gas in comparison. Is there some secret way to improve the fuel consumption?

[ryan2.3]

with my 04 2.3, half and half city/hwy, i do about 550 before the light goes on. when the light comes on i usually have about 10L left. If it was all highway, 600-650km easy
with my 11 2.0 (non-skyactiv), half and half city/hwy, i do about 600 before the light goes on. i think also 10-15L left. if it was all highway, 650-700

[CloudPump]

I'm curious to know the approximate mileage we all get on a tank. Not just l/100kms I ususally track mine with my trip meter when I fill up.

Example:
2012 Mazda3Sport GS-Sky 2.0L Manual = 600 day to day | 750 long trips (old car) 55L Tank
2010 Mazda3 GX 2.0L Auto = 400 day to day | No trips yet (current beater) 55L Tank
1993 Miata 1.6L Manual = 300 day to day | 350 long trips (summer) uh...35L tank?

I really miss my Skyactiv engine. This car seems so pooptacular on gas in comparison. Is there some secret way to improve the fuel consumption?

2010 Speed3 - ~500 day to day | ~680 long trips (daily driver) 55L tank
1992 FD3S - ~250 day to day | ~400 long trips (once in a while car) 76L tank
(yes, the FD is the absolute worst on gas)

-Geoff

[gta_driver]

All highway driving - 700+ kms (2014 Mazda3 GS, 6-speed manual - 50L tank).
Day to day, mixed - 500 - 550 kms
Strictly city, short trips - 450

[ken6214]

I always try and get as many km's out of that first tick on the gauge, so far my best 124km. 2011 mazda3 2.5L 6-speed manual.

[jay93]

2006. 2.slow when the light turns on I'm at about 430km......should be more

[Milan96]

2010 GS 2.5L Automatic, in the city for school for about 90% of my driving is city. Usually get about 400-430km per tank if I really run it dry... Fuel economy honestly is a real let down with the 2.5L, especially in the city. On pure highway, the best I got out of a tank was about 550km

[FD22]

......should be more

I feel you. I feel like mine gets horrible mileage. 100% highway is decent. But any sort of (conservative) city driving, and I get worse mileage than most Speeds :loki

[mazdasport]

Don't feel bad my truck has a 135 L tank and I'm lucky if I get more then 550 all highway and its a 2015

[Hotsky]

Im still getting decent mileage, last two tanks I was ~350km at half hank mark.

[Jackal]

Don't feel bad my truck has a 135 L tank and I'm lucky if I get more then 550 all highway and its a 2015

Wow. That's a real gas guzzler. Is it a V6 or V8?

[mazdasport]

Wow. That's a real gas guzzler. Is it a V6 or V8?

6.2 gas V8 with one size over OEM tire and weights in at just shy of 10000 pound with all my service equipment, takes a whole tank of fuel to drive from Belleville to Brampton and back at 120 kph

[Jackal]

6.2 gas V8 with one size over OEM tire and weights in at just shy of 10000 pound with all my service equipment, takes a whole tank of fuel to drive from Belleville to Brampton and back at 120 kph

Will you go for the 3.5 ecoboost next to save on fuel?

[mazdasport]

It's a fleet truck so really I don't care but with the amount of weight I carry the ecoboost would be almost as bad as it would always be in boost just to keep me rolling lol I got a call the other day apparently we are downsizing to f150s when we reorder our trucks lol

[Hyperion]

6.2 gas V8 with one size over OEM tire and weights in at just shy of 10000 pound with all my service equipment, takes a whole tank of fuel to drive from Belleville to Brampton and back at 120 kph
Protip, dropping to 100 will save you a shitton on gas.

[mazdasport]

Protip, dropping to 100 will save you a shitton on gas.

Ya don't see that happening as I said fleet truck so time is money, just went to Sudbury and back averaged 22L per 100 not to bad

[Hyperion]

True.

[Kiewan]

2008 2.0L, 55L tank? - From fillup to gas light, 450ish km all city driving. Longer highway trips -500ish km/tank.

[ryan2.3]

Ya don't see that happening as I said fleet truck so time is money, just went to Sudbury and back averaged 22L per 100 not to bad

thank god for cylinder shut off. My Sierra has the 5.3 Ecotec and i'll do about 10-12L/100km when i cruise to toronto from detroit. at a 98L tank, i get pretty far.

[jay93]

thank god for cylinder shut off. My Sierra has the 5.3 Ecotec and i'll do about 10-12L/100km when i cruise to toronto from detroit. at a 98L tank, i get pretty far.
Wow, 10-12 is pretty good! My in law has a 2012 f150 Eco boost, 120L tank. He averages from 12-15L per 100

[ryan2.3]

my dad has a 2015 F150, the NA V6. i think he's doing about the same as your in-laws. the switching between V8 and V4 for me is a little sensitive, so it took some time to figure out the best strategy for keeping in V4 for as long as i could. Be nice if there was a switch just to force it to stay in V4. I'm never towing, and rarely loading it up with stuff (the occasional lumber run or furniture pickup), so it'd be handy if it could just stay in 4 cylinder.

[soccerboy1491]

2005 2.3L 55L tank average 450 day to day & best I ever got was 601km

[iAaronx]

I find that for my 2010 2.0 with 194000kms on it, i still feel that 420kms per tank at the most is offly low considering i drive from mississauga to vaughan mills area mo -fri at 4 in the morning.

[Raxor]

2010 2.5L between 380-400kms a tank

[Canadianbacon]

2010 2.5L between 380-400kms a tank
Same! I might try uploading a different tune map to vvti I'm using a ignition timing one currently, i always drive pretty hard no granny shifts. In summer I get 400-440km

[Raxor]

Same! I might try uploading a different tune map to vvti I'm using a ignition timing one currently, i always drive pretty hard no granny shifts. In summer I get 400-440km

380-400 is my summer average. Winter usually around 340-360. Also grats on 1k posts!

[frankjames]

Summer i get around 600 to 620km, winters im getting around 500 to 520km - 2013 GX Sport Hatchback Skyactive

[CarLadyLisa]

I pushed it this time and got like 410 when I had zero bars left. Thank god it was only $40 to fill 49 litres.

I'm going to try and be good for a while and drive like an old lady. See if that helps at all. I feel the same. 400 is way to low for a car this size. But then again its $15 less to fill than my old suv that got 400 a tank.

[Kiewan]

2008 2.0L, 55L tank? - From fillup to gas light, 450ish km all city driving. Longer highway trips -500ish km/tank.

426kms from fillup to gas light.
Mostly city driving + mixed highway. Spirited driving & winter gas + occasional 5min idling when picking people up. Lots of variables but I'll keep an eye on it over the next few fillups. Not too bad.

[Flagrum_3]

426kms from fillup to gas light.
Mostly city driving + mixed highway. Spirited driving & winter gas + occasional 5min idling when picking people up. Lots of variables but I'll keep an eye on it over the next few fillups. Not too bad.

I'm about the same 400-420km but from 1/4 tank fill. I never let it go below 1/4 tank and 2-3 minute warm ups in this cold.


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[dentinger]

Wow, 10-12 is pretty good! My in law has a 2012 f150 Eco boost, 120L tank. He averages from 12-15L per 100

i average 24L/100kms in my Ram hah, those 35's kill it

[m_bisson]

My truck is brutal in the winter. My last tank was like 18l/100km.

[ryan2.3]

yesterday on my drive back from toronto to michigan i had to go to 4wd (i almost always keep it rwd) and i dropped to 13.2L.

the last few times i came i've started to fill up a couple 20L jerry cans at the border before coming into canada. Gas is currently 1.51/gal (40cents/L). This way i make sure i can definitely get back to the US before needing to pay over double for gas

[Kiewan]

yesterday on my drive back from toronto to michigan i had to go to 4wd (i almost always keep it rwd) and i dropped to 13.2L.

the last few times i came i've started to fill up a couple 20L jerry cans at the border before coming into canada. Gas is currently 1.51/gal (40cents/L). This way i make sure i can definitely get back to the US before needing to pay over double for gas

Will CBSA be angry if I try to drive into Canada with lots of Filled Jerry cans when returning from the US? Are there any restrictions coming back to Canada?

[loki]

Will CBSA be angry if I try to drive into Canada with lots of Filled Jerry cans when returning from the US? Are there any restrictions coming back to Canada?

they might think you are a terrorist

you're also not saving thaaat much money, don't be cheap

[ryan2.3]

edit
what teh shit, was supposed to edit, not double post

[ryan2.3]

Will CBSA be angry if I try to drive into Canada with lots of Filled Jerry cans when returning from the US? Are there any restrictions coming back to Canada?

you should be fine. My parents always bring their jerry cans when they visit us. I'm surprised they haven't bought even more cans. They only bring 2 or 3 large ones at a time.


they might think you are a terrorist

you're also not saving thaaat much money, don't be cheap

if you're already in the US it can save you a good chunk, especially if you've got large vehicles

[loki]

you should be fine. My parents always bring their jerry cans when they visit us. I'm surprised they haven't bought even more cans. They only bring 2 or 3 large ones at a time.



if you're already in the US it can save you a good chunk, especially if you've got large vehicles

Say you had a vehicle with a 120L tank, and you filled 6 - 20L Jerry cans, you'd save maybe 50 bucks

Lot of effort for a short term gain. You're also now driving around with 120L of fuel inside the vehicle with you

But this is just my opinion.

I know you go back and forth often and IMO that is worth cutting down any costs associated with your regular commute, so for your case it does make a lot of sense

[m_bisson]

Imagine the Hollywood style explosion that would happen if you crash!

[oriley]

Down to about 680-700 in the winter.

Summertime gives me 780-830 km per tank. Always fill the tank to the brim.
Car is 2010 GX Hatch 2.0 5-sp.

The mileage surprised me. I swapped this car with my wife. She now drives the 2012 Golf TDI 6-sp. I've had 1200km in the summer, but around 980 in the winter. My fuelly shows 156,000 km with 159 fill ups. That's basically 1000km average for the Golf.

[jeff7670]

99% highway driving 115 the entire way I average 7.6 over 400 000kms between two first gen Mazda gt's with the 2.3L 5speed. A yearly average between winter with winter tires, hot days cranking the AC, and everything in between. Not amazing but pretty good IMO.

[2012mazda3hatch]

So I drive mainly all paved country roads, 80km zones. I have a 2012 mz3 sport GS Sky 2.0. I only use the 91+ octane. I notice a huge difference when I don't use it. With the 91 gas I can hit 680kms on a tank, but when I use the 87 I get about 550kms. According to my gas cubby app I average 6.9 litres/100kms.

[m_bisson]

So I drive mainly all paved country roads, 80km zones. I have a 2012 mz3 sport GS Sky 2.0. I only use the 91+ octane. I notice a huge difference when I don't use it. With the 91 gas I can hit 680kms on a tank, but when I use the 87 I get about 550kms. According to my gas cubby app I average 6.9 litres/100kms.

That's not how gas works. Sadly, it's all in your head.

The octane rating is actually an "anti-knock index" number. It has to do with how well a gas resists knocking, which is basically premature ignition due to high compression. That's why sports cars with turbo chargers, or some larger engines, need higher octane fuel. The pressure inside the combustion chamber is much higher, and 87 would ignite prematurely rather than with the spark plug.

You don't get more "octane" in 91 vs 87. The amount of energy produced per litre of fuel is actually the same.

The only possible explanation is if you're buying ethanol-free 91, and your 87 has ethanol, then you might see more mileage. Save some money and just use 87.

[Default User]

That's not how gas works. Sadly, it's all in your head.

The octane rating is actually an "anti-knock index" number. It has to do with how well a gas resists knocking, which is basically premature ignition due to high compression. That's why sports cars with turbo chargers, or some larger engines, need higher octane fuel. The pressure inside the combustion chamber is much higher, and 87 would ignite prematurely rather than with the spark plug.

You don't get more "octane" in 91 vs 87. The amount of energy produced per litre of fuel is actually the same.

The only possible explanation is if you're buying ethanol-free 91, and your 87 has ethanol, then you might see more mileage. Save some money and just use 87.


But he's still saving money in the long run - even by paying the $0.20 premium per L

He's not gaining power - but he's gaining the fuel economy savings

[m_bisson]

But he's still saving money in the long run - even by paying the $0.20 premium per L

He's not gaining power - but he's gaining the fuel economy savings

No, it isn't possible. The only way he'll get more mileage is if it's ethanol free. In kitchener, at least, I don't know of any gas stations that have ethanol free gas.

[geobur]

ok so I am awful at using the search tool, so I will pose a question in this thread rather than open a new one.

Back in the beginning of June I bought a 2013 Skyactiv Mazda3 GS. I am using it primarily to drive for uber while I am in school. What sorts of things other than more efficient driving (something I am working on after having a heavy foot in my 2008 GT) can I do to improve my mileage?
My mechanic brother in law mentioned he got better gas mileage in his Ford F150 buy installing a cold air intake, and diamond tip sparkplugs.

Would either of these options be worth my time or money? And is there any other mods or things I can do to squeeze out the most KM to a tank?

[Booter22]

ok so I am awful at using the search tool, so I will pose a question in this thread rather than open a new one.

Back in the beginning of June I bought a 2013 Skyactiv Mazda3 GS. I am using it primarily to drive for uber while I am in school. What sorts of things other than more efficient driving (something I am working on after having a heavy foot in my 2008 GT) can I do to improve my mileage?
My mechanic brother in law mentioned he got better gas mileage in his Ford F150 buy installing a cold air intake, and diamond tip sparkplugs.

Would either of these options be worth my time or money? And is there any other mods or things I can do to squeeze out the most KM to a tank?

first ive ever heard an intake will get better fuel economy. 99% of the time is less. you already have ngk iridium plugs so you cant really put in better. i would make sure your intake air filter is clean. and keep your cars service up to date my 2010 averages around 8.0L/100KM and from fuelly 2012 -2015 are getting 7.2 - 7.7L/100KM so if thats what your around then your in the ball park. but check out that site if you dont track your fuel economy.

[geobur]

first ive ever heard an intake will get better fuel economy. 99% of the time is less. you already have ngk iridium plugs so you cant really put in better. i would make sure your intake air filter is clean. and keep your cars service up to date my 2010 averages around 8.0L/100KM and from fuelly 2012 -2015 are getting 7.2 - 7.7L/100KM so if thats what your around then your in the ball park. but check out that site if you dont track your fuel economy.So I'm averaging around 9.6 according to the in car trip calculator so obviously I can be doing a lot better.

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[gta_driver]

2014 Mazda3 GS manual with 2.0L SkyActiv

Recently drove to/from FLorida. Average highway fuel economy hovered around 6 L / 100 km but that's with varying speeds (no cruise control) about 110-130 km/h.

Drove back where I was lighter on the gas pedal and got 5.2 L / 100 km - got 770 kms on one tank of fuel, filled up nearly 40 L.

[Flagrum_3]

ok so I am awful at using the search tool, so I will pose a question in this thread rather than open a new one.

Back in the beginning of June I bought a 2013 Skyactiv Mazda3 GS. I am using it primarily to drive for uber while I am in school. What sorts of things other than more efficient driving (something I am working on after having a heavy foot in my 2008 GT) can I do to improve my mileage?
My mechanic brother in law mentioned he got better gas mileage in his Ford F150 buy installing a cold air intake, and diamond tip sparkplugs.

Would either of these options be worth my time or money? And is there any other mods or things I can do to squeeze out the most KM to a tank?

There's not much you can do, I'd suggest pumping an extra couple pounds of air in the tires. Keep a clean air filter. Make sure your not carrying any extra unnecessary weight in the car and finally don't fill the tank right up. Every gallon of gas weights around 8 pounds.


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[geobur]

There's not much you can do, I'd suggest pumping an extra couple pounds of air in the tires. Keep a clean air filter. Make sure your not carrying any extra unnecessary weight in the car and finally don't fill the tank right up. Every gallon of gas weights around 8 pounds.


_3Ya keeping the tires a little fuller is something I just started doing this morning actually. And I totally didn't even think about the fuel/weight aspect I normally try to squeeze in as much as possible so I can get a longer day of driving in. I guess in the end I've been doing the opposite. Thanks for the tips.

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[sarujo]

Yes to the air filter, less weight, keeping car maintained, synthetic fluids etc but how you drive is key. Coast and hypermile when you can - look ahead and plan the lights. Constant stops and starts drink more fuel and especially idling. Plan routes and avoid short trips, especially in the winter - engine is most efficient when at operating temps. Driving slower on the highway is also a good way as well - ie 95 to 100

If you really want to be anal...make sure none of your brakes are dragging and keep alignment within spec. And finally, choice of tires will affect mileage as well...all those Prius owners are sporting the lowest rolling resistant tires - no oversizing and crazy tires ;)

[geobur]

Yes to the air filter, less weight, keeping car maintained, synthetic fluids etc but how you drive is key. Coast and hypermile when you can - look ahead and plan the lights. Constant stops and starts drink more fuel and especially idling. Plan routes and avoid short trips, especially in the winter - engine is most efficient when at operating temps. Driving slower on the highway is also a good way as well - ie 95 to 100

If you really want to be anal...make sure none of your brakes are dragging and keep alignment within spec. And finally, choice of tires will affect mileage as well..

Now I've heard the term hypermiling but what exactly is it?

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[m_bisson]

Doing everything possible to get better mileage. No air conditioning, windows rolled up, etc... Stupid nonsense that is beyond the realm of practicality.

[geobur]

Doing everything possible to get better mileage. No air conditioning, windows rolled up, etc... Stupid nonsense that is beyond the realm of practicality.Ah ok was wondering about that my girlfriend mentioned Mythbusters did an episode on hypermiling and like they folded in their mirrors (or took them off) taped over any cracks in doors and whatever and it only saved them about a quarter of a tank which is decent but considering the lengths they went to not really worth the trouble.

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[Booter22]

So I'm averaging around 9.6 according to the in car trip calculator so obviously I can be doing a lot better.

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so try fuelly. i never find the cars "calculator" is that correct fuelly measures the km driven against the gas used from the fill up prior so you know exactly what you got.

[2012mazda3hatch]

We need an insurance mega thread.

I agree... my insurance just went up 200$ a year by moving from Guelph to Sudbury to school. Seems weird to me

[sarujo]

This thread is about fuel economy and now talking about insurance?? Can we please keep discussions in the right place?
S.F.W. can you clean this up?

[S.F.W.]

This thread is about fuel economy and now talking about insurance?? Can we please keep discussions in the right place?
@S.F.W. (http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/member.php?u=2131) can you clean this up?

done

[Jackal]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200103/278748d5991c2bce4a154f7d3023569f.jpg
Drove to Ottawa from Toronto. Still had 4 squares left. My SUV can’t do that. 2010 GT still runs like new.


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[Booter22]

yep they do still get decent fuel economy i have no complaints about my 2010 2.0L