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WTF....people have no common courtesy anymore. Going in to get a morning coffee (which I rarely do anyways), this uptight looking girl zooms in before me, opens the door, clearly sees me behind her and doesn't hold it. On the way out, some dude does the same thing. People are seriously messed up, no wonder people get mugged or attacked in the city and nobody comes forward or even helps out, everyone seems to be just looking out for themselves.
End rant....... :flaming
Ha youre absolutely right, i find it so funny how when I hold a door for someone or do anything that shows common courtesy they seem to give me a look like why are doing this? I was always raised to show courtesy and hold doors for people and be polite, its just common for me now, but people seem to wonder what your angle is when doing it, Its funny some of the looks you get haha
ugh yeah people in TO are especially horrible for that kind of thing. I was really glad to move out of the city after dealing with that sort of behavior on the TTC every day.
People would literally squeeze SIDEWAYS through a closing door, just so they wouldn't have to hold it open. WTF!!! lol, it takes LESS effort to just kick the door open behind you with your foot...
Don't let it ruin your day. She's obviously a miserable bitch who isn't getting much out of life. lol :chuckle
Speaking of TTC...my backpack sorta bumped a guy who was standing behind me, and I felt and looked back and he sorta bumped it back on purpose. Luckily I wasn't in "money" mayweather type of mood otherwise I woulda knocked that bald business dude out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mazdabetty
when I see these rants coming up more and more...and myself getting stuck in traffic everyday, cursing at every other commuter as if they're in my way, I note these:
1. There's something wrong with the world...just can't quite put a finger on it yet.
2. Can I have a car mounted machine gun pod?
3. I need a effing vacation.
heh seriously eh bman? Gotta love the TTC to get to school at rush hour :whoaQuote:
Originally Posted by bman13
It was crowded one time and I took my backpack OFF so that I gave the person behind me some room and people see this and begin to fill that tiny gap by pushing me into the pole and stealing the pole! lol
Ok lets see if I can help you out with any of these:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fobio
1. What's wrong with the world, there's a short answer and an extremely long answer. The short answer is credit, credit is what is wrong with the world. For the long answer it'd better be over a beer an chicken wings because my keyboard would probably fail before I could type out the answer.
2. Technically (no reason from a technological standpoint) there is absolutely no reason why you can not have one mounted on your car, legally that is a different story. The closest is in south Africa, there are a few car mod companies that have some pretty effective anti car jacking devices will post link soon
3. lol who doesn't but maybe we can try to get a sponsor on here that works for a travel agency? flight centre, or travelocity or something!
OHHHHH I HATED IT when people used to steal my pole :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tweak_s
lol omg I could go in so many un healthy directions with this quote!:chuckleQuote:
Originally Posted by mazdabetty
hahaha whoops.....
I didn't take my backpack off cause I also had my laptop bag on my shoulder and was enjoying the tunes on my ipod and was comfortable lol...in the morning, little things bother me but yeah that, he was luckily I was more focused on getting to class asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by tweak_s
I believe a "that's what she said" goes here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mazdabetty
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Originally Posted by froggy
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Originally Posted by bman13
Not just that, there are more, many more zingers that I could have gone with, but out of respect for our fellow member I will refrain from using them here (plus the suspense and the imagination of what I could be thinking is even more fun)
Toronto isn't bad, just cuz somone doesn't hold a door open for you is no reason to fly off the handle. ppl shouldn't get so upset over such small things. ive been to all towns around toronto and its the same if not worse. is it that hard to open a door yourself? these days ppl just look for reasons to get mad, over nothing.
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Originally Posted by bman13
ahah no man, i didn't mean it like that. I keep mine on when i can too haha.
and LOL @ betty's comment :P
14 Pedestrian deaths this year... That should answer your question... People seem to not care, and thats why the world is currently going crazy.
Even Christmas not a lot of people doing good deeds.
I think another 40 day 40 night flood is going to happen in several years..
Im with you man... People these days are selfish and inconsiderate.
Not entirely true, people have always had a tendency to be selfish and inconsiderate, the thing is that in the past (not even that long ago) there was a certain amount of interdependancy that you had to have just to survive. What I mean is that with technology the way it is, and in the socialist paradise that is canada, I don't have to be nice or get along with people to survive. The government will, give me a place to live, the food bank will give me food, salvation army/goodwill will give me clothes. I want something I go online and order it, I don't have to talk to/ interact with another person therefore my social graces start to deteriorate, if I ever had any to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by -RJ3-
100 years ago if people were to be as self centred and inconsiderate as they behaved now unless you were wealthy you couldn't get away with it. Firstly you wouldn't have had a union that would have protected you when your lazy ass fell asleep on the job. So you get fired, you have no job, there's no such thing as social assistance, there's no food bank, there's no salvation army. If you don't get back up on your feet yourself you die. So back then it was in your best interest to be polite, to be considerate because if you got the reputation of being an:AH then cut off from the rest of society you'd be done, unless of course you were rich in that case, then like now money talks
1. I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fobio
2. I wish I had a battering ram on the front of my car.
3. I need to win the lotto.
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Originally Posted by mazdabetty
u gotta work it!
That's not really the point. It's the fact that you used to have people looking out for others or just generally being kind. Is it hard to open a door yourself? No. Is it hard that if you open the door and see someone else only a few feet away, to stay there a couple extra seconds to hold it open for them? IE being nice? No. But people don't do this anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob23
I used to work downtown and took the GO train home at night. At my stop, everyone is in a hurry to leave since they don't want to wait in the car to get where they are going...which is understandable. It used to be "common courtesy" to at least push the door open all the way and keep your hand there as you walked by to keep the door open longer so everyone could keep walking. If there was no one there, door closes and no big loss. If someone was there, it means that no one has to take those extra seconds to stop and push the door open. It's not really NEEDED but it was the nice thing to do. Now? No one does that. You do that and the next person will just walk through without even touching the door.
Another example. At my old house, we used to have neighbors that would look out for each other. When we heard a car accident one day, everyone rushed out to make sure the people were alright and called for help. At this new place, in similar situations only a couple years later. No one helps. Only we called for help when someone had a minor accident, no one came out to look. We even get people calling the town when a person is parked even 1 min over the 3 hour limit.
It's really a shame that this is where the world is going. Where everyone is so concerned with themselves and not willing to help out others...even if it's just something minor as holding a door open to be kind.
Attitude like this is the reason this city is turning into a shitty place to live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob23
I have a lot of patience and am very forgiving... Always have an always will, so a incident described in the OP would not get me upset. It's common courtesy, nothing more, nothing less. If people lose the ability to be courteous to other people, well... don't even want to think of what kind of city/world this would be.
I once held the door for an older lady... She looked at me and said "I see Chivalry is not dead". It's been more then 5 years since then and every time some body doesn't return the favor, or say a "thank you" after i hold the door, i remind myself of that old lady.
I hate nothing more than when i hold a door open for someone and they don't say thank you or even acknowledge me. In which case I always follow through with a loud "YOU'RE WELCOME!" Just so they and everyone around knows they're being a dick.
Oh...and i get pissed when someone doesn't hold the door for me...especially when they can see my hands are obviously full.
i'd purposely close the door on you :chuckleQuote:
Originally Posted by Lummix
no buddy i never said i wouldn't hold a door open for somone, i always do when i can, what im saying is just cuz somone doesn't hold a door open doesn't make it right to get mad over it, if i held a door open for somone while i was walking into a store and then on my way out somone let it shut on me i wouldn't care, im not gonna cry and complain over somthing so small. you shouldn't expect somone to do somthing for you, if they do then thats nice if they don't doesn't make them an *******. makes you an ******* for getting mad over such a small thing. ill admit there are asshats all over the place but i don't let them bother me. specially over somthing like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ex-Rolla
you tell em...I tend to say "thanks or thank you" unless I got my ipod on and/or in lala land...if they have their ipod on, they wont even hear you :chuckleQuote:
Originally Posted by Lummix
oh you're one of those special people completely oblivious to their surroundings hmm?Quote:
Originally Posted by bman13
If it was that crowded in the subway, it would be courteous to take off your backpack otherwise don't be too surprised in being treated in the same manner.
here's mine
seeing how i work face to face with customers here is an interesting coversation..take it however you want lol
customer: Hello Phil how are you?
Me: I'm good how are you?
Customer: im great thanks..hows life?
Me: its good!
Customer: Better than being in jail right?
Me: :whoa
the best are the people that take up 3 seats because they put their grocery bags on the seats. err... put that ish on the floor yo.
I should just go and rip holes in their grocery bags.
that's straight up messed. I'd escort them out of the store.
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Originally Posted by phil05gx
Your problem is you see me getting mad because someone didn't hold open a door. That is not it, its the common courtesy factor that I eluded to about the muggings, attacks, hit pedestrians, etc that comes from the lack of caring about anyone else. If you cared about other peoples well being in life you would go out of your way to do the simple things like holding open doors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob23
When that 15 year old girl in Cali was being gang raped, was it so hard for one of the MANY witnesses to call the police? Should you have told her "sorry, was it so hard for you to call the police yourself?" Again, its not the act of not holding doors that made me "fly off the handle", its the lack of care for human life that made me upset.
Hopefully you see the point.....if not that is cool, there are always going to be people that contribute to society, and well.......
haha are you kidding me? that is completly irrelivant. i said you shouldn't get so mad over the little things and you start comparing it to some girl getting rapped, i wouldn't consider that a little thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoostieMonster
just because somone doensn't hold a door open for you that means they have no care for human life? thats rediculous. contributing to society includes not flipping out every time somone crosses your path.
Rob, I disagree... I think people should return the favor at all opportunities. If I didn't see a person was behind me when I walked through the door without holding it for them, I'll even go as far as apologizing...
Again, it doesn't piss me off or anything, but it IS common courtesy, and I think we should all practice it at all times. :)
Toronto isn't as bad as it is in a lot of other cities around the world. There are still plenty of people who take the courtesy to hold the door for others etc. Sometimes, like all the time (maybe because media made our society think this way), one or two negative occurances make you only think of the negative. The positive occurances are often overlooked. I've never seen someone put a thread on here thanking someone for holding the door for them lol
But, TTC is pretty shit. Thats why I take the GO Train to work and never would consider TTC unless I am forced to.
I beg to differ a bit on the bolded part - I've moved out of TO, to Ajax, and I do have to say, generally in public areas, say a store/Timmy's etc, people are, I find, more polite. They do hold the doors open, say "have a nice day", thank you and such. But then again, we all speak from our experiences...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob23
That being said, the one difference I noticed is in my neighbourhood - in so much as everyone is nice, but personal agendas run a lot higher, everyone (myself included) gets home from work and gets into their house and closed doors - not as much friendly talking over the fence or 'watching' out for one another sincerely (I personally feel that the only reason my neighbours watch my house is to see what I'm up to - and in friendly discussions, it's been confirmed).
I think perhaps one of the primary drivers to this (and commented by others) is we are too busy - whether it's work/hobbies/etc - the combination makes for this rush rush rush/keeping up with the Jones/etc attitude, which in the end starts to wear at you and in the end, you end up effectively being rude and only think of yourself.
Just my thoughts/rant...
JMAK
It wasnt that crowded...thats the point. Nice try though...I'm probably too courteous compared to most people to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirWanker
Also, I don't think most people would be stupid enough to do what he did cause thats like Steve Nash picking a fight with Shaq....it doesnt make sense but again, thats not the point....point is, an accidental bump due to the train rocking back and forth does not warrant him to push back.
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That is beyond messed...Quote:
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im not at all disagreeing with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ex-Rolla
Again....I thought I was clear when I said it wasn't the "not holding doors" thing that got me upset, it was the lack of care for other people. Bringing up the Cali story was 100% relavent in that people just don't care about others and is the reason why nobody helped out that poor girl. So no, i'm not kidding you, care a little more about people and you wouldn't sound like a 'wad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob23
For the record....YES YES YES not holding doors for people means they have no care for other people. If you think only calling for help when someone is dying next to you means you're a good person you're messed up.....it starts with the little things......
The #1 problem I have with holding doors.
I will walk through, hold it for my g/f and I will hold it for other people comming through if they're close. But when there is a shitload of other people after us, they treat you/me as a doorman and just keep rushing through. If they were decent they would hold the door for the next person after them. A door holding rotation.
Also no one waves a thank you anymore when you let them into traffic. I gave up and stopped letting people in.
WTF, id start ripping that guy right at the spot!
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